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Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:08 PM Jun 2015

OK, Bernie, I give up. [View all]

I have looked at three presidential hopefuls for 2016: 1) Elizabeth Warren; 2) Martin O’Malley; and 3) Bernie Sanders (Hillary is right out for obvious reasons if you research fracking, TPP, Wall Street coziness and the Iraq War Resolution for starters). The first three potential candidates are acceptable to me even though each one has warts (as does every politician I have ever studied).

Elizabeth Warren is not running and I do not believe the American electorate is sophisticated enough to respond to a draft movement. Martin O’Malley is running and has the potential to be a great president. I gravitated toward him a couple of months ago and considered supporting him for the long haul, but his decision to wait to declare at the end of May was a strategic blunder. Bernie Sanders has gained momentum since entering the race and is starting to garner some positive press.

Initially I shied away from Bernie because I believed in the political “expert” perspective: Sanders cannot win the nomination and even if he could, he couldn’t win the general election. Here is my list of original reasons for rejection and my current thinking:
1) He’s old;
2) He’s funny looking and has a funny accent;
3) He’s Jewish;
4) He’s not the right physical type for the TV age; and
5) His socialist ideas are too radical.

Bernie is 73 years old, so he’s no spring chicken. Reagan was 69 when he first ran. Bernie is much more vigorous than Reagan and in terms of gerontological progress, the age of 74 today is perhaps relatively younger than 69 in 1980, when Reagan was running.

Bernie sounds and looks funny to many people I suppose, but I don’t think that is a show stopper for being taken seriously. Ross Perot sounded and looked much funnier than Bernie, but until Perot started acting crazy in the 1992 campaign, it seemed likely that he would win the election (he was ahead in the polls until his meltdown).

He is Jewish, but after a black president and viable women candidates, is this a big deal? I don’t think so.

In anthropological terms, Bernie may be what’s called an endomorph. He doesn’t look like the mesomorphs commonly elected (e.g. Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama). However George W. Bush is a little short by presidential standards, and also see the comments above about Ross Perot.

So it all comes down to his “radical” political beliefs. Bernie is a self-described social democrat, favoring the policies of Scandanavian countries. What’s radical about it is that it is largely the way American policies were headed before Ronald Reagan. Northern Europe provides college education for whoever wants it, without any cost. Everyone is guaranteed adequate food, clothing and shelter. Medical care is free. They can do this because they do not try to police the world and the rich and corporations are required to pay their fair share.

Except for health care, America did most of this before Reagan and still had enough wealth left over to engage in a very expensive cold war. Scandanavian health care costs less than half per capita compared to American health care. They insure everybody, while we have tens of thousands who die every year because of a lack of health care. His radical idea is to tax the rich and return to the values which gave America the largest, most robust middle class in the world.

Bernie’s other radical idea is that he believes in science. Scientists tell us climate change is our greatest threat and we need to get serious about it.

Bernie is gaining momentum because he is telling the truth and people are listening to him, another old-fashioned, radical idea. They are not reacting to his “image.” He walks the talk. He has fought his whole life for the 99%. Because of Reagan and the morons who have followed him, wealth inequality is at its worst level in history, rivaled only by the end of the Gilded Age. Americans have become “radical” because they have been layed off, pensions lost, homes foreclosed and no way to send kids to college. Meanwhile bankers not only don’t go to prison, their profits are bigger than ever. The American people have had enough and so have I. OK, Bernie, that’s it. I’m in.

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OK, Bernie, I give up. [View all] Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 OP
Enlightenment is a good thing RobertEarl Jun 2015 #1
Excellent "Vetting of Candidates"! n/t fredamae Jun 2015 #2
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I know Admiral Loinpresser, he kicks ass for his candidate BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #13
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My vote HassleCat Jun 2015 #26
Hey, Girlfriend! Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #46
Doing much better, thanks! BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #50
I did not know Admiral Loinpresser until someone directed me to this OP. I like what he said, how he sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #54
That's a very thoughtful argument that you've layed out. Wilms Jun 2015 #4
Sanders = Common Sense. blm Jun 2015 #5
It really us just that simple. hifiguy Jun 2015 #20
I know. And pretty much every time I post that it gets ignored. ; ) blm Jun 2015 #21
Believe it or not, I scoffed at the idea a few short months ago. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #6
Yeah. Me too. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #7
Absolutely. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #15
LOL at waiting to get into a race 18 months away is waiting too long. FSogol Jun 2015 #8
Go, Bernie! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #9
This is why he'll win! Nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #10
K & R. Thanks for reminding us that these are not new, radical ideas rather the US had appalachiablue Jun 2015 #11
Bernie's "radical agenda" ... staggerleem Jun 2015 #56
Not taking him off the hook, but don't give Reagan ALL the credit... immoderate Jun 2015 #12
Yes, many people are sick and tired of the status quo. truedelphi Jun 2015 #14
Obama's father was just plain African. JimDandy Jun 2015 #36
One of the reasons Barack is President today, Volaris Jun 2015 #39
Education-Industrial Complex??!! staggerleem Jun 2015 #57
Education is becoming a private industry. Heard of 'charter schools?' immoderate Jun 2015 #59
Of course I have! staggerleem Jun 2015 #62
They do what they have to, to maximize profits. immoderate Jun 2015 #63
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! - Speaking Of Climate Change... Did You Catch THIS: WillyT Jun 2015 #16
Welcome to Team Bernie! MissDeeds Jun 2015 #17
I understand exactly what you are saying... SoapBox Jun 2015 #19
He is genuine DeeDeeNY Jun 2015 #22
Just think where we could be if not for the Reagan Reset. k&r polichick Jun 2015 #23
He may be 73, but I'm sure he'll be ok, and if not...well NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #24
And do you know Bernie's NOT a millionaire? Not even close. DrBulldog Jun 2015 #25
It is nice HassleCat Jun 2015 #27
Because Bernie is not a millionaire I trust him much more than the others. L0oniX Jun 2015 #51
Team Bernie all the way. We can do this. azmom Jun 2015 #28
Welcome Aboard. Paka Jun 2015 #29
That last paragraph! The Pundits have their head up Washington's ass and are wrong again! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #30
Admiral, I salute you! ms liberty Jun 2015 #31
Im voting for Bennie because,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #32
Welcome aboard Admiral... malokvale77 Jun 2015 #33
K & R !!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #34
He does remind me of a Jewish HST Hepburn Jun 2015 #35
Please consider this a "formal invitation" to the LiberalElite Jun 2015 #37
Good points rosesaylavee Jun 2015 #38
Ahoy, Admiral Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2015 #40
Very well put BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #41
I agree. We have a fight ahead of us but we can win. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #42
What a wonderful analysis. I'd like to share your OP with the Bernie DU Group if that's OK. nt Stardust Jun 2015 #43
Sure thing. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #45
Welcome aboard. SamKnause Jun 2015 #44
Welcome to the Bern Ward. :-) [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #47
"Time for tough love on Wall St. Minus the love." CrispyQ Jun 2015 #48
Welcome :) tymorial Jun 2015 #49
well Natalie Portman is a heck of a Jew. and clearly upset with Ben PatrynXX Jun 2015 #52
Thom Hartmann just read your OP on his show. n/t JackBeck Jun 2015 #53
Enjoyed this read a lot! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #55
This just in: Elizabeth Warren is not running. KamaAina Jun 2015 #58
K&R! This post has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #60
But.....but......but.......GUNZ!!! pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #61
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