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Better Believe It

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Fri May 11, 2012, 11:23 PM May 2012

Obama's gay marriage move has no impact on policies: Still Hasn't Signed Anti-Discrimination Order [View all]



Obama's gay rights move has no impact on policies
Associated Press
May 10, 2012


President Barack Obama's announcement that he supports gay marriage brings the presidential stamp of approval to the divisive social issue but does not carry swift policy changes along with it.

Obama described his decision as a personal position. White House officials said his decision would not affect current policies. The president said he continued to believe that marriage is an issue best decided by states.

Read the full article at:

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/obamas-gay-rights-move-1435384.html


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Obama Still Has Not Signed 'Nondiscrimination Executive Order'
By DANIEL HALPER
May 10, 2012


President Obama made what's being heralded as a big announcement on same sex marriage. "I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married," Obama told ABC News in an interview broadcast this morning. Obama's the first sitting president to come out in favor of same sex marriage.

But what this might actually mean in terms of policy is a little murkier. Perhaps most pressing is the issue of a so-called "nondiscrimination executive order" that gay-rights groups have been pushing. The president has refused—and continues to refuse—to sign it.

"The order, which has been drafted for months awaiting the president’s signature, would prohibit discrimination by federal contractors on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity," the Washington Post reported. "It has become a major focus for gay-rights groups, but in recent weeks activists began to worry that the White House might opt against approval."

This is not the only policy issue that Obama has steered clear of. Already Obama has indicated that while he believes "same sex couples should be able to get married," he also believes states should be able to ban gay marriages. This is particularly pertinent in light of Tuesday's vote in North Carolina to ban same sex marriage. The ban overwhelmingly passed.

Read the full article at:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-still-has-not-signed-nondiscrimination-executive-order_644332.html


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Obama on Gay Marriage: I Support it, and Support States Banning it
By DANIEL HALPER
May 10, 2012


This morning on ABC, President Obama said that he thinks same sex marriage should be allowed. "I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married," the president said.

But he also reaffirmed his belief that same sex marriage is a states' rights issue, and that it's therefore OK for states to ban the practice:

PRESIDENT OBAMA: And I continue to believe that this is an issue that is gonna be worked out at the local level, because historically, this has not been a federal issue, what's recognized as a marriage.

I think it's important to recognize that-- folks-- who-- feel very strongly that marriage should be defined narrowly as-- between a man and a woman-- many of them are not coming at it from a mean-spirited perspective. They're coming at it because they care about families. And-- they-- they have a different understanding, in terms of-- you know, what the word "marriage" should mean. And I-- a bunch of 'em are friends of mine-- you know, pastors and-- you know, people who-- I deeply respect.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-gay-marriage-i-support-it-and-support-states-banning-it_644324.html


