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37. it's not honesty, it's undisciplined headline-stealing.
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:00 PM
May 2012

if biden and obama were just ordinary senators, then yeah, sure, his candor is great and if he forced an issue center stage that needed attention, then great.

but biden is obama's cheerleader-in-chief, and if they had a schedule for obama making an announcement at some other time, then biden was acting unilaterally against the plan.


now, if he was pissed with the obama team for planning on burying this issue until after the election, and knowingly did this to force the issue as a matter of principle, that's one thing.

if he just let it slip because he has no discipline, that's another.

but it's not a matter of courage or candor, it's a matter of pushing your own agenda at your own timing or letting the president push his agenda at his timing.



for the record, if this is what happened, then i'm very glad he did it.

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if they're truly angry, then they're stupid magical thyme May 2012 #1
Yeah, I'm thinking in the long run they'll look back and thank Joe for gateley May 2012 #3
I think at this point, PatSeg May 2012 #2
I agree -- the staff, not Obama himself. gateley May 2012 #4
Not yet PatSeg May 2012 #5
I think that's an excellent point! nt gateley May 2012 #7
I've heard them say that the Obama & Hillary staffs had problems with each other/hung Pirate Smile May 2012 #16
They each viewed the other as The Enemy for so long -- and both sides were so gateley May 2012 #20
Yep. Sometimes it is easier to forgive someone for doing something to you individually then it is to Pirate Smile May 2012 #23
Agree. nt gateley May 2012 #29
you don't have to lie to avoid answering a question. unblock May 2012 #6
Yeah, you just have to be a coward. Jennicut May 2012 #8
See - that impression is why they got pissed. They say it is inaccurate and it elevates Pirate Smile May 2012 #31
it's not honesty, it's undisciplined headline-stealing. unblock May 2012 #37
Are they really angry? GoCubsGo May 2012 #9
Tweety had a couple of reporters on (One from the NYT, the other from WaPo) and gateley May 2012 #21
Obviously b/c Obama was forced to take one even remotely lib stance. kysrsoze May 2012 #24
Ah, the "anonymous sources". GoCubsGo May 2012 #26
were they not expecting the issue to come up in a Meet the Press interview, given the timing? fishwax May 2012 #10
It definitely didn't sound like a gaffe PatSeg May 2012 #12
I think you nailed it. This was well orchestrated and a great performance by all..n/t monmouth May 2012 #15
Hi! PatSeg May 2012 #18
Hi Pat.. monmouth May 2012 #22
Unfortunatly I think they have a point, the timing is questionable Exultant Democracy May 2012 #11
How is it a given that the Obama team had the Romney story in the tank? Vattel May 2012 #34
Absolutly without question that is exactly what happened. Exultant Democracy May 2012 #38
What I read was that they are pissed that Joe made it look like he pressured Obama into doing Pirate Smile May 2012 #13
Easy. His statement forced the issue and left little wiggle room. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #14
Sounds like the media's trying to amp up the drama. n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #17
Yep. GoCubsGo May 2012 #27
Biden was the canary in the coal mine Capt. Obvious May 2012 #19
I think the timing was very good. panader0 May 2012 #25
I like Joe, and so does Obama Whisp May 2012 #28
The old "some people are saying" routine. Swede May 2012 #30
I actually believe it. The publications are legit and these reporters have cultivated gateley May 2012 #33
It was serendipitous timing, though Canuckistanian May 2012 #32
Obama's political advisors might see Biden that way. boxman15 May 2012 #35
They should be kissing his feet for the Broderick May 2012 #36
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