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278. it's the interpretation

Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:49 PM

Jun 2015

"I am not one of those weak women" was NOT, in my view, written to attack other women as weak. It was pre-emptive. It was a DEFENSE against an expected argument like "you are not ready to goto battle over the C-word? Then you are weak."

As I am reading this subthread I am seeing a lot of "I read that as an attack".

Whether the "misinterpretation" is deliberate or even a misinterpretation. Accusation and counter-accusation, tone of mutual hostility.

It should be a relatively simple matter if one person says "phrase X" and somebody comes back with "you just said phrase Y" to sort of calmly explain what was meant by phrase X. Language is apparently open to interpretation. Like this exchange that I read just yesterday. First, I was accused of saying something and I denied it, tried to clarify it, finally I get the reply "just say what you mean" which I found to be puzzling because I am quite sure I WAS saying what I meant. But so it goes. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6727266

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The latest "banning" (NYC_SKP) is an interesting lesson on REPUTATION. [View all] IdaBriggs Jun 2015 OP

It is my understanding a banned DUer can approach the Admins to request reinstatement. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #1

At least he's allowed to grovel. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #246

I doubt seriously if an admin would consider a reversal if the banned subject makes no request. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #248

It's likely he's a teachable moment Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #270

If you're right about the admins, then they're being too narrow. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #367

I disagree completely with that. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #382

To me, this is a little like begging... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #442

It matters not if the whole of DU petitions on his behalf. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #454

So, he should feel remorse for saying something that did not warrant same? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #456

What he said absolutely deserved the ban hammer. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #473

That means that you accuse me of the same misogyny by my statement now? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #551

You are so right Long Drive Jun 2015 #592

No he did not, and a vast majority of the WOMEN here on DU do not agree with this at all. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #621

Ye, he did, and you're just making shit up. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #624

I agree with you, NYC will never ask to get back in, akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #494

I think you pretty well hit the nail, akbacchus... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #552

Where we differ is that I see grounds for contrition on both sides. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #497

I agree with you. A huge majority of members here are opposed to this banning. Regardless of the sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #430

I thought it was pretty funny, bvar22 Jun 2015 #675

I remember writing directly to the owners about some guys who posted that they roguevalley Jun 2015 #299

NYC did not use that word. Just wanted to make that clear. Otherwise good post. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #447

Good question! Petrushka Jun 2015 #506

Thank you. I've been thinking the same thing. LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #513

I have seen worse posts from a few members over the years, which have resulted in a hide, but not an R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #520

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2 million % sabrina 1. I sort of think this is a one party roguevalley Jun 2015 #577

You nailed it right on the head Sabrina. And i believe you answered your own question. 2banon Jun 2015 #595

I have the same exact question Aerows Jun 2015 #598

So what if the Admin support Hillary? It's their board.. they initiated it and kept it up and Cha Jun 2015 #597

I expected a reply because I know I wasn't the only one who wrote roguevalley Jun 2015 #626

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2015 #2

By clicking here you have read and understand and agree to the terms of service GusBob Jun 2015 #3

True enough, but misses the point by a country mile tkmorris Jun 2015 #7

from the op GusBob Jun 2015 #12

Do I need to edit for clarification? I was referring IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #21

A harsh reality of life. Bad judgment coupled with pissing off the wrong person: everything changes Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #39

Now, again, please type onto DU the exact wording of NYC_SKP's post and the post before it JDPriestly Jun 2015 #164

You were doing so well until this: Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #190

A lot more patient than in the past... Rhythm Jun 2015 #208

I was one of the purged. Banned for one thread that didn't violate the TOS. dbackjon Jun 2015 #232

7 QC Jun 2015 #265

I remember 2008 enigmatic Jun 2015 #268

-Yep. Notice how many of the nastiest primary warriors of 2007-8 QC Jun 2015 #273

Agreed enigmatic Jun 2015 #276

Amazing, isn't it? It makes you seriously wonder about people. How they can totally change overnight sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #569

I used to tell people things I learned at DU and they would say, QC Jun 2015 #571

And from all indications pecwae Jun 2015 #579

I think you have captured this place perfectly Egnever Jun 2015 #581

For some here, it's not really about issues, politicians, the party, or even politics enigmatic Jun 2015 #591

What you said nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #593

Like I said, it's a game for some here enigmatic Jun 2015 #594

I left due to antisemitism nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #596

Nadin Aerows Jun 2015 #603

This is the post Aerows Jun 2015 #600

Check this one out! QC Jun 2015 #601

Sad Aerows Jun 2015 #605

That is probably the most bizarre and unexpected reversals I have seen on DU. Bonobo Jun 2015 #609

Odd, isn't it Aerows Jun 2015 #611

It goes beyond odd into the realm of something else. Bonobo Jun 2015 #613

That's why I really do urge those who may have joined after 2008 to check the DU2 archives enigmatic Jun 2015 #614

OMG, LOOK AT THIS ONE! Bonobo Jun 2015 #620

Kinda makes what we have now look like a church lady group. L0oniX Jun 2015 #667

That's interesting. SixString Jun 2015 #674

yep enigmatic Jun 2015 #607

That was one of many in 2008 enigmatic Jun 2015 #606

"and this place still hasn't recovered from it" SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #428

Note that my post-count hasn't gotten above 6000 yet... Rhythm Jun 2015 #462

I've got you beat! ladyVet Jun 2015 #583

That's one of the reasons why I prefer unmoderated forums. There's less inequality and selective Chathamization Jun 2015 #584

. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #344

! QC Jun 2015 #355

VII Rhythm Jun 2015 #544

I was banned from two groups in two weeks, both were the same subject,, orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #362

NY SKIP always treated me nicely here. Even when others were Maraya1969 Jun 2015 #285

You speak for me, thanks. n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #406

Well said! Aerows Jun 2015 #608

If people stopped answering my comments, I'd shut up. I just feel like I have to respond to all the JDPriestly Jun 2015 #369

+1000 SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #435

Well said. LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #532

Well stated Aerows Jun 2015 #610

+1000. bbgrunt Jun 2015 #197

There is no "polite way of saying the same thing okasha Jun 2015 #210

I could probably think of a dozen polite ways to convey the same meaning. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #230

Really? Do you think you could also think up a dozen polite ways okasha Jun 2015 #256

Not often I want to rec one of your posts. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #396

Thankee. okasha Jun 2015 #397

When you're right you're right. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #417

Nail meet hammer. nt snagglepuss Jun 2015 #297

Using the c word just allows us all to plainly boston bean Jun 2015 #343

Please show me where NYC_SKP used the "C" word. Please. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #359

That's what you want to hang your hat on to boston bean Jun 2015 #376

He did not use the word. and his post is taken out of context. But as I said, I am not answering JDPriestly Jun 2015 #401

Seriously? skepticscott Jun 2015 #512

I agree marym625 Jun 2015 #409

That word is demeaning to women. There are a thousand more clever, hidden ways to demean women. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #372

Then maybe accept there are many women boston bean Jun 2015 #377

Its not that the word is demeaning to women, its that the user is demeaning women with that word... marble falls Jun 2015 #524

A-fucking-agreed! Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 #333

Thanks. It would never occur to me to talk or write certain words, but as I said in another post, JDPriestly Jun 2015 #366

Word are not just words. They are representative of boston bean Jun 2015 #378

On that we agree, but poor judgment is a character trait that many have. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #400

I guess we had hoped that a progressive Dem forum would not be uncaring as to simply throw people sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #172

'wiped out for one post interpreted the wrong way' - yes. closeupready Jun 2015 #243

Says the person who congregate with the Cave Dwellers! You akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #498

I find your OP an extremely worthwhile read even as I disagree with you here in general stevenleser Jun 2015 #570

Please post in precise and verbatim terms NYC_SKP's prohibited post and the post before it. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #151

Here: JTFrog Jun 2015 #233

No use of the "c" word. No mention of Hillary in NYC_SKP's post. I can understand removing JDPriestly Jun 2015 #250

I think the intent was clear. JTFrog Jun 2015 #267

The intent might just be the way you take it passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #301

You've been taken aback by the strong push by the forum admins to support a Democratic Presidential JTFrog Jun 2015 #304

Yes, I have been passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #307

"Her strong points (according to her history) are being a woman..." JTFrog Jun 2015 #309

I am a woman and don't think it's sexist to be called one passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #317

Sigh. JTFrog Jun 2015 #327

I've also repeatedly said here passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #332

Your perception of the truth. JTFrog Jun 2015 #341

I think I explained why I consider her gender to be one of her strongest points passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #363

You don't think that being a woman is a strong point? I consider it to be as strong a point as sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #586

Well that's an interesting spin. JTFrog Jun 2015 #587

yes one above the others Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #536

Who do you think 'she' is that SKP's new pal was referencing? MADem Jun 2015 #306

What? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #345

Yup, that was it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #354

yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #537

Hmmm...no Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #216

There's always Discussionist...people who hate not being allowed to make MADem Jun 2015 #312

If you find SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #349

Pathetic how the censorship brigade always hides behind that. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #429

It is pathetic. LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #535

I so agree Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #538

Then why do so many people here get to stay after many violations? Either the rules apply to sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #452

we never seem to agree Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #540

amen -- thanks for taking the time to write this! nashville_brook Jun 2015 #4

I will agree, DU is at it's worst, but I presume we have different reasons as to why that is. boston bean Jun 2015 #8

please...give it a rest with the misogyny. everyone knows that's not what's at issue here. nashville_brook Jun 2015 #11

It's obviously just an attempt to silence Sanders supporters. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #17

banned for a tone complaint on a spoonerism. nashville_brook Jun 2015 #22

And pro-2nd Amendment types, too! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #67

oh yes Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #542

That was bit OTT, Rude, Nasty, Snarky.. yet it seems ok to the community here. 2banon Jun 2015 #194

Oh, snap! okasha Jun 2015 #215

Thanks for proving my point. nt boston bean Jun 2015 #37

If that is considered evidence of misogyny in your mind, that proves you have no idea what that 2banon Jun 2015 #157

amen -- how can we expect problems of REAL misogyny to be taken seriously nashville_brook Jun 2015 #288

Really?...Then can you tell us just what IS at issue here? whathehell Jun 2015 #103

gladly -- the poster was judged by a separate and unequal standard than an HRC supporter nashville_brook Jun 2015 #295

I'm a Bernie supporter too, but I'm not sure you really know he was judged for not supporting HRC whathehell Jun 2015 #353

This is not surprising though nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #437

yes we all know what it is about Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #541

"Everyone?" Adrahil Jun 2015 #555

Women are NOT overreacting, some women are, the majority of women here are sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #71

I deeply resent you speaking for me. I will speak as a woman. I've never met boston bean Jun 2015 #84

You have spoken for 'women' and I am stating the fact that you speak ONLY for yourself. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #132

Don't tell me who I can and can't speak for. boston bean Jun 2015 #146

And another personal attack! Stop speaking for me, that is what you were asked to do, sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #156

