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GGJohn

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197. It is?

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:58 PM

Jun 2015

That's funny, because that's not my view of this group, most agree that the Republicans are fucking idiots that are fucking up the country, but few have accused them of being traitors.

Maybe you should read what constitutes treason.

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html

U.S. Constitution - Article 3 Section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

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Here the Fuck We Go.....9 shot dead.. [View all] busterbrown May 2015 OP

Once guns are used illegally they wash their hands of it. onehandle May 2015 #1

Which ones were the good guys with the guns, and which the bad guys? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #2

Considering there were two criminal gangs shooting it out hack89 May 2015 #11

The cops were THERE. Glitterati May 2015 #13

So there were good guys with guns there. hack89 May 2015 #14

What's my beef? Let's start with NINE DEAD! Glitterati May 2015 #16

So make it illegal for criminal gangs to kill each other with illegal weapons hack89 May 2015 #29

LOL at until the cops showed up -- another gang with guns JonLP24 Jun 2015 #221

If only someone had a gun none of this would of happened. JaneyVee May 2015 #3

When will people learn that guns **prevent** gunshots? valerief Jun 2015 #253

NRA speaks only for the manufacturers. Everyone else can go slug rats. Buzz Clik May 2015 #4

No good guys with guns. MohRokTah May 2015 #5

Open carry is so wonderful for Texas. Things are going to be Lint Head May 2015 #6

The restaurant should get some of the blame maryellen99 May 2015 #7

What open carry? dumbcat May 2015 #8

It is sarcasm regarding the obvious vote that is about to happen. Lint Head May 2015 #9

You're a bit behind dumbcat May 2015 #44

Good. Hope it stays that way. Lint Head May 2015 #53

Texas Lawmakers Talk About Expanding Gun Rights Day After Mass Shooting pinboy3niner May 2015 #68

Open carry HoustonDave May 2015 #84

As soon as you said classes JonLP24 Jun 2015 #227

The old west had restrictive gun laws JonLP24 Jun 2015 #223

Very few old west towns had restrictive gun laws, and those that did, GGJohn Jun 2015 #228

I'm not sure what the percentages are JonLP24 Jun 2015 #232

What's facsinating is the the eastern cities, NY, Boston, etc. GGJohn Jun 2015 #234

Don't know the history of the East JonLP24 Jun 2015 #241

tear gas, riot gear, pepper spray? bigtree May 2015 #10

Resistance? HoustonDave May 2015 #80

that's some far-fetched assumption you're making bigtree May 2015 #90

Threat perception HoustonDave May 2015 #95

Your going overboard JonLP24 Jun 2015 #229

I've said it before and I will say it again... Cassidy1 May 2015 #12

Just repeal the 2A. Then repeal the state Constitutions. Then you will be all set. Nt hack89 May 2015 #15

2a was meant for militias, not citizens. Cassidy1 May 2015 #20

Heller, the Democratic Party platform and the president all say otherwise hack89 May 2015 #28

They're wrong Cassidy1 May 2015 #60

It is still the law of the land hack89 May 2015 #69

I did not know so many gun advocates were on here. Cassidy1 May 2015 #75

There are many pro-gun Democrats hack89 May 2015 #81

some of them are in the wrong party. Cassidy1 May 2015 #105

For disagreeing with you about gun control? hack89 May 2015 #117

get over myself? Cassidy1 May 2015 #123

Yeah, GGJohn May 2015 #129

Calculus? Cassidy1 May 2015 #138

And some are just pure annoying. GGJohn May 2015 #122

Who is "traitorous"? Marengo May 2015 #166

Apparently anybody that does not agree with her. n/t oneshooter May 2015 #168

Agree with who? Cassidy1 May 2015 #173

The people who belong with the right wingers and libertarians. Cassidy1 May 2015 #172

So, let me get this straight, GGJohn Jun 2015 #175

Not MY philosphy Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #193

It is? GGJohn Jun 2015 #197

Well to each his own I guess Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #198

Well to each his own I guess. GGJohn Jun 2015 #202

ok where do you live? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #209

I've made no secret of where I live, GGJohn Jun 2015 #214

Who "belongs" with right wingers? Marengo Jun 2015 #187

I'll leave that up to you Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #194