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I know, right? He might as well have not said anything. Cant trust em May 2012 #1
Why do you think that? Do you also think an Executive Order banning discrimination is unimportant? Better Believe It May 2012 #2
I think your posting of anti-Democrat propaganda is unimportant. TheWraith May 2012 #5
+1 n/t FSogol May 2012 #30
That's the pattern, alright... Bobbie Jo May 2012 #42
And now the poster is no longer here. Rex May 2012 #131
ITA!!!!!!! mfcorey1 May 2012 #146
+1...nt SidDithers May 2012 #52
i know - it is so obvious arely staircase May 2012 #71
I think the Democratic party has become anti-democratic n/t leftstreet May 2012 #85
how is it anti - Democratic? paulk May 2012 #105
You could ask Skinner that, since DevonRex May 2012 #107
perhaps it was the source (weekly standard) paulk May 2012 #110
Ah, I see where the problem is... DevonRex May 2012 #115
i was wondering why it suddenly smells better in here! dionysus May 2012 #113
I feel like we're all in an Irish Spring commercial or something. DevonRex May 2012 #116
Yep, I feel fresher already! lillypaddle May 2012 #134
So, can Obama not be criticized? musical_soul May 2012 #129
So, pro-gay is automatically anti-Democrat now? Pab Sungenis May 2012 #139
It certainly has had no impact on your continuous bashing of him I see..... scheming daemons May 2012 #3
I swear, i would not be surprised that even if Obama had built BBI a new house from the ground up Bodhi BloodWave May 2012 #26
you got it! treestar May 2012 #77
Two articles from the Weekly Standard bluestateguy May 2012 #4
I know right? About the Weekly Standard SunsetDreams May 2012 #55
Jury results from an alert on the OP RZM May 2012 #6
Do you happen to know if TOS was checked? DevonRex May 2012 #68
You can alert again and check TOS... SidDithers May 2012 #69
I don't. Though I assume so n/t RZM May 2012 #81
You should throw in a link to Redstate or The Daily Caller while you're at it. Son of Gob May 2012 #7
Reverse Psychology. Could this really be the multiple dimensional chess game sabrina 1 May 2012 #8
Top GOP Pollster to GOP: Reverse On Gay Issues Tx4obama May 2012 #9
Wow, interesting, I had not seen that. sabrina 1 May 2012 #11
That memo came out in response to Obama's position, not as a position the Republican party... joshcryer May 2012 #15
Sabrina, really? DevonRex May 2012 #48
No, not really, but it's called 'calling their bluff'! And I see many ways in which that can sabrina 1 May 2012 #83
Attacking Obama for "not doing more" is a move right out of all Obama detractor's... joshcryer May 2012 #13
Yes it is. The RW play book DevonRex May 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author fascisthunter May 2012 #31
You miss the whole point. sabrina 1 May 2012 #82
The right is not standing up for gay rights. joshcryer May 2012 #121
Of course they are not. But they have been forced to pretend they are. sabrina 1 May 2012 #126
They are not pretending that they are, they are accusing Obama of not being "liberal enough." joshcryer May 2012 #130
The Weekly Standard is a right-wing rag rag n/t Tx4obama May 2012 #10
The Weekly Standard, edited by none other than William Kristol himself. joshcryer May 2012 #12
"If anyone posted a William Kristol article here they'd be PPR'd instantly." Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #16
So it was written, so it shall be done....nt msanthrope May 2012 #114
!!! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #125
And he posted TWO Weekly Standard Articles. Two of them. Using RW Bullshit DevonRex May 2012 #20
This poster throws up garbage regularly and he is still here?? Why is anyone's guess. It makes me Pisces May 2012 #35
Maybe it won't affect policy directly, but this Rachel Maddow video is must see... Cali_Democrat May 2012 #14
If this is "icing on the cake" what would signing a non-discrimination Executive Order be? Better Believe It May 2012 #37
You think the Weekly Standard gives a shit about LGBTQs? DevonRex May 2012 #43
What you said. cliffordu May 2012 #50
he is just doing his job nt arely staircase May 2012 #75
Ah, the right wants to draw another line in the sand jberryhill May 2012 #17
I'm SHOCKED that BBI would post RW articles to bash the President on marriage equality. DevonRex May 2012 #18
Shocked... SidDithers May 2012 #46
In ONE month posted all those RW sources? So BBI is a RWer? Who ELSE does that shit??? DevonRex May 2012 #63
Well, more like 6 weeks... SidDithers May 2012 #64
Hell yeah, that's beyond the pale. DevonRex May 2012 #66
Check out the Right Wingers promoting the World Net Daily in THIS thread: bvar22 May 2012 #72
Yeah, that's exactly what's going on in that thread... SidDithers May 2012 #73
Criticism from someone who will NOT be voting for Obama, bvar22 May 2012 #84
LBJ had his moments...and this was one of them...however cr8tvlde May 2012 #90
Or you could try this totally LAUGHABLE BBI PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT DevonRex May 2012 #76
