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nxylas

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19. But that's pretty circumstantial evidence

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:35 AM

Jun 2015

There's a big difference between "Barack Obama was president when this cartoon ran" and "this cartoon blames President Obama for the difference between the official unemployment figure and the real one". I don't know what was going through the cartoonist's mind when he drew it. It may be that he has a long history of ODS and of blaming Obama for everything. But based purely on the evidence of this cartoon, I don't see any specific attack on Obama in there.

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Unemployment rate hocus-pocus (cartoon) [View all] marmar Jun 2015 OP

Haven't there always been "hidden" unemployed?? DCBob Jun 2015 #1

No, everything bad started when Obama became president Democat Jun 2015 #2

You forgot the sarcasm gif, right? nt brush Jun 2015 #3

Seems alot of people want to change the way we calculate unemployment now. DCBob Jun 2015 #4

I don't know who those people are. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #17

I think its simply a very difficult number to determine accurately. DCBob Jun 2015 #18

Infaltion rates that don't include food or energy, CrispyQ Jun 2015 #23

Crazy, right? And yet, they always seem to be telling us to live in reality. Yikes! nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #39

Yes, the CPI includes food and energy. I wish this zombie would die Recursion Jun 2015 #41

The cartoon never even mentioned Obama nxylas Jun 2015 #5

It suggests the government is not taking into account the millions of "hidden" unemployed. DCBob Jun 2015 #7

Which is true nxylas Jun 2015 #14

Well, did this cartoon ever run prior to the current administration? DCBob Jun 2015 #15

But that's pretty circumstantial evidence nxylas Jun 2015 #19

You mean did it run before 2015, 7 years after the 2008 financial crises, right? Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #20

After six years of Obama Derangement Syndrome, SCVDem Jun 2015 #12

The cartoonist's work is regularly featured at Townhall.com MADem Jun 2015 #28

Well, that changes things nxylas Jun 2015 #31

DU didn't trust unemployment figures back when Bush was prez. CrispyQ Jun 2015 #24

The way it is tallied awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #26

No. it started under JFK. Then Reagan took it several steps further. Then Clinton. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #35

Thanks, didn't know it went back that far.... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #36

JFK removed "discouraged workers" from unemployment figures in 1961. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #37

I've been complaining since Reagan. Though, since JFK, the govt. has been fudging the numbers. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #33

Thanks for the info BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #38

Of course - for instance - when they tell us that the rate is "5.5 percent" that is overall - it jwirr Jun 2015 #21

Yes, but not to the extent there are today. hifiguy Jun 2015 #30

Yes, I am sure it worse today than before.. DCBob Jun 2015 #32

Nop. Started with JFK who removed discouraged workers in 1961. But Reagan did more to fudge the Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #34

Great cartoon Gothmog Jun 2015 #6

I am one of those shadows at the end of the line. SmittynMo Jun 2015 #8

Sorry to hear that.. I was almost there too being an IT guy in mid 50's. DCBob Jun 2015 #9

The official unemployment rate almost always SheilaT Jun 2015 #10

Those who aren't looking for work are counted, in the U-4, and it's 0.5% of the population Recursion Jun 2015 #42

K&R Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #11

We need a policy of full employment Agony Jun 2015 #13

There will NEVER be 'full employment'! relrod Jun 2015 #40

Full employment for those able to work. uppityperson Jun 2015 #43

Toon shows,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #16

You did--see post 28! nt MADem Jun 2015 #29

Homeless rate...er um sputter...FREEDOM! AMERICA! WE'RE NUMBER #1!!!! Rex Jun 2015 #22

Of course suggested alternatives are either a) already given or b) fucking stupid whatthehey Jun 2015 #25

K&R WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #27