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+100 Lint Head Jun 2015 #1
I agree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #2
Agree 100% nt Lee-Lee Jun 2015 #3
It is a not ONLY but ALSO pairing hifiguy Jun 2015 #4
Yeah, and it smacks of self interest to pretend to women and POC that money comes first. bettyellen Jun 2015 #5
Why not both? Why the false dichotomy? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #8
Both would be great. Ignoring the loss of women's civil rights bettyellen Jun 2015 #9
Do people really ignore them? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #23
I think another one is long overdue. We are losing on so many fronts these days bettyellen Jun 2015 #25
The majority of Americans are pro-choice. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #29
global warming is social justice? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #6
Check out Naomi Klein's "This Changes Everything." hifiguy Jun 2015 #11
I do think it's an existential threat that, in many ways, trumps everything else. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #13
Yep. hifiguy Jun 2015 #15
No. That's environmental policy. It's a separate issue. DanTex Jun 2015 #17
Only if you're one of those people trying to dilute the meaning of social justice.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #18
Agreed. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #22
Not at all! I do think there are too many upset when people say that Sanders needs to broaden his bettyellen Jun 2015 #26
I agree, too. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #30
Or you could just start listening to him AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #64
Strawman AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #62
of course it does and no one has said it doesn't cali Jun 2015 #7
Of course people have said it doesn't. For example, the OP with "social justice" in quotes. DanTex Jun 2015 #16
You mean like the one that said historylovr Jun 2015 #52
Yes, like that. Neither belong in quotes. I'm sure you agree. DanTex Jun 2015 #56
It's the strawman that gets resistince AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #63
What strawman? And what makes you think I don't want to talk about economic issues? DanTex Jun 2015 #71
Absolutely agree. historylovr Jun 2015 #67
Phony distinction. All political issues are social justice issues. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #10
Blammo. hifiguy Jun 2015 #12
That sums it up perfectly. They are intertwined. Exilednight Jun 2015 #27
+1. It's not an either/or. winter is coming Jun 2015 #37
"are really just trying to create a wedge for some political advantage." beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #44
It's a 'Third Way®' thing AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #65
So busy using minorities as human shields they can't understand why the rest of us are disgusted. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #69
Yup! TM99 Jun 2015 #48
You got it. romanic Jun 2015 #49
Thank you vive la commune Jun 2015 #53
Yeah it all has to go together I would say. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #55
Bravo Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #75
Not driving a wedge at all. Just resisting the push to marginalize DanTex Jun 2015 #77
Phony. Even the vocabulary you use to describe the issues is phony. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #78
These threads and comments are starting to irk me daredtowork Jun 2015 #14
It's absurd to say that people are "smoothing things over". DanTex Jun 2015 #19
I read here that women and POC here are trolls doing exactly what you accuse. bettyellen Jun 2015 #21
And there it is daredtowork Jun 2015 #24
Lol, you really haven't figured out the "ally" thing, have you? bettyellen Jun 2015 #31
At this point you have me totally confused daredtowork Jun 2015 #43
Be disgusted all you want, but ignore that people who are effected gravely by them don't appreciate bettyellen Jun 2015 #45
because no one said "it's all economic" daredtowork Jun 2015 #47
So, here are the weird accusations I spoke of ! The anger and denial bettyellen Jun 2015 #50
you just can't quit daredtowork Jun 2015 #58
What socialist vs economic acrobatics? You do realize that is all in your head I hope... bettyellen Jun 2015 #60
I'm not trying to win anyone over daredtowork Jun 2015 #66
The irony... DanTex Jun 2015 #72
Fail daredtowork Jun 2015 #74
First of all, Hillary does address real poverty issues, so your whole premise is wrong. DanTex Jun 2015 #76
I've read Hillary's platform on welfare daredtowork Jun 2015 #79
Fair enough. Yes, we disagree about some things. But probably not that many. DanTex Jun 2015 #80
I agree. That is crazy paranoia. Bonobo Jun 2015 #28
They are actually two blocks that often work together, share very similar histories and vote along bettyellen Jun 2015 #33
So then it's cool if I also speak with POC because I'm Jewish. I mean, right? Bonobo Jun 2015 #36
Well, your response wandered off into la la land.... But go talk with whoever you want. bettyellen Jun 2015 #38
Huh? Talk about La-La Land... Bonobo Jun 2015 #39
Candidates ..... Courting or ignoring voting block *snaps fingers* bettyellen Jun 2015 #40
Huh? What? Oh, oh yeah, thanks, I greyed out there for a minute. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #20
Not what I said, of course. And enjoy your stay. DanTex Jun 2015 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #35
Lol, you're a cute one! bettyellen Jun 2015 #41
And how do you propose we get social justice without economic justice? Kalidurga Jun 2015 #34
That's the multi-trillion dollar question that no one who presents this argument can answer. Exilednight Jun 2015 #51
It won't happen AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #68
How dogmatic of you. closeupready Jun 2015 #46
How do you separate out... Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #54
Never heard of "trans-ethnic otherkins" before this post. DanTex Jun 2015 #57
Fasten your seatbelt, then google it. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #59
No thanks. I've gotten the gist... it's a way for people like you to dismiss the DanTex Jun 2015 #73
Pft. All right, have fun with all that. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #81
It's claiming that anyone with a kink or an idea in their head to be bettyellen Jun 2015 #70
Social justice is economic justice MFrohike Jun 2015 #61
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