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Bluenorthwest

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14. The system Bernie calls out is exemplified by Republicans, who are our opponents.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jun 2015

Other Democrats are not opponents but rivals. I support Bernie but I sure as fuck don't see other Democrats as the final nail in the coffin of hyperbole. I look at a menu I say I prefer the chicken, I have no need to rail against the steak.
How does Bernie do politics? Not the way you are suggesting. Which is one of the things I like about Bernie, he has the skills to avoid the gutter and navigate the discussion to the heart of the matter.
But on the other hand, I strongly support Hillary's suggestions for automatic voter registration and extended early voting and I'm happy to hear those messages being delivered. It compliments Bernie's call for more and better debates, it's taking on the election itself from the first, as a Party.
As you know, the Oregon primary is a year away. Personally, I want attentive voters attracted by a vigorous race between excellent candidates. Oregon added many Democrats to the rolls in 2008 cycle primaries. I'd like to see that again.
Also, for what it's worth, 259,000 Oregonians voted for Hillary Clinton. This indicates that a large number of Democrats might not agree with your characterizations and some might take them personally, even ascribing them to Senator Sanders who does no such thing. That means it's stupid politics if the goal is to elect Sanders.
Then there are issues of message dynamics. Even if a person might eventually have to shout and call names, starting out at that level leaves a person with no way to return to the issues and no way to pipe down the intensity. A year of bellowing against your rival will make many people dislike a candidate. You can't start with the shouting too early. It's a freaking year.

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Well, like the 3 current nominees TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #2
He'd be a fine second choice. That's what I mean when I say I like him. MADem Jun 2015 #3
It means you might think they are a swell person. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #4
I have always admired Hillary DJ13 Jun 2015 #5
What's the difference between losing a hand..... daleanime Jun 2015 #6
That is why you don't see that statement from me JonLP24 Jun 2015 #7
It's not that I "like" Hillary, I genuinely like and respect many of her supporters. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #8
Why would it strike terror in someone's heart if you want a D to win? Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #9
Well said. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #10
My preference is Hillary, if she isn't in the DNC nominee I will be behind the DNC nominee Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #11
Your opinion of Hillary is like a lot of Bernie upaloopa Jun 2015 #12
I plan to vote for Hillary but like Bernie gwheezie Jun 2015 #13
The system Bernie calls out is exemplified by Republicans, who are our opponents. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #14
"Likeable and unlikeable" are not traits I care about when voting. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #15
It means that I would have no problem voting for them in the general election etherealtruth Jun 2015 #16
Cutesy names aside hootinholler Jun 2015 #17
Lol. I don't do the "terror in the heart" over politics anymore... bettyellen Jun 2015 #18
I'd like to win in 2016. Our current candidates all have their own distinct advantages struggle4progress Jun 2015 #19
It means that LWolf Jun 2015 #20
It means "I think X is good, but Y is better." okasha Jun 2015 #21
I'd drink a beer with Hillary, in fact Exilednight Jun 2015 #22
I have always liked Hillary Clinton. ananda Jun 2015 #23
Usually it's not hard. hifiguy Jun 2015 #24
Your post is a little confusing. pennylane100 Jun 2015 #25
What you're saying is that people "like" the one they don't support Ron Green Jun 2015 #27
speaking for myself DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #26
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