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In reply to the discussion: Sorry folks there is disability fraud [View all]haele
(15,131 posts)I'm curious.
These are two different animals, and if you're collecting Worker's Comp, the enforcement mechanism is different across the states. Some states don't even check; they leave it up to a snitch or the employer of the worker who claimed the disability to make a case for fraud.
I suspect if they've been able to continue to collect since the 1990's,
1) either both of them were far worse off back in the early 2000's when they went through a review (the Bush years were brutal on SSDI),and through diet, exercise, and "clean living", may have made enough of a recovery that it's just fun money at this point in time (so when they come up for their 20 year review, they'll be audited, kicked off, and charged for "back payments", or
2) they're on Worker's Compensation, and y'all are in a state that doesn't enforce Worker's Compensation fraud once it's awarded.
Now, If they were collecting a pension-based disability (VA, Railroad Workers, or some other Union-based), then they may appear to be committing fraud or may be joking about it, but they aren't committing fraud because that disability is a benefit based on their being able to work at a career and still be able to perform all the tasking (physical or mental) that would a typical employment path until they got to the age of retirement.
As part of a pension-based disability benefit, it is not legally considered fraud to be "medically released" from a career in which you and the employer made an investment, get a disability compensation due to that injury or condition, and then begin a new job in another field.
Even though it may look like fraud, and frost the hell out of people who are still hanging on through stress and pain because they don't think they're bad off enough to need to go on Worker's Comp or SSDI.
I'm actually trying to discuss this seriously, even though I do understand you feel personally insulted by these scammers and fraudsters.
I'm not, because I've seen a lot of different sides to this, and frankly, assholes like this would cause more damage through screwing their employers and f'ing up a work environment - potentially causing injury to their fellow workers and ruining legitimate jobs as being a worse impact to my world than any affront they could give me. They're a petty distraction from the very real goal of helping people who are really hurting in the grand scheme of things. They're nothing but the scummy sea-foam that comes in on the waves of the ocean.
My opinion - If they're that venal and potentially destructive, pay them a little bit of money to free-ride off of so that they will just go away. It's less damage to a community and better people who want to do work and pay their dues.
Haele