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233. We're talking about societal effects

Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:52 PM

Jun 2015

He may be hurt, but it doesn't stop him from being governor. There are a few women who get somewhere despite weight - the exception not the rule. They have to overcome some pretty high barriers. Oprah went on a diet publicly, IIRR. It's not like she's immune either, in spite of having overcome the obstacles put in her path.

Fat men do have some loss of credibility, but it's not the same. They are still men. It's not as big an obstacle for them. That's because for centuries they have not been judged on their looks as much. Not nearly as much. For women it's more important to look good than anything else. Men have the luxury of that being secondary.

I'm sure we're going to hear from Republicans about how Hillary is an old hag. Comments on what she wears and so on.

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Misogynistic language.... [View all] boston bean Jun 2015 OP

Anyone who directs that word at anyone is just cwydro Jun 2015 #1

Excuse me, but... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #2

Ask Earl G bettyellen Jun 2015 #29

+1 The perfect response. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #46

But it's much more fun to whine and complain incessantly. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #102

I don't seem to be the one doing that... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #365

Do you ask people to interpret what you owns eyes are capable of? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #366

K&R mcar Jun 2015 #3

It might be offensive Zamen Jun 2015 #4

I cannot believe you just said that. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #6

In the UK, it is still a perjorative but lacks the purely anti-woman connotations it KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #7

Well if it was directed at all women, then possibly Zamen Jun 2015 #9

Insofar as the term, as used in the U.S., reduces a woman to one of her KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #13

That's a bit melodramatic Zamen Jun 2015 #16

The power isn't in the word, it's in the reality of the culture where boston bean Jun 2015 #18

Only the person using those words knows how they really think Zamen Jun 2015 #41

That is just ridiculous. boston bean Jun 2015 #43

I speculate that was an insult. beevul Jun 2015 #63

When I am having a conversation or read something, I understand intent. boston bean Jun 2015 #64

What about in ambiguous situations? beevul Jun 2015 #71

Possibly it is those who feel it was ambiguous that have an issue with clearly understanding? boston bean Jun 2015 #73

Possibly its those who rush to condemn who also rushed to a (mis)understanding. beevul Jun 2015 #84

uh huh... boston bean Jun 2015 #87

Why is his intent not to be decided by everyone on their own? treestar Jun 2015 #195

It goes to the nature of the thing. beevul Jun 2015 #541

You want it both ways. You claim everyone else misunderstood, but Exilednight Jun 2015 #398

The times I've had to witness its use were never ever ambiguous. How could it possibly be used..... marble falls Jun 2015 #144

When it is not used, but assigned as the result of a mind-reading tantrum. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #158

The use of this word in our country lark Jun 2015 #232

It's a word meant to demean people - usually, but not exclusively, women Zamen Jun 2015 #268

How is it different? treestar Jun 2015 #269

Exactly Zamen Jun 2015 #274

the N word can be used to demean whoever it is directed at treestar Jun 2015 #279

Totally disagree lark Jun 2015 #325

That's not true in my experience Zamen Jun 2015 #326

When it is used on a guy, lark Jun 2015 #332

So is calling a guy a part of the male anatomy a put down for men? Zamen Jun 2015 #335

That is the exact same argument that BreakfastClub Jun 2015 #457

If you are standing on my foot, it doesn't matter if it is an accident or deliberate KitSileya Jun 2015 #318

I don't think women have made it clear, actually Zamen Jun 2015 #360

Classic misogyny treestar Jun 2015 #367

Ah yes, "the irrational little woman" argument. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #368

+1 treestar Jun 2015 #369

Yep, and, wait for it, "it's that time of the month, honey. You'll think more MoonRiver Jun 2015 #440

Oh boy... you really should stop now. cui bono Jun 2015 #510

Well what does the usage of the word "dick" tell us about how people think about men? Zamen Jun 2015 #154

yes it is Skittles Jun 2015 #476

We can do more than speculate. The person who uses the C word knows how most women feel about it pnwmom Jun 2015 #518

Too late gollygee Jun 2015 #526

Thanks for the info, gollygee. nt pnwmom Jun 2015 #527

Now we're into the realm of metaphysics and neurolinguistics, at which point KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #19

So offensive how men make light of a woman being insulted in the most MoonRiver Jun 2015 #22

If you're not arguing we should allow n****r as well- bettyellen Jun 2015 #33

I'm not saying we should allow anything Zamen Jun 2015 #40

Sorry, but that word...the c word and others... prairierose Jun 2015 #228

But this is my point Zamen Jun 2015 #235

You have a mother, and maybe a wife or daughter. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #254

I wouldn't be happy with anyone calling them any rude or offensive term Zamen Jun 2015 #264

Agreed. Let's stop insulting each other. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #275

