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Ms. Toad

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62. I have a problem as well.

Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:06 AM

Jun 2015

I don't necessarily agree that he didn't have a history of this type of behavior (he participated in at least one of the threads I linked to). But - the admins didn't seem to be concerned about the phrase, whether it was uttered by NYC_SKP - or anyone else - until it was used (by someone other than NYC_SKP) to refer to a clever media device employed by Clinton, then repeated by NYC_SKP.

I'm all in favor of the admins being more involved when it comes to mysogyny. homophobia, and transphobia. There's way too much of it that skates through juries (all along, but more so recently). I'm not in favor of selective involvement to achieve a politically expedient goal, particularly when it is labeled with a ban message that suggests the reason was intolerance for mysogyny on DU.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 OP

They look fine to me. enlightenment Jun 2015 #1

There are clarifications in each forum or group. SOP is under the "about this forum" button above uppityperson Jun 2015 #2

I think they are quite clear DrDan Jun 2015 #3

Need to include the specific words: "cunning stunt". This is an automatically bannable offense. Hiraeth Jun 2015 #4

Except that it isn't, when it is directed at women in general Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #24

IOKIYAHS Hiraeth Jun 2015 #34

Consistency would be helpful in the enforcement of the rules Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #43

Wow. Double standards around here? Who woulda thunk it? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #44

Wow. nt cwydro Jun 2015 #54

Wow! Egnever Jun 2015 #58

This right here is why I have a problem TM99 Jun 2015 #61

I have a problem as well. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #62

I can't disagree with a word you write. nt TM99 Jun 2015 #63

Just curious how you know more than the Administrators about NYC_SKP's activities on DU... KittyWampus Jun 2015 #64

I'm not assuming anything. I'm taking the admins at their word. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #66

there are rules and then there is wisdom and justice in enforcing them. unblock Jun 2015 #5

You guys are really working overtime phil89 Jun 2015 #32

i am vastly more interested in process than particular cases. unblock Jun 2015 #71

The DU TOS has always seemed clear to me. MineralMan Jun 2015 #6

One more thing: Don't push your luck. nt Rex Jun 2015 #7

That one's my favorite...LOL. libdem4life Jun 2015 #30

Either or RobertEarl Jun 2015 #8

Apparently the "No Bigoted Hate Speech" section is an assault on freedom, according to many here. DemocraticWing Jun 2015 #9

+1000 beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #15

some of the complaint is about hfojvt Jun 2015 #16

Religion has a lot of gray area Bradical79 Jun 2015 #36

No, but when the response to bigoted hate speech is mostly "it's bad; take care of it yourselves" Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #37

The anti-LGBT speech is a lot of what I'm talking about. DemocraticWing Jun 2015 #40

THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE OFFENDED, can always go start their own place trueblue2007 Jun 2015 #68

This message was hidden by Jury decision. Glassunion Jun 2015 #10

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #12

Got me. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #35

Message auto-removed L0oniX Jun 2015 #60

DU is supposed to be fun KMOD Jun 2015 #11

This part: Exilednight Jun 2015 #13

What's accused ? treestar Jun 2015 #26

I have no problem admitting I'm liberal, in fact I'm proud of it. Exilednight Jun 2015 #28

Of course you're Fringe. Guy is bald with unruly side hair and doesn't color it. LOL libdem4life Jun 2015 #33

yeah, I've been called uber-left rbnyc Jun 2015 #39

Crystal clear, imo... Spazito Jun 2015 #14

Here's the subject on which they would benefit from clarification.... Jim Lane Jun 2015 #17

You take your chances... MineralMan Jun 2015 #19

Right -- and that's precisely the DEFECT of vagueness in rules. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #20

Well, since I'm in favor of people controlling their MineralMan Jun 2015 #21

I sorta disagree, MM wyldwolf Jun 2015 #22

Every forum has its own favorite posters. MineralMan Jun 2015 #23

Some have to work much harder than others to get thrown off. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #46

I can't speak to that. But it's really easy not MineralMan Jun 2015 #47

Look at post #24 in this thread. "Cunning stunts" all over the place, and nobody got hidden. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #50

NYC_SKP had zero jury hides in 90 days Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #59

Who cares how many jury hides he had� how many alerts came in on his posts that didn't get hidden? KittyWampus Jun 2015 #65

I care - and you should too inasmuch as juries are supposed to be the enforcers of DU rules Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #67

WTF? You realize that the Adminstrators DO see more than you and I on this site? That they own it? KittyWampus Jun 2015 #69

You like and admire the admins. I get that. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #70

That's pretty damn clear already Hekate Jun 2015 #18

if the DU Administrators just don't like you treestar Jun 2015 #25

Two words. 99Forever Jun 2015 #27

The rules are fine, as long as they are applied consistently and fairly tularetom Jun 2015 #29

Why should the site administrators not take a position MineralMan Jun 2015 #49

Obviously the site administrators are free to support any candidate they like, as are we all tularetom Jun 2015 #55

Yeah. Site owner fail. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #52

Why? Are you in charge of re-writing them? LWolf Jun 2015 #31

No- I'm not in charge of rewriting them. I'm asking your opinion of them. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #41

I don't disagree with that. nt LWolf Jun 2015 #48

In short... rbnyc Jun 2015 #38

That's fair. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #42

that's a good analogy. rbnyc Jun 2015 #45

You missed one. Be pro Hillary or risk getting banned. L0oniX Jun 2015 #51

As one who makes no secret of being pro-Hillary, I'd say these things: Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #57

They seem clear enough to me. nt cwydro Jun 2015 #53

"DU is supposed to be fun � don't make it suck." <Uh, it's the policticians giving money to bank$ter jtuck004 Jun 2015 #56