What exactly is my personal attack. My pointing out that you writing that you are not boston bean Jun 2015 #167

it's the interpretation hfojvt Jun 2015 #278

I read it just fine without a circular interpretation. boston bean Jun 2015 #287

Personal attack? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #316

Were you talking to me? sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #322

Well, I responded to your post... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #335

No, actually, you responded to what you believe is important. Nothing in my post was addressed by sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #368

No, I responded to your accusation of "another personal insult." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #381

Trivia, again you prove my point. Comments on the internet, I am repeating this because you seem to sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #391

Ah, I see: falsely accusing another DU member is "trivia." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #416

As I said, internet chit chat doesn't help women who have real issues. And another example of the sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #420

No, it's NOT an example of the point you made (obviously). Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #432

Sabrina, make a poll BainsBane Jun 2015 #390

Why on earth would I want to do that? No one was called that word. And frankly, here is what I am, sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #395

"Real issues' BainsBane Jun 2015 #410

I'm sorry that you find me more worthy of interest than the real issues facing women today. Your sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #414

"It is not a forum that is known for its support of women" BainsBane Jun 2015 #495

Nailed it. bettyellen Jun 2015 #463

Can I add Mexican women to the list? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #424

Yes, and women in all war torn areas of the world, where rape and abuse and death and poverty sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #425

Well I have been covering the story of Nestora Salgado nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #427

Well, you care and I care, and lots of DUers do care, but my point was that the women's forums here sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #440

Well we could TRY to start those conversations nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #443

What personal attack? Why are you defaming DUers with this bullshit? bettyellen Jun 2015 #465

The "L'etat c'est moi" dilemma of DU Prism Jun 2015 #188

so JackInGreen Jun 2015 #200

Thank you, good post. I agree that women are attacked here constantly for not sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #223

I've been an admirer of your posts since 2008 enigmatic Jun 2015 #272

No, people speak for themselves BainsBane Jun 2015 #389

"What you really mean to say is"... Bonobo Jun 2015 #394

I admire your ability to hallucinate exchanges out of thin air Prism Jun 2015 #516

Thank you, you have saved me the trouble of responding to a similar post that was directed to my sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #545

Consider them our Bizarro characters Prism Jun 2015 #631

Lol, that's a good way of putting it! Sort of like an imaginary friend! Or maybe, and imaginary sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #632

Well done. pacalo Jun 2015 #588

Once again, you have skewered the real issue magnificently! Bravo! nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #393

Exactly. I have never put anyone on ignore, and with rare exceptions have generally been willing to sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #491

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #470

yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #471

Thank you Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #543

Gods, Sabrina, pecwae Jun 2015 #133

You're not the only one pecwae, from what I have been hearing from other women here for a long time sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #152

sabrina, you are one of DU's gems hifiguy Jun 2015 #169

Yes, she is. madfloridian Jun 2015 #261

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #315

Amen to that! n/t markpkessinger Jun 2015 #339

Nope, she's not the only one. notadmblnd Jun 2015 #269

Hear! Here! Well Said! 2banon Jun 2015 #599

Amen, Sistah! dorkzilla Jun 2015 #364

You are right on! catchnrelease Jun 2015 #375

Sabrina 1 LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #503

Brava! Petrushka Jun 2015 #510

...! KoKo Jun 2015 #529

I feel the same way... unapatriciated Jun 2015 #580

You go, girl! pacalo Jun 2015 #589

Many folks are tired of the bullshit nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #472

Excellent post and says it exactly the way it is. There are a few on DU that A Simple Game Jun 2015 #159

Thank you. In many ways it is the fault of women like me and so many others who told me they feel sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #166

Why is it weak to stand up against slurs? Are just women weak when they say it's unacceptable or is seaglass Jun 2015 #227

THIS topic is about women. To react to every little perceived slur, 'perceived' is the operative sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #240

This topic is about NYC_SKP getting banned but I get it if you don't want to expand your theory seaglass Jun 2015 #271

No, you don't get it, you don't get it at all. The game of using women for political purposes is sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #329

The men and women in my life think calling a women a c*nt is disgusting and directly relates seaglass Jun 2015 #373

Actually (and I will risk a ban, an alert, what have you) nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #474

Many people, men, women, Bernie supporters, Hillary supporters, uncommitted do know what that seaglass Jun 2015 #548

You know what nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #572

I'm finding it kind of naive that someone who is a journalist R B Garr Jun 2015 #623

It is two camps nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #629

Hmm, I'm seeing it more of a common sense issue rather than two camps. R B Garr Jun 2015 #630

You know Nadin, I've never been a big fan of yours- but I really got to give it to you here notadmblnd Jun 2015 #625

...^ that 840high Jun 2015 #251

+1 nt snagglepuss Jun 2015 #296

Speaking in the imperial "we' is supposed to lend gravitas or something. hifiguy Jun 2015 #338

+1 nt rbnyc Jun 2015 #478

.... madfloridian Jun 2015 #486

Very well said. Witnessing this is not my idea of how a liberal forum or group of any kind, should sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #5

...! KoKo Jun 2015 #173

sabrina and Ida, you are real life heroes. thank you. bbgrunt Jun 2015 #209

Amen. 840high Jun 2015 #253

There's always Discussionist. MADem Jun 2015 #314

How many times are you going to use that line? Flying Squirrel Jun 2015 #637

You are not a hostage. You are not a victim. You have options. MADem Jun 2015 #638

"DU is supposed to be fun - don't make it suck." Flying Squirrel Jun 2015 #639

Yes-- he and the troll were "having a little fun" by using a spoonerism to MADem Jun 2015 #641