Agreed Zamen Jun 2015 #281

This is the only thing I will say to you... prairierose Jun 2015 #280

If one guy calls another guy a "dick" Zamen Jun 2015 #284

You are ignoring the centuries in which treestar Jun 2015 #370

Have you been alive for centuries? Zamen Jun 2015 #371

Of course not. treestar Jun 2015 #372

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #376

You do not even have the liberal attitude towards treestar Jun 2015 #387

If we're going to discuss whether everyone is treated equally today, that's one thing Zamen Jun 2015 #388

Acknowledging the past maltreatment of a gorup of people is "appropriate the suffering"? uppityperson Jun 2015 #391

Acknowledging is one thing Zamen Jun 2015 #393

What "special treatment" is expected, and by whom? What do you mean? uppityperson Jun 2015 #396

Anyone who thinks they should be allowed to insult and offend others with impunity Zamen Jun 2015 #399

Seems you are one of those who wants to "be allowed to insult and offend others with impunity" uppityperson Jun 2015 #402

I just want the hypocrisy to end Zamen Jun 2015 #404

What hypocrisy? uppityperson Jun 2015 #406

Who thinks that? Where are you getting this from??? cui bono Jun 2015 #511

Language can in fact (and has... and yet still does) factor into the collective repression of a mino LanternWaste Jun 2015 #528

Do you feel the same way about n****r? Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #128

So can we assume nichomachus Jun 2015 #94

Yes, but everyone has an asshole. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #103

Balls and prick/dick seem to be acceptable, however. Jeez. erronis Jun 2015 #126

What about "dick"? robbob Jun 2015 #130

It's only gendered in the sense Zamen Jun 2015 #138

But the argument was nichomachus Jun 2015 #168

Same in Australia. I don't use the word at all. 1: It offends people here, but most importantly.. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #15

The Aussie and UK angle brings up a funny, if tangential, joke: KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #17

LOL! Good one! BlueJazz Jun 2015 #25

As Churchill said, Americans and Brits are two peoples divided by a common language. hifiguy Jun 2015 #241

and of course we know how non-superior the British feel through history still_one Jun 2015 #197

The F word is offensive "but I wouldn't go as far as to call it homophobic." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #34

Too bad if you wouldn't.. it is. Cha Jun 2015 #37

du spends far more space discussing pc and perceived insults than politics Doctor_J Jun 2015 #42

No, it does not. But we get your point. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #50

well, this thread will soon be over 200 replies, Ida's thread has over 600 Doctor_J Jun 2015 #201

blah blah blah. And you're contributing to this one. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #211

Thank you. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #59

I don't understand the need for all the insults, no matter which candidate one supports. deurbano Jun 2015 #364

But the hof is determined to keep this alive for as long as possible, primarily to Doctor_J Jun 2015 #503

I don't support Clinton and I'm not involved with HOF, but still, I took the time to post. deurbano Jun 2015 #507

You probably think awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #285

Depends where you live LeftishBrit Jun 2015 #408

It is offensive whathehell Jun 2015 #480

Once again, thank you Boston Bean! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #5

. boston bean Jun 2015 #100

BB MoonRiver Jun 2015 #114

Sorry, but Glitterati Jun 2015 #8

And you do not speak for ME, a feminist woman. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #10

Boston Bean speaks for me.. Little Star Jun 2015 #11

And yet the OP does not imply she speaks for 'all women' she is speaking her own mind and that Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #12

OMG ann--- Jun 2015 #14

+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #52

Please tell me, exactly how do you view that word, the "C" word? notadmblnd Jun 2015 #116

Is it not kind of obvious? treestar Jun 2015 #132

No, I don't think it is obvious. At lease to me it isn't notadmblnd Jun 2015 #186

It's obvious to any woman who has feared being sexually assaulted, MoonRiver Jun 2015 #229

Yep. The anger when it's said.. boston bean Jun 2015 #246

Yes, at that point it's fight or flee. We can't fight someone who is twice our size. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #262

So you think phil89 Jun 2015 #361

Of course. And every woman here knows that. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #362

A guy who uses that word has contempt for women treestar Jun 2015 #374

That's not true at all Zamen Jun 2015 #378

Because women know when they are being mistreated, insulted, demeaned, believe it or not... boston bean Jun 2015 #436

fwiw, they are flagged for review uppityperson Jun 2015 #438

oh good. thanks for letting me know. nt boston bean Jun 2015 #441

However, they'll be back, I am sure uppityperson Jun 2015 #442

tedious is a word that comes to mind.. boston bean Jun 2015 #455

What a complete mischaracterization of the OP. Whether an intentional mischaracterization, or not, prayin4rain Jun 2015 #20

Exactly, prayin4rain.. what's the motivation behind going ballistic on the OP for nothing? Cha Jun 2015 #49

I guess seeing a woman stand up against the establishment causes anxiety prayin4rain Jun 2015 #294

I lost any respect I ever had for people who chose to feign ignorance and mischacterize Cha Jun 2015 #471

I was a little put off by your post. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #21

So, fill us in. What's she saying? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #23

I'll try. I believe she's saying: Look, I'm an individual..I'm a woman who defines my own life. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #31

That's a lot of reading between the lines, but even if you're correct MoonRiver Jun 2015 #35

Also, I was speaking of people who do speak out about misogynistic language.. boston bean Jun 2015 #39

To me, it's a tough subject. Depending on a individual's personal thoughts, it's rather akin to... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #57

I'm not following at all.. sorry. boston bean Jun 2015 #60

See, I told you it was a difficult subject for me. Maybe I'm not following the obvious.... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #65

You got it, BlueJazz Glitterati Jun 2015 #77

Where does the post say you had to? treestar Jun 2015 #101

so the c word is off limits but questionseverything Jun 2015 #352

Thank you. I can say: I got something right out of this subject. I liked what you wrote. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #106

A woman can still be a ann--- Jun 2015 #93

Yeah that's a little strange treestar Jun 2015 #104

Nice creative speculation. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #125

Don't make such a big deal of it treestar Jun 2015 #98

Yeah, BB is not speaking for all women, it's very clear that we are not all alike. She even made seaglass Jun 2015 #27

She speaks for me. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #45

What are you getting all bent out of shape for? boston bean is not even saying she speaks for "all Cha Jun 2015 #47

/facepalm n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #66

+1000 marym625 Jun 2015 #78

So would you say that about the N word? treestar Jun 2015 #109

No, I wouldn't marym625 Jun 2015 #124

Are you actually advising African Americans treestar Jun 2015 #131

Again, no I wouldn't marym625 Jun 2015 #153

No one is speaking for you treestar Jun 2015 #192

The OP makes declarations marym625 Jun 2015 #200

It is called "in group" usage to take back the word. boston bean Jun 2015 #134

True. And no way would a poster not be banned treestar Jun 2015 #140

Any word meant to demean anyone marym625 Jun 2015 #162

Again, it is not the WORD as it stands alone as 4 letters. boston bean Jun 2015 #167

and the power of the word us given by the reaction to it. marym625 Jun 2015 #170

No it is not. boston bean Jun 2015 #172

If that were true marym625 Jun 2015 #178

What?? boston bean Jun 2015 #182

No I am not straight marym625 Jun 2015 #188

ok, so what if a straight person said them to you in an insulting derogatory demeaning fashion. boston bean Jun 2015 #191

It was homophobic straight people that said it to me marym625 Jun 2015 #196

So you would actually use those words on DU? treestar Jun 2015 #199

You mean like when we ride our Harleys in the Pride Parade marym625 Jun 2015 #215

The Dykes on bikes decided to call themselves that treestar Jun 2015 #221

I'm not going to get into what he meant or didn't mean. marym625 Jun 2015 #230

He got banned for it treestar Jun 2015 #238

I don't believe he was doing anything but mocking the troll. marym625 Jun 2015 #256

Ok, another question, cause I'm curious as to what you are meaning. boston bean Jun 2015 #227

I'm sorry. I don't understand your question marym625 Jun 2015 #231

Sorry.... Not sure how to put it... LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #236

Some guy in California marym625 Jun 2015 #248

If it is in group usage, I agree, that guy was an asshole. boston bean Jun 2015 #286

The kkk doesn't do anything but try to insult marym625 Jun 2015 #295

thank you Mary. nice to have a good conversation. much appreciated. boston bean Jun 2015 #297

see what we can accomplish? :) eom marym625 Jun 2015 #300

a Bernie and a Hillary supporter... whoda thunk it!? LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #303

Now, let's do the same on the issues marym625 Jun 2015 #305

Well, Mary... boston bean Jun 2015 #204

Exactly and that's why we protest using them treestar Jun 2015 #205

That's your right to feel that way marym625 Jun 2015 #218

Me too. cwydro Jun 2015 #437

exactly marym625 Jun 2015 #472

I'll pm you. cwydro Jun 2015 #473

Can't wait marym625 Jun 2015 #474

"It is a reality for women to be thought of as nothing but genitalia." Zamen Jun 2015 #345

enough of for it to be an issue. any other questions? boston bean Jun 2015 #347

I don't agree that the issue is as big as you're claiming Zamen Jun 2015 #349

Of course you don't. I never would have thought you would. nt boston bean Jun 2015 #350

I look forward to speaking with you much more in the future Zamen Jun 2015 #354

Maybe in your next reincarnation. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #517

