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JonLP24

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28. There are more than 1 secular references to the crucifixion

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:32 AM

Jun 2015

from within the first 100 years -- I think probably 60-70 AD which was the same era as Pontious Pilate so there is Tacitus. There was someone else though not sure who but it was consistent with the "King of the Jews" title upset the power. anyway I do believe he existed but I doubt most of the accounts in the bible as unreliable that wish there was a CNN and on-the-ground journalists covering the story because I don't know if he was saying he was this divine person or the people following him around him saying that but the "resurrection" or any of the supernatural claims. I'm not a follower of any religion but the history of religion fascinates me. I'm interested in Reza Aslan's book Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus Christ

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There are more than 1 secular references to the crucifixion JonLP24 Jun 2015 #28

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