Thank you, sabrina 1 Thespian2 Jun 2015 #371

Cruelty. Bonobo Jun 2015 #398

Yes, it is cruel. It's been an eye-opening situation though and sometimes we need to stop thinking sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #404

I agree with everything you said. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #480

What does this mean about the reputation of DU "if it could happen to him over ONE POST then it leveymg Jun 2015 #6

what does this mean about the reputation of DU? carolinayellowdog Jun 2015 #18

The 'bad word' he used was 'Cunning stunt". Frankly. I think the misogynistic police are absurd. peacebird Jun 2015 #35

this 56 year old woman agrees with you. n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #77

As a 60 yr old woman I also agree. glinda Jun 2015 #99

As a 70 yr old woman I absolutely agree with you. nenagh Jun 2015 #130

This 80-year-old woman agrees. Thirties Child Jun 2015 #217

And this 66 year old woman agrees with you all GCP Jun 2015 #280

This (nearly) 50 year old woman echoes that... dorkzilla Jun 2015 #352

63 and agree. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #358

another 63 yr old woman who agrees that banning was an over reaction unapatriciated Jun 2015 #582

I followed links for two posts this a.m. using the very same language mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #111

IOKITAR SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #539

I agree yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #124

I was warned once (or twice) about usage. JohnnyRingo Jun 2015 #128

It is the hypersensitive language police hifiguy Jun 2015 #178

Yes indeed GCP Jun 2015 #281

Same here, hifiguy. pacalo Jun 2015 #374

Worst because they get away nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #575

50 on the dot and agree as well. n/t MelissaB Jun 2015 #131

This 59 year old woman also agrees with you. 1monster Jun 2015 #140

Agree. Hiraeth Jun 2015 #141

Me, too. 68 year old woman. Shrike47 Jun 2015 #205

This woman agrees with you also. I am happy to see so many women speaking out finally about the sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #218

Editing reminder: the first word in that phrase has two syllables, not one. Obviously you know tblue37 Jun 2015 #244

The alert on 'two words, one syllable each' was a different alert. I mentioned it to highlight the peacebird Jun 2015 #283

Ah, I see. Sorry. I just didn't want to see you jumped all over for something insignificant. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #293

I appreciate it! Thank you very much! peacebird Jun 2015 #294

This DU Woman agrees with you also. n/t KoKo Jun 2015 #257

Yet they have been allowed to hifiguy Jun 2015 #340

Same goes for this 61 year old woman! Pastiche423 Jun 2015 #370

I have been smeared by them as being a misogynist. Bonobo Jun 2015 #399

Your post was alerted on, and here are the results: CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #483

I actually think I am being alert stalked now. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #505

It means you've made an impact. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #509

I agree with juror #4 Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #565

"Normal women" JTFrog Jun 2015 #549

Judging by the posts in this OP and subthread, it is clearly long since past the time Bonobo Jun 2015 #550

Is it fear that makes you reply to an individual as "some of you" JTFrog Jun 2015 #553

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. Bonobo Jun 2015 #554

I am speaking only for myself. JTFrog Jun 2015 #559

Do you think the women of DU appreciate your HOF group? Bonobo Jun 2015 #561

I edited. JTFrog Jun 2015 #562

Great. So let me say for myself at least. Bonobo Jun 2015 #563

Agreed, and the hypersensitivity police really needs to look in the mirror nt nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #475

The responses to this post are breathtaking Egnever Jun 2015 #488

I was sure I would be alerted on and hidden. SO amazed and relieved to see the responses here! peacebird Jun 2015 #517

He gave people who wanted him gone a weakness they could exploit. haele Jun 2015 #668

"I think the misogynistic police are absurd." NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #682

m, I was a tough Clinton critic on this board since the early years - no one ever blm Jun 2015 #112

Same here, and thanks for all you do here. leveymg Jun 2015 #123

...! KoKo Jun 2015 #175

That's exactly how people are perceiving it, right or wrong, people are wondering if being a critic sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #258

Of course it is! Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #433

Well I think we need clarification on this. I certainly don't want to waste time on a site that is sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #450

Right you are about ageism. (And other "isms.") SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #533

The guy routinely engaged in vicious personal insult. MADem Jun 2015 #9

"vicious personal insult" goes on all day long... beevul Jun 2015 #282

What are you saying? MADem Jun 2015 #303

I'm saying that yours is not the only opinion, hereabouts. beevul Jun 2015 #384

I hardly find a post facto defense dispositive. MADem Jun 2015 #469

Ask me about it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #476

I don't subscribe to a "Two wrongs make a right" POV. MADem Jun 2015 #485

I notified the owner of the site nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #487

My experience of the admins is that they do a good job dealing with MADem Jun 2015 #489

I believe the jury system at this point is unethical nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #490

Well, you have every right to your opinion. I just don't share it. nt MADem Jun 2015 #493

No, he did not. And this was NOT a 'misogynist' attack on anyone. And if that is why this happened sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #534

Yes, this nonsense DOES need to stop. MADem Jun 2015 #573

I oppose the ban but there is nothing liberal about calling a woman a c--t... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #10

I've yet to see the post where NYC_SKP wrote that. Octafish Jun 2015 #29

I am being 100% candid. Of course you can think I'm not being candid but I really am... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #36

I did not say that, though. I asked where is the post? Octafish Jun 2015 #49

I know you didn't, Octafish. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #57