Hmmm... A couple of bowls of wrong there. Adrahil May 2015 #32

The definition of militias is clear. Cassidy1 May 2015 #47

Federal law defines the militia as ALL able-bodied males 18 to 45 and all able-bodied females Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #71

Where is that defined? Cassidy1 May 2015 #76

Militia HoustonDave May 2015 #83

You're probably viewed as a real wet blanket by him now discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #87

off topic Cassidy1 May 2015 #108

That needs to be changed Cassidy1 May 2015 #107

The Supreme Court decided differently. nt Codeine May 2015 #34

So now you're a fan of the Roberts court? dbackjon May 2015 #37

Just pointing out a reality. Codeine May 2015 #38

One shouldn't use a Roberts court 5-4 decision as justification for anything dbackjon May 2015 #45

Heller was a travesty Cassidy1 May 2015 #65

Gun control is in full retreat nationwide & the homicide rate is entering its 3rd decade in decline. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #72

just wait Cassidy1 May 2015 #74

Based on what? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #88

based on history being cyclical Cassidy1 May 2015 #104

Then the presence or absence of gun control laws are not a determining factor. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #112

Maybe so about human nature Cassidy1 May 2015 #126

Like alcohol and drugs? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #132

Two different things Cassidy1 May 2015 #135

How so? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #143

You're asking the difference between a gun and a drug? Cassidy1 May 2015 #144

I know the difference. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #165

I don't imagine Cassidy1 May 2015 #174

Could it be because in the US, we have a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms? GGJohn Jun 2015 #177

I misspoke. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #182

Or maybe most Americans agree that the 2A confers an individual right to keep and bear arms. GGJohn Jun 2015 #183

Oh so now it's "most Americans." Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #184

Instead of using your imagination why not compare the US to the US. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #189

So an antique firearm Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #195

If they are defending themselves that is all that matters. People have Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #196

Antique firearms were discussed as if they're different. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #199

Much of gun control hysteria relies on wild embellishments about "military style assault rifles." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #201

What is controller mania? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #207

Except it isn't those of us legally owning and carrying that are the problem, GGJohn Jun 2015 #210

You and the NRA are the problem. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #212

Naw, we're not, GGJohn Jun 2015 #213

"People need to be and feel safe from those walking around with bravado." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #216

Phobia!? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #246

I stand by my use of the word phobia. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #249

Source? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #250

Source -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #255

I don't see Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #258

Supposition without basis in evidence. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #260

People turn on a dime all the time Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #264

Sounds like a good reason to be prepared. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #266

"But you can control guns." Yes, MANY of us Liberals can control our guns... quite accurately too! Ghost in the Machine May 2015 #155

yes a narrow margin Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #211

.... GGJohn Jun 2015 #215

They're not? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #245

They are wrong Cassidy1 May 2015 #61

Good luck with that. aikoaiko May 2015 #36

It just takes a little political will to round up the horses. Cassidy1 May 2015 #62

In 2013 the biggest gun control effort I've ever seen failed famously aikoaiko May 2015 #67

After a big tragedy Cassidy1 May 2015 #77

I think massive restrictions on gun ownership is a lost cause. aikoaiko May 2015 #91

piecemeal? Cassidy1 May 2015 #103

And if that for some miracle happened? busterbrown May 2015 #98

It would make no difference hack89 May 2015 #99

Please name Democratic congress members who will support your stance! Nt Logical May 2015 #19

A lot of them do. Cassidy1 May 2015 #21

So it should be easy to name them. Codeine May 2015 #33

A lot of them Cassidy1 May 2015 #46

One of the reasons Controllers are not trusted is because they have no respect for ANY rights. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #222

Bullshit, name 5! nt Logical May 2015 #50

Menendez, Esty, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein Cassidy1 May 2015 #58

Your claim is they would be willing to ban all guns? Really? nt Logical May 2015 #93

possibly Cassidy1 May 2015 #102

No text Duckhunter935 May 2015 #109

"No text" Cassidy1 May 2015 #127

I am personally anti guns but even I disagree avebury May 2015 #31

I guess what happened in Waco is okay with you? Cassidy1 May 2015 #59

No but I figure it was Darwin in action in cleaning out avebury May 2015 #70

Now watch all the RW trolls come crawling out of the wood work Matrosov May 2015 #85

