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BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
4. If it bothers you to avoid using bigoted speech
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:49 AM
Jun 2015

Don't sign up for a website with terms of service that prohibits it. If you feel the need to insult people based on gender, race, or sexuality, ask yourself why you see the subaltern as so inferior to the privileged. DU isn't a Hollywood movie. It's a political site organized around support for the Democratic Party, the majority of which is comprised of women. I take this PSA about some movie as a pretext because I seriously doubt you think anyone cares about some random movie and that your post instead is aimed at people who seek to uphold respect in use of language about and to women.

Language is important because it signals meaning. This is not the UK or Australia. This is the US, and it is a website that is supposed to be frequented by people who respect members of the population regardless of race, gender, or sexuality. The only way we know one another is through our words, and using bigoted language signals clear meaning. If language is incidental, so are your posts and those of every other member of this site.

I submit that repeating and justifying such language perpetuates bigotry. It is not acceptable among any civilized people or anyone who has even a modicum of respect for their fellow citizens. If, however, people have nothing to say but merely wish to express hatred, those are the go to terms. That is in fact their purpose. I myself have a pretty foul mouth in real life, but I know when I can use certain words and when I can't. Even so, that particular word isn't part of my repertoire. In fact, none of the foul words I use are about race, gender, or sexuality. There are so many other options, that one only turns to those words when the point is to demean someone for a mere accident of birth. Since I don't wish to convey such meaning, I choose different words. To pretend there is something odd about being offended by words that are in fact INTENDED to offend is ridiculous.

During a time when we have debate about whether the Democratic party is to serve the interests of the white middle class or of the mosaic that makes up America, justifying the use of such language makes clear where people stand on that issue. It contributes to an exclusionary politics, of the few and by the few.

I also find it wholly offensive that people are blaming and targeting women by repeating and justifying bigotry rather than taking their complaints to the administrators. It once again reaffirms my view that too many favor a society that promotes their own interests to the exclusion of the majority, a majority they feel fit to demean with bigoted language. Political views are not separate from language, and we see in this case they mirror each other precisely.

I find it unfortunate that some have used NYCSkp's banning to target the subaltern. Like so many other events that have transpired on this site, women and feminists in particular are again scapegoated, even though it was a man who banned NYCSkp. Thus we see the banning is merely pretext for the far more pernicious performance of privilege.

We live in a world where the population on this site is the minority, everywhere but on this little corner of the internet. In no place is America is the population so white, so elderly, and so affluent. What we witness here is angst about the changing demographics in American society and the fact that people now have to compete on a more equal playing field. So we have on one hand men telling women what their political concerns should be and who best represents their interests, and we have a similar demonstration by whites over people of color. We have post after post recalling the halcyon days of the Democratic party, of FDR and JFK, a party that served the interests of the white middle class to the exclusion of the majority. No matter how many times people have it pointed out that the party also supported Jim Crow in those years and that the majority of Americans were denied basic rights and lived in crippling poverty, a few continue to hearken back to a period when their own group prospered at the expense of the majority. Now we see that same determination to regain lost privilege through language. It is become crystal clear to me that I am witnessing a politics of exclusion posing as liberalism/leftism. The promotion and defense of bigoted language conforms with that exclusionary politics.

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Thanks for warning our tender ears. We shall forever be grateful. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #1
Thanks for that little slice of SPY NBachers Jun 2015 #2
Thanks for the PSA Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #3
I find it interesting that it is your side on this who keep carping on vapors and fainting CTyankee Jun 2015 #21
What sides are there on this? A vast majority of the people on this planet, let alone in this sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #35
My comment was on the use of the poster to indicate that something was going on with CTyankee Jun 2015 #36
Well, I don't think it's about sides. I think it's about a small group trying to force everyone else sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #40
I will not personally attack you. CTyankee Jun 2015 #44
Thank you for a civil response. And yes we can have those discussions and we do, but not on DU sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #56
If it bothers you to avoid using bigoted speech BainsBane Jun 2015 #4
Yes. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #6
Eh? RobertEarl Jun 2015 #7
One little word. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #9
So... RobertEarl Jun 2015 #10
You seem to want some type of purity... boston bean Jun 2015 #12
Saying something is fine RobertEarl Jun 2015 #13
I don't know why you would take it personally... boston bean Jun 2015 #14
Sorry, but strikes me funny that someone objecting to word censoring uses "frigging" pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #15
the reference to 'some man' is very insulting to me. samsingh Jun 2015 #28
In which post do you see "some man"? nt pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #29
More sexist than a single word is the misuse of the word 'misogyny' which is thrown around here sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #38
+1000 blue neen Jun 2015 #8
Strange thing is the OP is certainly concerned with words on DU. boston bean Jun 2015 #11
Exactly. Thank you. whathehell Jun 2015 #34
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #48
Thank you, BainsBane. brer cat Jun 2015 #16
Thank you gaspee Jun 2015 #20
"They're only words. It's the context that counts" diamondhead Jun 2015 #22
Great post and spot on. nt sufrommich Jun 2015 #27
Thank you. You are correct. whathehell Jun 2015 #31
Your well-reasoned and superbly written post will soon be defined as "bullying." alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #45
It is not bullying nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #49
I'm not easily offended alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #58
Long screed for a word on a script nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #47
Takes a lot to offend me. joshcryer Jun 2015 #5
the problem with your argument is this justiceischeap Jun 2015 #17
This ^^^^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #18
It is alsO your choice here nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #51
I laughed at that too Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #19
Do you know the word 'context'? You are a poster who touts the bigoted Pope Francis Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #23
If you don't like DU, leave forever. Again. randome Jun 2015 #24
+100 nt whathehell Jun 2015 #32
Jury results Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #41
Sure, let's all sit back and enjoy the condescension. randome Jun 2015 #43
Whatever kid nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #54
This isn't a movie.It's a forum for democrats. One of the sufrommich Jun 2015 #25
ROFL malaise Jun 2015 #26
Context makes a difference. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #30
Context is everything as far as I'm concerned... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #37
Isn't that like saying don't read "To Kill a Mockingbird" if you don't like the n-word? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #33
There are people who indeed do not read books with nasty language nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #52
if you want to post "clinton is a bigot word", just google quote & you'll see several websites Sunlei Jun 2015 #39
Your post reminded me of a friend's aunt visiting from the U.K. LiberalElite Jun 2015 #42
Context matters, and US English is not the same as UK English. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #46
Which was the point of that exchange in the movie nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #53
It's like you don't get the difference between wordplay and slurs. Brickbat Jun 2015 #50
It is more like a game of tribes quite honestly nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #55
No it isn't pintobean Jun 2015 #57
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