Here's the exchange. snagglepuss Jun 2015 #98

EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THE ABOVE ^^^ - SKIP'S ACTUAL EXCHANGE OF WORDS leveymg Jun 2015 #127

Thanks for that! MelissaB Jun 2015 #135

Agree....... KoKo Jun 2015 #186

Thank you, snagglepuss. and. wow. Hiraeth Jun 2015 #158

I had not seen this exchange.... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #162

I have used that style of exchange with trolls, too. blm Jun 2015 #196

I agree. blm Jun 2015 #174

Absolutely nothing in that post hifiguy Jun 2015 #185

Or a Sanders supporter was greeting a fellow Sanders supporter, Orrex Jun 2015 #262

+1000 nt MADem Jun 2015 #318

Thank you!!! nt shanine Jun 2015 #203

I'm amazed a long time, heavily participating, member got banned for that Babel_17 Jun 2015 #213

Thank you, snagglepuss. You are absolutely correct. Octafish Jun 2015 #292

that's what all the hub bub is about? neverforget Jun 2015 #337

It's the Holder Doctrine applied to DU. nt OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #492

THAT IS NOT QUITE RIGHT. "Feel the Bern." was the troll's name, NOT what they wrote uppityperson Jun 2015 #602

That's what baffles me about this whole thing. Orrex Jun 2015 #122

Google search reveals that word is in 1,180 posts on DU. jeff47 Jun 2015 #170

So the actual word has been used in 1,180 posts on DU, and allowed to remain without deletion? 2banon Jun 2015 #204

Not quite. Searching for a word pulls up not just the post with the word, but often posts on either uppityperson Jun 2015 #604

I agree that that's odd. Those posts should have been hidden. Orrex Jun 2015 #206

I would like to think I would be similarly offended if he wrote that about somebody I didn't like. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #222

As I've noted elsewhere, if that remark had been aimed at Liz Warren, MADem Jun 2015 #320

Exactly and undeniably correct! (nt) Orrex Jun 2015 #426

So you believe that people's reaction depends on their position in the nomination fight. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #496

Yes. I do believe that many who are minimizing would be pitching a fit MADem Jun 2015 #500

But do you believe it also works the other way? Jim Lane Jun 2015 #523

We'd have to see that happen for me to say. MADem Jun 2015 #525

Could you point me to the post? MH1 Jun 2015 #58

All I can say is I knew immediately what he was referring to and googled "Cunning Stunt'" verbatim DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #66

Here's the exchange snagglepuss Jun 2015 #201

See Snagglepuss's #98 post above. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2015 #515

Yeah, saw that. I think Snagglepuss is probably right. MH1 Jun 2015 #521

Thank you. I feel the same and I can't help but wonder if those up in arms about the banning whathehell Jun 2015 #114

This whole speech is so very opposite of SKP's own views regarding provocative speech made by Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #13

Folks need to find a set of principles and stick to them even when it's inconvenient./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #15

A Fair Point ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #20

So the guy who was most adament that all insulting speech should be met with strong reaction is also Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #46

one can be punished for using or implying insulting speech magical thyme Jun 2015 #83

NYC_SKP didn't think so. trotsky Jun 2015 #153

agree or disagree w/NYC_SKP, the board's owners have the right to banish, but that doesn't make it magical thyme Jun 2015 #198

Key three letters in your post: "imo." trotsky Jun 2015 #247

That is the default objection whenever a popular member gets the boot. Orrex Jun 2015 #260

Wouldn't that be "too big to ban," so to speak? nt kjones Jun 2015 #415

Care to speak to NYC_SKP's clearly stated views about those who employ insulting or provocative Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #519

This is a discussion board. All members are entitled to discuss their opinions. magical thyme Jun 2015 #590

Like I Said, It's A Fair Point ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #252

You win the thread, Bluenorthwest. trotsky Jun 2015 #147

I am an artist and I had a long spate of being threatened by racists who were offended at some Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #302

Ever been on prednisone? blm Jun 2015 #163

Yes. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #171

Not talking about the pain - talking about the side-effects. Also... blm Jun 2015 #189

How is this not as obvious hifiguy Jun 2015 #284

heheh…beats me….. blm Jun 2015 #323

He wasn't "mirroring" the post. zappaman Jun 2015 #379

The exchange, to me, sounds more directed at the troll. I think he made a poor choice blm Jun 2015 #528

Is he claiming that his huge hypocrisy is symptomatic? No, you are and you do so as a way to avoid Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #357

I have no strong feelings one way or the other about SKP. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #14

My thread on this topic sunk like a stone. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #16

To me there is a double standard here. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #102

Slightly off topic FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #19

People who use a slur toward others are to blame for that, the target of the slur is not to blame. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #23

should all "divisive" posters be banned? nashville_brook Jun 2015 #24

Is that what I said? No it's not. Why not address what I said? Too much for you? Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #32

The vitriol is par for the course. Every time. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #28

I like folks who evoke strong passion DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #30

hmmm, this is just like blaming the vicitm Sheepshank Jun 2015 #41

Exactly. The divide here falls among those who will excuse sexism in all forms... bettyellen Jun 2015 #61

Wait ... what? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #74

This is like blaming Obama for being "divisive." The people blaming him for tblue37 Jun 2015 #259

Bull. Shit. okasha Jun 2015 #274

Hillary made someone insult her with a sexist slur? WTF? Victim blame much? uppityperson Jun 2015 #313

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #25

Thank you, IdaBriggs. Octafish Jun 2015 #26

Actually, we have the time and we can afford it. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #34

Thank you for your 2 cents, Buzz Clik. Octafish Jun 2015 #51

In your example... tkmorris Jun 2015 #78

Will NYC_SKP be missed? Will his absence be noticed? Yes to both. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #107

No, people will remember this Flying Squirrel Jun 2015 #110

There are two really important points here (since we changed the subject slightly): Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #121

Given that on the larger scale this place is meaningless anyway, the same is true of anyone Fumesucker Jun 2015 #118

Sexists aren't progressive. nt. LexVegas Jun 2015 #27

I hope all of this nonsense only reiterates to the Admin giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #31

Said banned poster is full of unbridled hate. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #33

"Hate" is a bit harsh, but, most recently, he certainly had little regard for his targets. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #38

Hate is a strong word and I probably shouldn't have used it. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #42

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Great post Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #40

This is a simple but excellent point RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #94

As always nichomachus Jun 2015 #148

Interesting points.... KoKo Jun 2015 #546

There is more to this site nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #231

I know what your referring to Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #263

Has not one bit to do with the cliques nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #387

Might as well ban everybody, though Aerows Jun 2015 #385

Jesus! That was fucking beautiful! Pithy and wise and piercingly true. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #403

Yep. I guess the site's got enough eyeballs on ads that they can tell users to get lost. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #434

If you understand web advertising and page views. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #457

True enough. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #461

Adblock and click to flash as well. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #464

uBlock is less of a resource hog than Adblock. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #467

Thanks! Im using "little snitch" too it's a good utility...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #468

Yikes! SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #547

So very well said! marym625 Jun 2015 #43

I find the "grave dancing" incredibly sad too. And it pisses me off. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #319

Once a DUer's post count has risen past a certain figure, MineralMan Jun 2015 #44

Valid point. I have also seen people talk about him being abusive IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #45

He espoused very clear views about people who use insulting or denigrating Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #56

"We remember what we want to remember" MineralMan Jun 2015 #59

Like so many others on DU, I have never found it difficult to refrain from attacking tblue37 Jun 2015 #264

JFC, he's not the first long-timer with lots of friends and non-friends here to get the ban hammer. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #47

+1 n/t tammywammy Jun 2015 #115

Is it inevitable? kentuck Jun 2015 #48

There are certain people here who will never be banned, hifiguy Jun 2015 #346

Bwah-HAH!1 I'm only here for being inconsequential!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #412

If one of my very good friends came to a party at my house and called Obama an N-word alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #50

The OP is trying to claim that NYCS was defending Hillary's honor from a troll or something. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #69

To clarify, he was PLAYING with a Troll. IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #91

"I say that to myself every day, over an over." PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #108

The actual exchange makes it pretty damn clear... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #236

"I say that to myself every day, over an over." PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #249

I think it was an obtuse, ill-considered bit of satire. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #254

It doesn't read like that at ALL. MADem Jun 2015 #325

1,180 uses of that word were allowed to stand. jeff47 Jun 2015 #183

Oh well alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #245

Your post has been on my mind all day (and I have had to peek IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #482

You say it was a alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #527

YEP. DU3 brought into existence an easy way to posters to track each other Rex Jun 2015 #52

You nailed it. Nailed. it. big. time. Bonobo Jun 2015 #405

There's a shrill handful of members who stalk others. closeupready Jun 2015 #53

Careful, you will attract a following with that line of thinking. Rex Jun 2015 #60

"best not to engage them at all" - bingo; ergo, ignore comes closeupready Jun 2015 #75

Cheers. Rex Jun 2015 #76

Meh...I've been here 10 years as a_m alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #62

SKP didn't have repeat hides in a short period, just one hide then a ban. Rex Jun 2015 #70

It seems that no matter how innocuos of a post I make Horse with no Name Jun 2015 #100

People who live personally frustrating lives ... closeupready Jun 2015 #113

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID SUCH AN OFFENSIVE THING!!! jeff47 Jun 2015 #187

I see what you did there Horse with no Name Jun 2015 #195

Ha, know the feeling. madfloridian Jun 2015 #219

The pile ons are by design my friend nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #413

well honestly after this last year Horse with no Name Jun 2015 #418

Very true nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #419

Well after realizing what it meant to be literally silenced and not just figuratively silenced Horse with no Name Jun 2015 #422

There is that too nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #423

The weak can never forgive. Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #54

We must not be inflexible in our ability to change our own opinion either. Rex Jun 2015 #63

....! KoKo Jun 2015 #92

Ida--good post. Here's what I tried to post three different times, but BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #55

nailed my feelings on this perfectly! Kali Jun 2015 #241

+1. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #266

I was banned once a long time ago. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #64

In forum moderation... sendero Jun 2015 #95

Civility doesn't come from banning. Gregorian Jun 2015 #125

Good points LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #225

agree. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #279

I hope skinner lets him come back. This is not a good thing. lonestarnot Jun 2015 #65

That would be "showing weakness." Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #436

Thank you for posting this. But I will not join the discussion - after all - who is next? jwirr Jun 2015 #68

There appears to be a certain segment of people who do not desire liberalism to thrive LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #72

Sometimes I feel almost exactly as you do. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #117

"I use my personal C word virtually every time I am here. "Corporatist." snagglepuss Jun 2015 #360

Thanks! nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #627

"Do you think after President Obama's term is over that a real Liberal black man can be elected?" sufrommich Jun 2015 #137

This should be an OP! bettyellen Jun 2015 #479

Keeping it real Person 2713 Jun 2015 #678

Excellent post. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #347

Great post Ida! N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #73

Because not all pejoratives are the same... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #96

I appreciate your comment.. N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #116

I oppose all form of bigotries... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #220

Ok, accepted. Thank you for clarifying. N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #275

How is "cocksucker" misandrist? deurbano Jun 2015 #229

Depends on your point of view... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #277

Explain it to me. deurbano Jun 2015 #289

Ok... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #330

Right. Got it. deurbano Jun 2015 #331

It it had happened ann--- Jun 2015 #79

TL;DR JonLP24 Jun 2015 #80

His passion caused him to revel in a shared c**t joke sufrommich Jun 2015 #81

Thank you..Excellent point. n/t whathehell Jun 2015 #119

^^this^^ n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #383

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jun 2015 #82

i'm a strong Hillary supporter, but i'm beside myself trying to understand or accept the ban samsingh Jun 2015 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author sofa king Jun 2015 #86

Scary stuff, I have heard of others that were targeted and banned. RR2 Jun 2015 #87

K&R...n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #88

According to my profile, I've been here just over two years. I'm shocked. Half-Century Man Jun 2015 #89

I am fortunate enough to be able to interact with him outside of here as well Horse with no Name Jun 2015 #90

Who ran NYC_SKP off of DU to get a notch on their belt? nt boston bean Jun 2015 #101

Which explains pecwae Jun 2015 #143

Do you remember the first time you heard the words bastard, bitch, and ass used valerief Jun 2015 #93

Not caring that people were upset at your calling a woman the c-word JTFrog Jun 2015 #191

Yes, my wordplay to a previous post where I referenced a prominent Republican. valerief Jun 2015 #212

I'm heartbroken. JTFrog Jun 2015 #214

Wanna keep a good reputation.. Don't call a woman a "c*nt"... that would be my advice to all boston bean Jun 2015 #97

Exactly. It's as simple as that and had the slur been about race or sexual orientation whathehell Jun 2015 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author heaven05 Jun 2015 #104

There should some control in one's life which would dictate words used are only meant to be Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #105

Proud to be rec #101. blm Jun 2015 #106

He was a strong advocate of the 2nd Amendment and a vocal opponent of the Democrat front runner tularetom Jun 2015 #109

You can't criticize the "front runner?" What's that all about? nichomachus Jun 2015 #145

I couldn't agree more but there is a large segment of the DU population tularetom Jun 2015 #165

That is exactly what happened. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #155

"He did a stupid thing and got his ass in a sling"? No, he did an ugly, bigoted thing and got whathehell Jun 2015 #160

I feel the same way about his banning as I do about America's judicial system and policing. Gregorian Jun 2015 #120

very well said. Especially this - Hiraeth Jun 2015 #138

Thank you. I believe banishment was ham handed and I hope it will be reconsidered. corkhead Jun 2015 #126

What he did was wrong, certainly KamaAina Jun 2015 #134

some have pointed out that the context is missing because he was responding to a post we can't see corkhead Jun 2015 #199

The entire context has been posted on this thread hifiguy Jun 2015 #351

Ida, you are so right. It could happen to any of us at anytime. madfloridian Jun 2015 #136

A poverty of forgiveness and an unsettling reverence for authority RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #139

Thank you, Ida Briggs!! FourScore Jun 2015 #142

Ida I also post under my name nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #144

You are still here and have much support... So, I'm not sure what you are concerned about. boston bean Jun 2015 #149

Actually if the antisemitic drivel nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #154

Please read reply #49 by snagglepuss MelissaB Jun 2015 #150

I agree with the interpretation, which was confirmed in our phone conversation. IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #161

The "who is next" question is a good one Corruption Inc Jun 2015 #168

Are you calling Skinner and admins "conservative ideologues"? sufrommich Jun 2015 #179

Thank you. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #176

A lot of people are saying it's one remark... Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #177

You're right. Javaman Jun 2015 #180

Wow...Thank you! IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #193

NYC_SKP's comment was vulgar and demeaning to women daredtowork Jun 2015 #181

Speaking as a Woman who has suffered a life time of abuse, and as an early Feminist Activist, 2banon Jun 2015 #221

Recommend nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #226

I don't see how we can deal with the MRAs daredtowork Jun 2015 #234

Problem is he did not use the word nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #238

Appreciate the Rec' .. 2banon Jun 2015 #239

+1 Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #439

I have been at DU almost since its inception after the 2000 *selection Loki Jun 2015 #182

He would not have been banned if he'd been a Hillary supporter. Marr Jun 2015 #184

Indeed. That is a Fact. 2banon Jun 2015 #207

^^THIS a thousand times! nashville_brook Jun 2015 #291

Or... Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #308

So true, and I am sure Skinner will do it again. I suggest everyone be careful. nt Logical Jun 2015 #328

You don't have to be careful FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #350

Skinner did not ban NYC_SKP so how can he "do it again"? uppityperson Jun 2015 #380

Quite true, and all criticism of Mrs. Clinton will be classified as misogynistic and woman-hating Doctor_J Jun 2015 #386

Very true. okasha Jun 2015 #388

Hillary Mojo! nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #408

If a Hillary supporter called a woman a c--t I would tell him he is trash and that's a fact. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #446

If a loyal Hillary supporter had made the same remark in the same context about, say, Warren... Marr Jun 2015 #557

In the 1,000 + post thread on this topic I was the first to say it's a shame ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #566

That's not a fact Renew Deal Jun 2015 #466

Bingo! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #481

He should be banned for cleverly calling Hillary treestar Jun 2015 #192

I applaud EarlG for doing the right thing. JTFrog Jun 2015 #202

K&R!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2015 #211

I don't believe NYCSkp is a misogynist BainsBane Jun 2015 #224

another good post Kali Jun 2015 #255

KnR. Excellent post. BTW, another OP pointed out that NYC_SKP has had several brain surgeries and tblue37 Jun 2015 #228

Admins used a sledgehammer instead of a surgical knife in dealing with skip. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #235

All I have to say on this topic frazzled Jun 2015 #237

In my opinion the (insert group/cause here) Nazis have taken over d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #242

the mobbing goes hand-in-hand with an increasingly-rightwing party line MisterP Jun 2015 #286

Fair enough post of this topic. NYC SKP should be given a chance to go and sin no more. marble falls Jun 2015 #290

Funny thing about banning. I saved you from a ban twice when you first signed up OKNancy Jun 2015 #298

That is an interesting tidbit. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #305

THANK YOU!!! IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #321

The moderator hot tub was kick-ass for helping put thing into perspective... Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 #336

Thank you, Ida, for such a poignant piece (I hope that's not a spoonerism) Oilwellian Jun 2015 #300

I agree, Ida... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #310

One offensive post does not a horrible person make. Vinca Jun 2015 #311

K&R! IdaBriggs, your post has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #324

I am so en-heartened to realize that this place is still a community. truedelphi Jun 2015 #326

....! KoKo Jun 2015 #531

I think they'll let him come back whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #334

Superb post, Ida -- thank you! n/t markpkessinger Jun 2015 #342

Thank you!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #348

Turned me on to tons of information, and was kind orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #356

people have been banned and let back in for far more serious littlewolf Jun 2015 #361

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #365

kick Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #392

All I know is the personal KINDNESS he gave me. n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #402

OFFS. NYC_SKP is a big boy. Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #407

My irony meter just broke nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #411

Good, because it's the simple facts. n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #441

Nah, the use of demeaning language nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #444

Calling him a big boy is nowhere near in the league of C*** Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #445

Sorry but demeaning langauge *IS* demeaning langauge nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #448

Sorry, false equivalency is false equivalency Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #449

Once again, you used demeaning langauge nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #451

Since you invited me to do so, here it is. Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #568

The Admins know where their bread is buttered... MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #421

Are we certain that's what butters their bread? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #431

So you think calling Hillary that is a perf ctly acceptable tactic? Adrahil Jun 2015 #556

I don't. But I also don't believe the admins are on some noble cause. MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #585

Homestly.... You think that decision was based on profit? Adrahil Jun 2015 #628

You do realize we're talking about the same admins that allowed pro-Prop 8 ads in 2008 right? MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #634

"Who is going to bring more ad-views to DU, Hillary or Bernie?" Why does it have to be an either or Cha Jun 2015 #612

Oh, and "..they've found a way to make money off of all of us." It's not like we haven't gotten Cha Jun 2015 #615

I'm so angry right now. rbnyc Jun 2015 #438

yeah. the hatred for Bernie supporters is rather palpable in that act.. 2banon Jun 2015 #453

I added text in edit... rbnyc Jun 2015 #455

I don't agree with that. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #459

the sad thing is THE word was not used Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #576

So banning a member for calling HRC that word is a sign... Adrahil Jun 2015 #558

Do you honestly believe that word is identified with Bernie Sanders and his supporters? 2banon Jun 2015 #567

Well Put, and yes, We're on the same page. 2banon Jun 2015 #460

I skipped the replies... SoapBox Jun 2015 #458

Rec #300! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #477

Wow! And thank you! IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #484

OK, let's say using that slur is an instant ban DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #499

Not reputation! I cannot understand how the akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #501

Thank you Ida. Strong post. NT pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #502

Aloha Ida, I'm friends with SKP on FB, too.. been friendly for years because he's a fellow Cha Jun 2015 #507

Good post, Cha. Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #617

Thank you for reading it, Cali.. yeah, his "over the top" got him banned and those making excuses Cha Jun 2015 #618

i'll miss him. barbtries Jun 2015 #508

Excellent post. Thank you! Petrushka Jun 2015 #511

What a fabulous post. Thanks for this, IdaBriggs. n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2015 #514

Excellent post, IdaBriggs. Reflecting on Nathaniel Hawthorne Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #518

One has to remember that our admins once banned MiddleFingerMom because... aikoaiko Jun 2015 #530

The linking of bigotry to a lack of support for a "minority" candidate is not new. tymorial Jun 2015 #560

Yes, this is actually in play currently. I will no doubt be accused of a "self loathing Woman" for 2banon Jun 2015 #564

Oh you can bank on it. tymorial Jun 2015 #574

The politically convenient use of "racist", "sexist", and other buzz words is indeed a monster... MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #622

I wish I could rec this again. nt rbnyc Jun 2015 #578

So well said and so needed to be articulated! emsimon33 Jun 2015 #616

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Wait. NYC_SKP Was banned?... SidDithers Jun 2015 #640

Yes, banned. No warnings,no time outs, banned. madfloridian Jun 2015 #647

Yes, a thread in very poor taste. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #681

And he didn't even have five hides. SixString Jun 2015 #648

Outstanding post! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #649

I agree. madfloridian Jun 2015 #651

Across the more general spectrum ... lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #652

I also agree. Thanks. n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #680

Kick. SixString Jun 2015 #654

Are you certain a single post was the cause of the ban? pnwmom Jun 2015 #659

That ban was NOT impartial. Who's next? L0oniX Jun 2015 #666

Happy that He is banned. Hope its forever for using that misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #676

If you want to know what a disaster this website has devolved to brentspeak Jun 2015 #677

A Minnesota DUer was banned for Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2015 #679