So, you believe that only the police should have guns? GGJohn May 2015 #121

A Polite Society! truebluegreen May 2015 #17

yes indeed Cassidy1 May 2015 #63

If someone wants to kill someone with a gun, nothings going to stop them. Nt Logical May 2015 #18

Except if they can't get one Cassidy1 May 2015 #22

You sort of have been asleep the last 10 years i assume. nt Logical May 2015 #51

No I've been awake Cassidy1 May 2015 #56

Humanity... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #52

So are you saying that someone can just pick up a rocket launcher at the store? Cassidy1 May 2015 #57

Let's just say that you need to know where to shop. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #82

hmmmmmmmmmmmm Cassidy1 May 2015 #106

Criminals... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #119

but not all follow the law Cassidy1 May 2015 #124

What's your point? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #128

How am I treating everyone with suspicion? Cassidy1 May 2015 #137

Nothing to fear from what? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #141

If you have nothing to hide, Cassidy1 May 2015 #146

OMFG!!!! GGJohn May 2015 #147

You're talking about racism Cassidy1 May 2015 #150

Words escape me. GGJohn May 2015 #151

Words escape you because you know I am right. Cassidy1 May 2015 #154

LOL. GGJohn May 2015 #157

If not my "belief." Cassidy1 May 2015 #169

Uh huh. GGJohn May 2015 #171

Define "racist" please. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #158

The victims in these cases are always black. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #176

Very true discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #190

In Baltimore four of the six cops indited are black. oneshooter Jun 2015 #191

You could ask... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #156

I did not see where you made suggestions about improving the situation. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #178

Yet you want civilians to be disarmed and the cops to possess a monopoly on weapons. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #239

Cops are civilians Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #247

Yeah. Sure. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #248

Not sure I follow you. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #254

That being the case, I don't suppose you would have an issue... Marengo May 2015 #160

All? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #180

Why not? If you've done nothing wrong... Marengo Jun 2015 #186

I have no hesitation Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #251

So after showing contempt for the 1st & 2nd Amendments you now add the 4th & 5th. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #238

Where do i have contempt for the first? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #252

In Post #105 you stated about pro-gun Dems, "some of them are even traiterous." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #256

What Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #259

You're attempting to cast political speech as being traitorous. That's the entire reason why Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #261

Lighten up Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #263

You wrote what you wrote, without any suggestion that you were speaking metaphorically. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #265

You're attempting to cast political speech as being traitorous. That's the entire reason why Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #261

No shit!! GGJohn May 2015 #130

I guess I'm confused. Is it guns you don't like, people being killed by guns or...? jonno99 May 2015 #54

I can only point to England. Cassidy1 May 2015 #64

I have to agree since baseball is more of an American sport. jonno99 May 2015 #94

Baseball? Cassidy1 May 2015 #101

I stand corrected. Apparently American style baseball is played jonno99 May 2015 #118

No comment on the linked article? Marengo May 2015 #167

I did. Cassidy1 May 2015 #170

A response to the article linked it post # 94? Marengo Jun 2015 #188

I did not see an article. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #192

Crime stats HoustonDave May 2015 #96

link" Cassidy1 May 2015 #100

From the FBI Duckhunter935 May 2015 #111

Hmmmm, I notice he shut up when you posted that link. GGJohn May 2015 #161

That seems to happen Duckhunter935 May 2015 #162

Yep, and we're the ones accused of being extremists, crazy, etc. GGJohn May 2015 #163

I try and be polite to all Duckhunter935 May 2015 #164

What do you mean I shut up? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #205

Only took you a week to respond, GGJohn Jun 2015 #208

There used to be another anti-RKBA poster here who would take days at a time to reply. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #219

He sounds like a certain person on a time out who was accusing us of condoning murder. GGJohn Jun 2015 #220

No, definitely not who I'm thinking of. He'd reply fairly quickly. This one is unique. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #224

