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126. Independents are unaffiliated voters. Some of them are too far right or too far left

Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:18 AM

Jun 2015

to feel comfortable within the two party system. Most of them are at the contested center and tend to switch back and forth.

Democrats won independent voters in 2006 and 2008. We lost them in 2010. In 2012, independents in traditional swing states swung Republican, and elsewhere tended to vote with Democrats.

Independents who voted in 2014 went Republican.

The political ideology of a centrists tends lay close to the political center between the parties. Centrists are independents only if they are unaffiliated with a party.

Note: Members of the Libertarian, Green Party, Socialist Party USA, Constitution Party, and a dozen others are not Independents. None of the parties I mentioned are centrists.

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Just curious about what your thoughts are on the number of Republican candidates. [View all] marym625 Jun 2015 OP

Some are simply auditioning to get their own shows on FAUX. nt Electric Monk Jun 2015 #1

That is probably exactly right marym625 Jun 2015 #2

They get the chance to raise some money and establish a "brand" to cash in on. arcane1 Jun 2015 #3

see, that's what I think marym625 Jun 2015 #5

Desperately throwing any and all shit against the wall to see what sticks? Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #4

interesting take on it marym625 Jun 2015 #6

The GOP has moved too far right. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #7

Well said marym625 Jun 2015 #10

A bunch of clowns. darkangel218 Jun 2015 #8

I think they lost their masses marym625 Jun 2015 #11

Don't underestimate their blindness darkangel218 Jun 2015 #13

It's really sad marym625 Jun 2015 #15

No kidding. darkangel218 Jun 2015 #17

If we only have a fake one marym625 Jun 2015 #18

That's a guarantee. darkangel218 Jun 2015 #21

It won't take long either, I don't think. marym625 Jun 2015 #27

I think so too. darkangel218 Jun 2015 #31

Sooner or later sorefeet Jun 2015 #59

I hear you. darkangel218 Jun 2015 #79

Feels like a Dog and Pony Show libodem Jun 2015 #9

BINGO! marym625 Jun 2015 #12

They want Hillary because they can beat her. They picked our candidate for us. Exilednight Jun 2015 #51

I don't know if they can libodem Jun 2015 #70

She is "more of a man"? marym625 Jun 2015 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author libodem Jun 2015 #150

They don't need to beat her. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #105

+1000 marym625 Jun 2015 #109

They looked at history and realize that only twice have Democrats Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #14

You really think that's it? marym625 Jun 2015 #16

Yes, a lot of it is hubris at work. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #30

Yeah, that's quite probable marym625 Jun 2015 #39

I think the RNC wants to find a candidate that appeals to independents Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #80

One might wonder then marym625 Jun 2015 #89

As of 2012, 42% of voters identified as independent. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #93

I didn't realize that marym625 Jun 2015 #104

Independents are unaffiliated voters. Some of them are too far right or too far left Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #126

Yes marym625 Jun 2015 #128

Excellent definition of a R. jwirr Jun 2015 #69

The "Wht not me?" candidate TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #87

Remember what happened in 2012? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #19

Good point marym625 Jun 2015 #22

And pretty much the same dynamic is playing itself out this time. . . hatrack Jun 2015 #60

I wish we had just as many with no clear front-runner this early. nt peecoolyour Jun 2015 #20

I wouldn't want that many. marym625 Jun 2015 #24

I'm thinking the amount of people who have already announced. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #26

I'm too tired right now to look it up marym625 Jun 2015 #32

Oh, I thought it was like 9 or 10. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #33

No it's definitely about 20 marym625 Jun 2015 #37

It's down by a few - early May it was 22 GOP presidential candidates csziggy Jun 2015 #85

Thank you marym625 Jun 2015 #92

Even as wannabee clowns they're a flop. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #23

LOL! marym625 Jun 2015 #25

It's great IMO! Nobody can possibly keep them straight! struggle4progress Jun 2015 #28

Maybe they should just play musical chairs marym625 Jun 2015 #34

The more, the merrier, I say: it provides unlimited opportunity struggle4progress Jun 2015 #43

"insane Republican presidential candidate" marym625 Jun 2015 #45

if Hillary dropped out you would see something similar on the Dem side JI7 Jun 2015 #29

I think it is because of Hillary that we are seeing it on the GOP side marym625 Jun 2015 #35

Remember in 2008 how Bush was so horrible that America went and elected its first black president? CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #36

It's really disgusting marym625 Jun 2015 #38

The RNC knows an idiot like Perry, kooks like Carson and Cruz, bible thumpers like Santorum and Huck ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #40

oy vey! marym625 Jun 2015 #41

Oh, this is fun. Here's my take. lovemydog Jun 2015 #42

I think you are too kind marym625 Jun 2015 #44

Yeah, it's tough finding descriptors for such out of touch lovemydog Jun 2015 #78

+1 marym625 Jun 2015 #88

It's a whole lot of people trying to pad their resumes for speaking fees. Vinca Jun 2015 #46

It sure is fodder for the comedians! marym625 Jun 2015 #48

Walker's not yet-but inevitable entry set the bar very low & many can step over it HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #47

