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herding cats

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137. The thing is we are in control our words and actions.

Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:21 PM

Jun 2015

Even when we choose not to exercise that control, it's still there. I don't do negative politics against other Democrats. It's not who I am, nor who I will ever be. So, I don't get a lot of what takes place on here. I admit I hide threads I think are only intended to be antagonistic. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. I'm just saying it doesn't appeal to me, personally. I may get mad a someone and act the jerk over an issue. OK, I DO get mad at people and act the jerk. But I usually regret it pretty fast and swallow my pride and apologize when I realize I'm being an ass. Even if I still don't agree with them on the point, being a jerk to someone isn't going to make them agree with me anytime soon.

This has been an odd experience here today. Heated debate is one thing, but calling a Democratic presidential candidate the C word isn't debate. It's petty and childish, and the sort of ugly thing we adults shamefully do on occasion, but should have have the decency to regret and apologize for almost instantly. People are upset for his choice and for the choice to ban him for it. I think both sides have valid points to an extent.

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So using hidden misogynic sexual vulgarities to express disagreements, according to some, should be [View all] still_one Jun 2015 OP

No. cwydro Jun 2015 #1

I am not sure about your first point. The shark might have been jumped still_one Jun 2015 #80

He had copied the words of a Troll so they would be seen once MIRT did their work. IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #2

He was anti-Clinton RobertEarl Jun 2015 #3

Who cares? She isn't the candidate yet, nor is Bernie, nor anyone else. IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #10

Exactly RobertEarl Jun 2015 #24

Uh, so what he's anti-Clinton? Is that against the rules now? LiberalElite Jun 2015 #31

I think so Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #34

This place is getting a little LiberalElite Jun 2015 #41

Yes, I am seeing that Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #46

Which forum are you in? There are far more anti-Hillary threads, and most are not even locked still_one Jun 2015 #85

sorry, not so still_one Jun 2015 #83

That was not the reason still_one Jun 2015 #81

Which was the main reason he was banned krawhitham Jun 2015 #127

Bull. No misreading. HERVEPA Jun 2015 #6

It's a spoonerism and he knew exactly what he was doing. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #8

I spoke with him - he was copying the troll so the words would be saved IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #17

Ah, so he was DEFENDING Hillary? That would be rather out of character, but I suppose anything is PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #21

LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #27

He was playing with a Troll. He copied the (now deleted) post. IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #28

Wrong. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jun 2015 #86

It sure appeared that he was agreeing with and laughing with the troll about the phrase. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #92

That should be easy to prove. herding cats Jun 2015 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jun 2015 #84

Thank you. This^ misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #33

It's more British than American. hifiguy Jun 2015 #69

All of us aren't Heavy Metal fans. Paka Jun 2015 #138

yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #141

Are references to Metallica bannable phil89 Jun 2015 #142

No, coy attempts at calling women cunts appears to be though. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #144

Bullshit. zappaman Jun 2015 #11

No - TRUTH. I spoke with him earlier. nt IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #19

Actually.... JTFrog Jun 2015 #45

I believe him. It also reads to me like Playing With A Troll. IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #50

No it doesn't. JTFrog Jun 2015 #53

No it doesn't. zappaman Jun 2015 #58

He "decoded" the spoonerism for these guys and they still flail around saying they don't see it. bettyellen Jun 2015 #63

Did he alert on that post? herding cats Jun 2015 #65

Well I don't believe him.. he's lying. Big surprise ..trying to weasel out of it now. Cha Jun 2015 #66

"And yes, it's a Cunning Stunt I say that to myself every day, over an over. It can be a tongue Cha Jun 2015 #71

I'm not an HRC fan but found some of his posts OTT. That said snagglepuss Jun 2015 #133

Lol, Ida he is playing you- he understood the slur- and laughed in agreement. So now he's lied to bettyellen Jun 2015 #52

Sigh. Or my long time friend, with no prior history of EVER using such language IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #55

How about reading the post and his reply/ where he agrees with the troll and clearly uses the bettyellen Jun 2015 #59

And capitalizing the two words just to make sure everyone knew what he was saying. zappaman Jun 2015 #61

You gotta love watching people twist into pretzels to play dumb bettyellen Jun 2015 #79

Clearly YOU are having a field day filled with oodles of Schadenfreude. It isn't pretty. Bonobo Jun 2015 #96

I truly enjoyed seeing someone zapped for using c*nt bettyellen Jun 2015 #109

Don't cha love it when people play dumb. No context, no history.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #20

I see your statement as accurate. glinda Jun 2015 #44

No, he just wasn't as clever as he thought he was. Cha Jun 2015 #57

Exactly. KMOD Jun 2015 #123

That's the way I saw it. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #70

Except that is not what happened. Here are the 2 posts. Not defending from a troll at all uppityperson Jun 2015 #89

Did you know Admin and the MIR team members can see banned troll's hidden posts? uppityperson Jun 2015 #106

And went on to say he says it to himself every day. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #107

And has joked about it in the past about Sarah and Todd Palin. uppityperson Jun 2015 #111

Huh. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #117

It is not moderated and therein is the problem. DURHAM D Jun 2015 #4

The problem is that there ISN'T a standard Scootaloo Jun 2015 #5

Agreed 100%. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #35

There was no reason to ban him. hifiguy Jun 2015 #7

All that doesn't mean diddly squat if it's someone from a certain Group. William769 Jun 2015 #9

Maybe some of this is attention seeking subject of the day bandwagon jumping GusBob Jun 2015 #12

I will tell you what nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #13

I haven't heard the word "kike" since the 80's. Saw it on multiple occasions today. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #75

