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DevonRex

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43. Isn't it beautiful? We know this is where it's going and we'll get to see it in our lifetime.
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:24 PM
May 2012

The fact that DOMA strikes down the full faith and credit clause, so that it cannot be used to establish the validity of an LGBT marriage is absolutely an affront. Because FFAC is exactly what has ALWAYS been used to make marriages valid from one state to another historically in the United States, since the very beginning of our nation. It is gratuitous on its face.

And I'll tell you what. It's harmful to more than just the married couple. Say they've been married 10 years and have children. Theyve been transferred to another state since their marriage. One is killed in an accident. The surviving spouse normally would have inheritance rights, custody rights, etc. But their new state does not have to honor ANY of that, since the basis of inheritance and custody is the marriage itself which the new state does not consider to be legal. So the surviving spouse and the children are all hurt. As are the grandparents, potentially. If that couple did not have every little detail sewn up, carved in fucking stone, all could be lost.

And, omg, would some states even want to go after the adoptions? Would they try to say that the surviving spouse wasn't a legal adoptive parent? If they have a law on the books saying LGBTs cannot adopt, what would they do upon learning of the death of one and the other going to court to try to get simple property rights? Try to take away the adopted children? Who would put it past them? I would not. If they're saying they don't have to abide by the FFAC in one area, why would they have to abide by it in another area related to marriage and family?

I'll stop now. Sorry to carry on so, but it just snowballs when you think of just how far they could take this.

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Apologies for the source [View all] morningfog May 2012 OP
Haters gonna hate Capt. Obvious May 2012 #1
+1 n/t 11 Bravo May 2012 #4
I don't know about this author, but I am no hater. morningfog May 2012 #9
Yes, they are...nt SidDithers May 2012 #21
Gay Marriage Moves Closer to Supreme Court Tx4obama May 2012 #2
It seem like every poster in this threads disagrees with Obama. morningfog May 2012 #6
Federal Powers are Enumerated. Period. DevonRex May 2012 #12
And Obama could order the DOJ to join challenges to Prop 8 and others. morningfog May 2012 #19
OR you can do what he did, which is provide the BASIS for its overturning. DevonRex May 2012 #22
Wait a minute SunsetDreams May 2012 #27
The Supreme Court can overrule the state's laws. Tx4obama May 2012 #14
Exactly, and he could lend the DOJ and the federal resources and support to challenging the laws. morningfog May 2012 #20
Obama and his justice dept provided the fucking BASIS for overturning Prop 8. DevonRex May 2012 #23
. SunsetDreams May 2012 #28
Complete mis-characterization and wrong conclusions. DevonRex May 2012 #3
Section 3 of DOMA is enforced, just not defended. morningfog May 2012 #7
DOMA is headed to the Supreme Court. n/t Tx4obama May 2012 #16
All steps in the right direction bhikkhu May 2012 #5
maybe so ibegurpard May 2012 #8
Indeed. I think this marks an end to a POTUS ever being against marriage equality. morningfog May 2012 #11
First of all ProSense May 2012 #10
Character assassination notwithstanding, he makes good points. morningfog May 2012 #13
No he doesn't. n/t ProSense May 2012 #15
Fuck no he does NOT. He's a RW hater who does NOT want to overturn DOMA. nt DevonRex May 2012 #18
To you maybe. Ikonoklast May 2012 #24
I don't take my points from a right wing hack or blog SunsetDreams May 2012 #26
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!1 DevonRex May 2012 #17
bitch if he does, bitch if he doesn't. bitch, bitch, bitch spanone May 2012 #25
Here .... you might need this ... JoePhilly May 2012 #29
not necessarily correct dsc May 2012 #30
If an OPPOSITE sex marriage takes place in any state, it is recognized in ALL states Lex May 2012 #31
The full faith and credit clause has to do with DevonRex May 2012 #32
Umm, no, sorry that's not true. Lex May 2012 #33
Of course it has to DO with this topic. But not for the reason DevonRex May 2012 #34
In the summary Lex May 2012 #39
Isn't it beautiful? We know this is where it's going and we'll get to see it in our lifetime. DevonRex May 2012 #43
Not in all cases. Kaleva May 2012 #36
If you meet the minimum age requirements in SC, you are still married Lex May 2012 #37
You appear to be correct. My mistake. Kaleva May 2012 #38
Who is jonathan alder? Why should I care what he says? "sexual preference"? Really? (edited) Cerridwen May 2012 #35
Seriously. He apparently DevonRex May 2012 #40
And, he's an "environmental" lawyer arguing for private property and Cerridwen May 2012 #41
Thank you for the edit. Cerridwen May 2012 #42
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