I was finishing your last sentence in my mind marym625 Jun 2015 #50

In our party we would ignore anyone without some higher education because our elected officials jwirr Jun 2015 #75

Well said! n/t marym625 Jun 2015 #76

I'm kind of jealous. I wish we had this many people running. Exilednight Jun 2015 #49

They may not all be in yet. It's actually not historically late HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #53

Flood the Market with Candidates to Distract from Democrats? KoKo Jun 2015 #64

Real democracy requires options to choose between, they thin out quite quickly HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #82

I feel the same way. loooneranger Jun 2015 #84

Well... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #106

I'm not marym625 Jun 2015 #112

From the point of view of the party rock Jun 2015 #52

Exactly marym625 Jun 2015 #55

Each one is a greed head that has figured out that you can get rich randr Jun 2015 #54

Maybe I will run. marym625 Jun 2015 #56

It shows what I've been saying for a while now: no one is in charge of the GOP. randome Jun 2015 #57

I hope so! marym625 Jun 2015 #58

Fux "news" is in control this time workinclasszero Jun 2015 #61

Most definitely. 1 is too much but what ya gonna do? :) marym625 Jun 2015 #65

If this continues Fox News are going to have take off their shoes to keep track underpants Jun 2015 #62

LOL! marym625 Jun 2015 #66

Publishers Clearing House gives away a lot less free money, and millions enter. Orsino Jun 2015 #63

Yeah, true. just still amazing to me. marym625 Jun 2015 #67

Less is more. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #68

I agree marym625 Jun 2015 #114

The Republican Party has no real national leadership it can call on MineralMan Jun 2015 #71

The leaders of the republican party are the Koch bros workinclasszero Jun 2015 #81

its like a big super market full of everything but food . olddots Jun 2015 #72

LOL! Good one! n/t marym625 Jun 2015 #94

... n2doc Jun 2015 #73

Love this! Thanks! eom marym625 Jun 2015 #95

I have no issue with it bigwillq Jun 2015 #74

As do I marym625 Jun 2015 #96

Every one has a chance at this point bigwillq Jun 2015 #118

No doubt. marym625 Jun 2015 #119

RNC really can't control who runs. Anybody can declare. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #77

Which I find disgusting marym625 Jun 2015 #97

I don't think they're encouraging it. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #141

There are always this many in a primary. loooneranger Jun 2015 #83

But we're talking more than double that marym625 Jun 2015 #98

The GOP could run a dog turn in the shape of Jesus JEB Jun 2015 #86

yikes! what a thought marym625 Jun 2015 #99

I haven't really stopped to think about it. LWolf Jun 2015 #90

That is great! marym625 Jun 2015 #100

I'm sure you're right; LWolf Jun 2015 #143

Not much, it just serves to split the anti establishment riff raff up a hundred ways TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #91

hmmm. marym625 Jun 2015 #101

That the clowns split the non establishment vote which clears the path for the JEB/Romney type TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #142

Which is exactly why marym625 Jun 2015 #145

All of them are idiots. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #102

Oh what fun would that be! marym625 Jun 2015 #107

He would murder them in debate kenfrequed Jun 2015 #121

I can't believe an organization like fox "news" is in charge of it marym625 Jun 2015 #123

I don't know if they are officially in charge of it kenfrequed Jun 2015 #127

completely agree with everything you said marym625 Jun 2015 #129

Just another way to 'skim' money from their supporters. dmosh42 Jun 2015 #103

disgusting bunch they are marym625 Jun 2015 #108

It's a way to make a lot of money!! Why not run for President? Sancho Jun 2015 #111

I need some money marym625 Jun 2015 #113

If you are in Florida, you should run! Sancho Jun 2015 #133

Ha! marym625 Jun 2015 #134

What you are seeing is three republican parties nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #115

That makes sense marym625 Jun 2015 #116

It's politics and almost no politician runs to lose nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #117

Eh... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #130

Which is not the same nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #132

I don't really care how many they put up... Wounded Bear Jun 2015 #120

I suspect there are no Republicans left that aren't batshit crazy. marym625 Jun 2015 #122

They see historical trends that would normally shift the resident of the WH to a Republican Sheepshank Jun 2015 #124

+1 marym625 Jun 2015 #125

There are a lot of contestants in the "America's Got Stupid" competition. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #131

LOL! marym625 Jun 2015 #137

It's an intentional strategy to water down the focus of any one candidate. Make it a circus so their Pisces Jun 2015 #135

I believe there is more to it than meets the eye marym625 Jun 2015 #138

Rick Perry hamsterjill Jun 2015 #136

I understand the worry. marym625 Jun 2015 #139

Too few. KamaAina Jun 2015 #140

ha! marym625 Jun 2015 #146

the more the scarier spanone Jun 2015 #144

ain't that the truth! marym625 Jun 2015 #147

I heard about Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #148

Oh definitely marym625 Jun 2015 #149

They are probably just doing it for the money and whatever perks they might get. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #151

How amazingly disgusting of them. eom. marym625 Jun 2015 #152