I find it very hard to very hard to believe that anyone sufrommich Jun 2015 #78

this is not the K word nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #97

I might have made a mistake. the post that I could find was Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #104

Thanks - I wish the person claiming someone called Sanders a racist was as honest as you.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #131

That and the play (hidden) that this place has become nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #82

Sexual vulgarities are common and accepted on DU hack89 Jun 2015 #14

Very correct Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #40

No shit.... MicaelS Jun 2015 #47

Yes, the selective outrage Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #56

yeah, males compared to females have had it rough. From unequal pay, being treated and referred to still_one Jun 2015 #95

So I guess that makes it OK Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #99

there is NO comparison. Women are the discriminated party in 99% of gender issues, NOT men still_one Jun 2015 #120

Yes they can Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #122

What would you call this? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #15

Remember the Martin Bashir debate LittleBlue Jun 2015 #25

There was another Rude Pundit link posted where he called either Coulter or Bachmann "the word"... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #39

Selective enforcement Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #42

no doubt about it still_one Jun 2015 #100

We become free republic. That's who. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #16

yep - there has to be a line . . . he got caught crossing it DrDan Jun 2015 #18

I have yet to see a single DUer claiming that word is acceptable LittleBlue Jun 2015 #22

One strike and you're out is ridiculous. hifiguy Jun 2015 #26

Yep. By that standard many of us would be toast LittleBlue Jun 2015 #32

I was once attacked for being Asperger's after I disclosed it, hifiguy Jun 2015 #36

Jeez LittleBlue Jun 2015 #54

that was a really horrible attack on you steve2470 Jun 2015 #114

Any longtime DUer should have known better. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #72

That is correct. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #94

I can't help but wonder if the target of the ugly mysogynistic post had been... Spazito Jun 2015 #23

If someone had said that about Elizabeth Warren.. they wouldn't be calling to get the person back. Cha Jun 2015 #62

Yep, I suspect the response would be quite different... Spazito Jun 2015 #76

I know it would be. Double Standards, exactly. Cha Jun 2015 #77

A time out would have sufficed. I would feel the same if the male version were used. mother earth Jun 2015 #29

Hidden insults are common. joshcryer Jun 2015 #30

What's bothersome is the celebration. There's a bit more at play here, imho. The boards have been mother earth Jun 2015 #37

It's just sad. joshcryer Jun 2015 #73

Anyone seen Dick Cheney? Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #38

I think being reinstated should be possible. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #43

As someone who has been here a long time Texasgal Jun 2015 #51

Not a day goes by on DU that I don't remember 13 people banned in about 2 hours. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2015 #60

Thank you! Texasgal Jun 2015 #64

Yup, this place is rather hysterical at this point nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #68

Shoot, I remember when linking to hate sites was not allowed... demmiblue Jun 2015 #103

"I remember when linking to hate sites was not allowed...and then the admins created one." City Lights Jun 2015 #108

Some people get more 'pragmatic' as they age.. demmiblue Jun 2015 #125

What's this now? Gay purge? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #105

You haven't been here long enough to know the Texasgal Jun 2015 #116

I was thinking the same thing, Tex... especially in light of all these Rhythm Jun 2015 #140

If I said it I would expect to be PPRed. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #67

If it were said about Eliazbeth Warren.. they wouldn't be calling for him to come back. Cha Jun 2015 #74

You once called Hillary Clinton "morally depraved" Prism Jun 2015 #88

Interesting find...nt City Lights Jun 2015 #90

Comparing 2008 to now is endless entertainment Prism Jun 2015 #91

That find was a gem, for sure! City Lights Jun 2015 #98

I know several people who didn't support Hillary in 2008 who are now. herding cats Jun 2015 #110

Not gotcha, but an illustration Prism Jun 2015 #113

Exactly.. you didn't get me at all.. I don't mind.. someone already brought that post up to me.. Cha Jun 2015 #136

The thing is we are in control our words and actions. herding cats Jun 2015 #137

And, turns out he wasn't the only one who brought that post up to me..and I talked about it here.. Cha Jun 2015 #134

Cha, I'm stil on the fence so far. herding cats Jun 2015 #139

Of course we'll still be friends.. I'm friendly with the Bernie Supporters who are calling out the Cha Jun 2015 #143

So? I've already talked about that here.. And, if you think "morally depraved" is the same as.. Cha Jun 2015 #129

Then why is racist crap still standing w/o even a hide after approximately 3 alerts? I don't get it lonestarnot Jun 2015 #87

I actually DO think that one's entire history here should be considered. Bonobo Jun 2015 #93

I have to respectfully disagree ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #101

I do think the jury system has brought down the standards of DU. I refuse to serve on it because it still_one Jun 2015 #112

Rule of thumb: when dealing with long-time posters MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #102

How many old timers became bug goo on the windshield the last time? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #121

My personal opinion: A lot of people are making the banning of someone too complicated. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #115

As you said, the admins are fair and forgiving Renew Deal Jun 2015 #118

Can someone please explain something to me? StevieM Jun 2015 #119

I especially like the one where they are getting prayers.... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #124

I don't care about the punishment he got. Quackers Jun 2015 #126

yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #130

He didn't use the word, it was a "spoonerism" which means it was judged his intent was to use the mother earth Jun 2015 #132

So insinuating a word should carry a harsher punishment than saying the word itself? nt Quackers Jun 2015 #135

Google reveals there are 1,180 posts with that word on DU. jeff47 Jun 2015 #128

So today is the day a standard was set, eh? ScreamingMeemie Jun 2015 #145

locking.. one_voice Jun 2015 #146