You're probably right. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #226

How about handguns? Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #204

just like drugs Duckhunter935 May 2015 #110

I would not compare drugs to guns that way. Cassidy1 May 2015 #125

Of course you wouldn't. GGJohn May 2015 #131

Welcome back! Duckhunter935 May 2015 #133

Thanks!!! GGJohn May 2015 #134

????? Cassidy1 May 2015 #136

No, they're not. GGJohn May 2015 #139

Guns hurt other people. Cassidy1 May 2015 #140

Drugs don't hurt other people? GGJohn May 2015 #142

And they are killed with guns Cassidy1 May 2015 #145

Drugs kill too, so do cars, so do knives, so does anthrax. GGJohn May 2015 #148

No I don't get your drift. Cassidy1 May 2015 #149

Fucking wrong.....again. GGJohn May 2015 #152

The only target for a ballbat is a baseball Cassidy1 May 2015 #153

So fucking what? GGJohn May 2015 #159

I don't see where gun rights are expanding. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #179

Well, let's see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #181

You also say that gay rights are a right. Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #185

It is fucking amazing how these gun idiots... busterbrown Jun 2015 #203

Exactly Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #206

Your comment is disgusting. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #218

I find yours (notice there's no apostrophe?) to be far worse, siding with guns, because guns. Electric Monk Jun 2015 #230

Ahh, the hypocrisy drips from your words. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #231

Please, do elaborate, and be specific. Remember, 1 more hide and you're in timeout again. Electric Monk Jun 2015 #233

Oh, you damn well know what I'm talking about and don't expect me GGJohn Jun 2015 #235

LOL. GGJohn Jun 2015 #217

Post #71 Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #225

Think of it as Darwin in action. So, yeah, a bunch of idiots with guns are killing each other.. Is underahedgerow May 2015 #23

Where should the little children at Sandy Hook have migrated to? blue neen May 2015 #24

Absolutely an anomaly in the whole scheme of things, and nothing less than horrifically underahedgerow May 2015 #27

Aren't you going to hurl the "emotional" charge, as well? Paladin May 2015 #39

erm, I'm not pro-gun. I oppose all guns in fact, to the point of disarming the police forces like underahedgerow May 2015 #40

amen Cassidy1 May 2015 #66

Well the truth is Duckhunter935 May 2015 #113

Yup, straight from the gun control bible. eom GGJohn Jun 2015 #243

It seems to me that the wealthiest NOLALady May 2015 #86

How long before they blame gay marriage? AgingAmerican May 2015 #25

+1000000 Jamastiene May 2015 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots May 2015 #26

This is why it's always wise to carry your own personal protection device. ileus May 2015 #30

Will you please use a different source? pintobean May 2015 #35

Are you trying to tell me that, gangs who do illegal things, did illegal things? Glassunion May 2015 #41

+1000 jonno99 May 2015 #55

Great point, crickets will be the response. Duckhunter935 May 2015 #114

So did they think they were filming a block of sons of anarchy? WTF. Nutty fuckers. lonestarnot May 2015 #42

Ah, yes another Gunz hate fest -- in GD Eleanors38 May 2015 #43

I give them the big news on this one Duckhunter935 May 2015 #115

Some are still trying to hot wire a gunz/biker connection on the radioz but Eleanors38 May 2015 #120

I blame crappy/no education wendylaroux Jun 2015 #257

Outlaw bikers are not known for their hifiguy May 2015 #49

Nothing happens when little kids at school are slaughtered. Vinca May 2015 #73

They just announced they have to move over 130 bikes away from the scene to a secure facility. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #78

They're loading up tow trucks. tammywammy May 2015 #89

Textbook definition of "thugs". Romulox May 2015 #79

+1 uponit7771 May 2015 #92

yep nt Duckhunter935 May 2015 #116

It could have been avoided if everyone were armed with bazookas. True Blue Door May 2015 #97

Ban all Guns!!! n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #200

Obviously, more guns would have prevented this shit. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #236

How would it have prevented this "shit"? GGJohn Jun 2015 #237

Here: GoneFishin Jun 2015 #240

Sorry, missed that. GGJohn Jun 2015 #242

My bad. I need to use it a bit more liberally. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #244