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Beacool

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70. I doubt it.

Reply to KamaAina (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 01:26 AM

Jun 2015

Hispanics are big Clinton supporters.

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Bernie Sanders Is Surging Among White Democrats, Minorities Love Hillary [View all] oberliner Jun 2015 OP

Does name recognition equate to support? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #1

Bernie Sanders is surging among whites oberliner Jun 2015 #2

I don't think he is not surging with non-whites though. HornBuckler Jun 2015 #5

It doesn't appear he is surging among Tar Heel state African American Democrats DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #20

Give Bernie time.. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #25

Name recognition ... Yeah, that's it ... Name recognition! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #27

Noticed. No comment, however... n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #58

Hillary has been a household name since the 90s Zamen Jun 2015 #131

When is your primary? The candidates are focusing on Iowa and New Hampshire right now. And jwirr Jun 2015 #42

North Carolina's is March 1st - Super Tuesday. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #152

By that time we will have a lot of answers. I have mine written on the calendar but can never jwirr Jun 2015 #156

You're welcome. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #157

Expect that number to change very little, even after we "get to know him". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #69

You don't? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #101

"reminding" us enough about the shady stuff done in the 2008 primary." Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #135

White liberal Sanders supporters in Iowa are no more obligated to clear the field for Hillary now betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #126

Right now Obama has an 89% approval rating among dem caucus-goers in Iowa. Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #133

It measures 2012 dem caucus goers betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #134

Nope Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #139

The only way you can determine who is 'likely caucus goer' is to measure who went last time. n/t betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #141

Here's the methodology Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #143

Landline surveys of people already making plans to attend = Hardcore old Democrats. betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #146

Thankfully, there aren't enough "Iowa liberals" in NC to make Bernie a threat here. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #136

There are many non-voters so don't get comfortable. Nothing prevents them from registering betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #142

"Offering"? Who are Bernie's natural allies in Congress? The progressive caucus is quite small. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #149

I don't see why african americans would find a white women who offers little more appealing than betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #151

Sometimes it isn't so much the message as it is the messenger. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #153

There are close to 1,750,000 Unaffiliateds in North Carolina. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #148

Good luck with that! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #150

Surging is one thing. Inspiring is another. eom guillaumeb Jun 2015 #6

Surging is an overstatement karynnj Jun 2015 #108

there is only one Obama JI7 Jun 2015 #3

Not exactly. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #7

I like her yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #10

You mean like Senator? nt karynnj Jun 2015 #109

Or House or start at the state level or maybe an Attorney General yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #112

Dynasties are for Republicans. hifiguy Jun 2015 #23

John Adams and John Quincy Adams would disagree you on that dlwickham Jun 2015 #32

John was pretty reactionary. hifiguy Jun 2015 #33

Both the country and the Presidency were a lot different then. The other example is Bush. merrily Jun 2015 #113

Hahaha. I agree with you that was one of the reasons, but currently inheritance and not the KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #106

Dynasties of wealth are just as toxic in a democracy. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #158

She has said more than once that she doesn't have the temperment Obama has. freshwest Jun 2015 #159

+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #14

Already somebody implied some folks don't know why they like the candidate they like./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #18

A song about missing him in January 2009: freshwest Jun 2015 #62

Yes ... Name recognition ... That's it! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #26

I mean, *obviously* black voters won't have heard of him Recursion Jun 2015 #75

Nope... not at all racist Recursion Jun 2015 #74

Other recognition, too HassleCat Jun 2015 #128

Excellent point made. tymorial Jun 2015 #129

As long as everyone comes together for the General Election. nt FLPanhandle Jun 2015 #4

Polls on subsamples tend to be very unreliable. Mass Jun 2015 #8

Are you suggesting that Hillary's strength among people of color is an artifact? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #21

Yes, she is ahead, but the numbers themselves are BS, and you know it because Mass Jun 2015 #48

Other polls DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #52

There is no such comment in the OP oberliner Jun 2015 #98

G.E. POLL . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #9

I'd call Sanders the more "traditional" Dem, aside from that Independent thing :) arcane1 Jun 2015 #11

Exactly! TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #51

Surging...............surging.. pangaia Jun 2015 #12

I said this after his kickoff, and was roundly pilloried for "race baiting". It's good to be right. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #13

So you don't believe in Bernie's social justice philosophy Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #35

At this point, Sanders doesn't seem to have made that case to minority populations mythology Jun 2015 #57

Well said. If he makes the case, minorities will listen. Number23 Jun 2015 #63

Well said! zappaman Jun 2015 #145

You answered that perfectly. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #67

Question. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #123

It's who she's talking to & the issues she's speaking out about. Those same issues are important... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #137

Meh. It's an exaggeration. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #15

Hillary may have some trouble with Latinos KamaAina Jun 2015 #16

Hispanics voted for Sen. Hillary Clinton over Sen. Barack Obama by a margin of nearly two-to-one oberliner Jun 2015 #17

Have you ever heard of "Machismo"? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #56

Yes, so? lunamagica Jun 2015 #132

I doubt it. Beacool Jun 2015 #70

And to this point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #100

Ironic that Hillary's hard working white people are starting to abandon her for Bernie Fumesucker Jun 2015 #19

She's just like Jesse Jackson geek tragedy Jun 2015 #28

Only lefty political junkies know who Bernie is at this point. hifiguy Jun 2015 #22

Isn't that his base? oberliner Jun 2015 #30

Traditional Democrats are the republican lite ones? PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #24

Of course they are, just ask them Fumesucker Jun 2015 #29

This doesn't surprise me in the least. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #31

It's just empirical evidence confirming anecdotal evidence./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #34

I support Bernie Sanders Aerows Jun 2015 #36

Not about you- it's about how the current demographics for both candidates. bettyellen Jun 2015 #37

I should have said "you" in quotes, I guess, Aerows Jun 2015 #38

Ha! Well I am glad to know you're not taking it personally... bettyellen Jun 2015 #41

I didn't know Aerows Jun 2015 #45

If Americans followed the plot in politics as much as they do sports bettyellen Jun 2015 #49

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #102

I've long believed that some are only interested in politics as a game- that's for sure. bettyellen Jun 2015 #114

Huh? oberliner Jun 2015 #40

I think that is to be expected. Bernie got into trouble because he announced his run in his home jwirr Jun 2015 #39

Careful with the "not enough" weren't those the exact words that spawned a thousand lies here? bettyellen Jun 2015 #43

No idea what you are talking aboout. jwirr Jun 2015 #47

Those were the last words in a post about Sanders campaign.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #50

Yeah, I am often glad I am missing thing lately. jwirr Jun 2015 #53

Yeah, I been around too much lately.... Server issues leaving me in work limbo. :-( bettyellen Jun 2015 #55

Sure voting rights,voter fraud is an issue but INdemo Jun 2015 #44

The calculated denial of the right to vote is an issue. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #104

And we're off! Bonobo Jun 2015 #46

In what universe could it possibly imply that? oberliner Jun 2015 #54

How is it possible? U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #59

The OP is just reporting data oberliner Jun 2015 #93

I don't think it's that hard to see. Surprised I'd have to explain it. Bonobo Jun 2015 #60

It's NBC News' title not Oberliner's. title./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #66

That is different than implying Sanders is racist oberliner Jun 2015 #94

Yeah that's weird; but, I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #105

It will be interesting to see how it plays out oberliner Jun 2015 #107

No. Not particularly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #110

Inflammatory bullshit. No one can report on demographics now- bettyellen Jun 2015 #115

It doesn't say anything like that gollygee Jun 2015 #118

I felt the implication was that Sanders wasn't doing enough Zamen Jun 2015 #127

I don't think he is doing enough to court people of color to vote for him gollygee Jun 2015 #130

That is a very strange title for an article. madfloridian Jun 2015 #61

Dog whistle AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #65

You know what else is a dog whistle? "Name recognition" Recursion Jun 2015 #76

How is that a 'dog whistle'? AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #78

What do you mean by that? oberliner Jun 2015 #96

. AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #124

Seems to me Egnever Jun 2015 #77

Seriously? oberliner Jun 2015 #97

NBC News is gearing it's titles to divide DU? oberliner Jun 2015 #95

From Gravity's Rainbow: deutsey Jun 2015 #116

Do you see the reactions to your OP? This is how the "people called Bernie a racist" lie got started Number23 Jun 2015 #64

yeah, we see them.. Cha Jun 2015 #71

You know who addressed this better than you & I ever could? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #72

"You can't bring up race, in any context, without being accused of calling someone a racist". Number23 Jun 2015 #79

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #117

Not sure what "Name Removed" had to say, but it must have been a pip. If we're too cowardly... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #154

Honestly find it very strange oberliner Jun 2015 #99

There's been no implication of Sanders being racist anywhere. Number23 Jun 2015 #155

Not surprising. romanic Jun 2015 #68

This bodes well for Hillary in Nov. 2016 ucrdem Jun 2015 #73

This is why Bernie has no prayer of winning the primaries BluegrassDem Jun 2015 #80

Amazing that it is implied from a Poll.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #81

Here's the problem: Bernie has made opposition to the TPP the centerpiece of his campaign. ucrdem Jun 2015 #82

TPP = Fascism AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #84

Fine, and what does that make President Obama? ucrdem Jun 2015 #85

It makes him a right wing Democrat AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #86

LOL. Democracts aren't fascists. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #89

No, but TPP is AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #90

You can't have it both ways. Except of course on the internet ucrdem Jun 2015 #91

Sure you can AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #147

WHAT? LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #87

The fact is that whether it passes or not Sanders has made himself an Obama opponent. ucrdem Jun 2015 #92

Here are three more polls from the same time period that suggest the same exact phenomenon DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #103

She was ruthlessly pummelled by Obama supporters in 08 AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #83

there are people outside of chat rooms and media personalities JI7 Jun 2015 #88

Does anyone have a good source for 2008 Dem primary candidates and demographics? aikoaiko Jun 2015 #111

Your analysis is correct... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #119

I am a Minoritiy and I will stand yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #120

This so-called "minority" leans towards Sanders, fwiw... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #121

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #122

Jews are about what? 1.4% of the US population. Bonobo Jun 2015 #125

The majority of Jews in the US are white Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #144

An obvious NBC pant load. How many political ads will Hillary be airing on NBC? L0oniX Jun 2015 #138

This article is very positive about Sanders oberliner Jun 2015 #140