That is a blatant falsehood strawman propaganda bit. joshcryer May 2012 #133
Serious question? Given that his announcement came only two days ago, how much..... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #19
No. DevonRex May 2012 #21
I can only think of one reason for this, and if it's as I suspect, Skinner is a....... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #22
Well, damn. DevonRex May 2012 #23
Get some rest, and you too can be shrewd like Skinner & me! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #25
BBI, truck nuts that large are counter-productive. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #27
LOL maddezmom May 2012 #33
It's amazing and hard to believe. Grateful for Hope May 2012 #41
sigh. of course it does. It's called a tipping point. And it's MARRIAGE EQUALITY cali May 2012 #28
I support gay marriage. Those who oppose gay marriage are bigots. Better Believe It May 2012 #39
Do you think the Weekly Standard folks support marriage equality? DevonRex May 2012 #44
yeah, like the editor of the RW you linked in your OP maddezmom May 2012 #54
bzzzt gigantic fail, sweetheart. cali May 2012 #60
yeah, you and bill kristol - fierce advocates nt arely staircase May 2012 #79
The Weekly Standard? If I want their opinion, or others like NRO - I go to a rightwing site salin May 2012 #29
His Declaration of Support has set many things in Motion fascisthunter May 2012 #32
t3 spanone May 2012 #34
More RW dumping from BBI. Bobbie Jo May 2012 #36
What, Stormfront mute on this issue? Ikonoklast May 2012 #38
Are you going to vote for the President? (not that you'll respond; I'm sure I'm on ignore) cali May 2012 #40
That's just me, too. DevonRex May 2012 #45
Right there with you on this, cali. cliffordu May 2012 #51
Um, did you miss the ENDA annoucement? That's why no EO........ msanthrope May 2012 #47
This train is NEVER late..... cliffordu May 2012 #49
I wished BBI would just fuck off with this rightwing crap. Swede May 2012 #53
You and about 20 other DUers in this thread... SidDithers May 2012 #56
that would be lovely- and sooner or later it will happen. cali May 2012 #61
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Now I am gonna wish for either world peace or a George Foreman grill. Swede May 2012 #138
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Never fear don't be bummed SunsetDreams May 2012 #137
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I bet all the stars SunsetDreams May 2012 #136
That rules! treestar May 2012 #80
I love the google! JoePhilly May 2012 #99
Um, BBI's gonna need that moved over to the GOP convention where he'll be hanging out... DevonRex May 2012 #104
How much right-wing bashing of Obama is too much right-wing bashing?... SidDithers May 2012 #59
I was wondering the same thing, Sid Grateful for Hope May 2012 #62
No kidding. zappaman May 2012 #78
It's a balance thing. Jakes Progress May 2012 #97
BBI: "I don't visit any right-wing websites like WND... SidDithers May 2012 #65
Nice find! SunsetDreams May 2012 #67
Nail in the coffin right there. Excellent find. joshcryer May 2012 #122
see your a weekly standard reader arely staircase May 2012 #70
I did not know Carnival was offering a Bruisin' Prism May 2012 #74
DING fucking DONG, BBI. DevonRex May 2012 #86
Seriously. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #96
Thank you Mr. Skinner! DevonRex May 2012 #87
What? You couldn't figure out how to link to Storm Front or Free Republic? 11 Bravo May 2012 #89
He did! Son of Gob May 2012 #91
I'm glad arrived in time to offer him/her a hearty farewell! 11 Bravo May 2012 #93
54 ignores! FSogol May 2012 #95
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ding dong cali May 2012 #92
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I don't think SunsetDreams May 2012 #102
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vaht? vas you say shumthing, about BBI being tombstoned... to meeeee? ... vaht? dionysus May 2012 #112
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sleep well, sweet, sweet Prince... dionysus May 2012 #111
Thank You Skinner! JimGinPA May 2012 #117
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Skinner, I owe you for this! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #120
THANK YOU, SKINNER!!! cliffordu May 2012 #123
FINALLY! Bobbie Jo May 2012 #127
Obama can't have it both ways. musical_soul May 2012 #128
why don't you stop the charade and admit you're going to vote third party in November book_worm May 2012 #132
Kick... SidDithers May 2012 #135
Sorry, I've been out of pocket for four days at a gay campground and returned to find this thread... Rowdyboy May 2012 #141
Ditto! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #142
Our long National nightmare is over..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #143
incredibly repugnant display of The Two Minute Hate in this thread inna May 2012 #144
at least Hannah got her tributes. no such thing on DU3; what a fucking waste. inna May 2012 #145
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