You are exactly correct Glitterati Jun 2015 #193

yep. marym625 Jun 2015 #206

Waste of time Glitterati Jun 2015 #216

I honestly think that Boston bean and treestar marym625 Jun 2015 #226

Stop talking about other posters and treestar Jun 2015 #244

seriously? marym625 Jun 2015 #259

You were talking ABOUT me treestar Jun 2015 #375

Their implied professions of being able to read minds hifiguy Jun 2015 #253

Armchair psychology Glitterati Jun 2015 #288

So true. And there are never any consequences for that behavior. hifiguy Jun 2015 #292

I was at least half wrong there marym625 Jun 2015 #271

So you would seriously say that to black people? treestar Jun 2015 #217

In case you hadn't noticed, treestar Glitterati Jun 2015 #224

It's a valid comparison treestar Jun 2015 #247

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha Glitterati Jun 2015 #252

But you still haven't answered about the N word treestar Jun 2015 #267

Nothing you say is valid Glitterati Jun 2015 #270

You are speaking with someone Puglover Jun 2015 #310

Not surprised Glitterati Jun 2015 #313

That and marinating in the Puglover Jun 2015 #320

Outrage Glitterati Jun 2015 #322

Except when someone says something you find to be bigoted, right? boston bean Jun 2015 #323

Telling a group of people that they don't need equal rights is Puglover Jun 2015 #327

Well, may I attempt to tell you how all the defenses of this boston bean Jun 2015 #333

You see I believe that bigotry resides in all of our hearts. Puglover Jun 2015 #337

So, are you saying speaking out about it is harming the cause? boston bean Jun 2015 #339

I think maybe one of the differences between you and Puglover Jun 2015 #343

Nor do I think DU is my real life. boston bean Jun 2015 #346

Thanks nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #439

Exactly. And I did not say what they said treestar Jun 2015 #383

Please show me a post where I said what NYCSkp said Puglover Jun 2015 #445

OK so you think it's not OK to say that. treestar Jun 2015 #449

"Rabid hatred." Puglover Jun 2015 #450

Whose dirty work? treestar Jun 2015 #381

Of course you take that out of context treestar Jun 2015 #380

Of course that is what you always say. Puglover Jun 2015 #420

PL pecwae Jun 2015 #512

Well that's pointless treestar Jun 2015 #377

I can imagine this. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #312

The average black person is about as powerful as the average white person Zamen Jun 2015 #329

But I'm not talking about average people. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #336

We have to talk about average people if we're going to make any point Zamen Jun 2015 #338

So they should think nothing of being called the N word treestar Jun 2015 #384

Yes, I've heard black people say that very thing. cheapdate Jun 2015 #341

Lenny Bruce was making that very argument hifiguy Jun 2015 #249

+1 nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #156

OK so a Hillary supporter treestar Jun 2015 #203

Yep, they took the "magic" out of those words. Can be done with any valerief Jun 2015 #160

exactly! marym625 Jun 2015 #163

This straight supporter of LGBYQ was going to name call you Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #214

LMAO! marym625 Jun 2015 #220

Oh baloney, the use of the word is what keeps the hate alive treestar Jun 2015 #202

The words today are powerfully disrespectful - pretending that bigots are improving society by bettyellen Jun 2015 #223

good description of it treestar Jun 2015 #255

And you don't mercuryblues Jun 2015 #79

Good post Mercury! boston bean Jun 2015 #145

Sounding almost like a right winger today treestar Jun 2015 #95

Relax! Texasgal Jun 2015 #108

She's not speaking for all women. She is speaking from a broader context of language and culture. Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #151

You are free to submit yourself to degradation BainsBane Jun 2015 #483

ROFL Glitterati Jun 2015 #531

And you don't get to say that it's OK for people to call other women kiva Jun 2015 #501

Really? Glitterati Jun 2015 #532

This is sort of like talking to a child. kiva Jun 2015 #535

You're correct Glitterati Jun 2015 #536

A lot of men do not like to be called a D*ck, or D%ckhead or As^hole or any of the many accepted LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #24

Not all insults are created equal. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

Yes we know Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #36

Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #96

Agreed. Nt Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #107

You don't get to have it both ways. Either all pejoratives are equally Exilednight Jun 2015 #62

Quit using irrefutable logic. hifiguy Jun 2015 #265

Please don't address this here. boston bean Jun 2015 #67

Maybe that is the point. n/t MoonRiver Jun 2015 #76

Sorry but you do not get to tell us Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #83

Did I tell you what to do? boston bean Jun 2015 #85

"Misandry"???? MicaelS Jun 2015 #88

Oh, the poor things treestar Jun 2015 #115

So are you saying none of those things happen? 7962 Jun 2015 #208

It doesn't affect Chris Christie treestar Jun 2015 #213

How do you know it doesnt affect him? He may be hurt a great deal by it. 7962 Jun 2015 #222

We're talking about societal effects treestar Jun 2015 #233

"An obese female would never be governor despite her abilities." Zamen Jun 2015 #225

Name a female politician treestar Jun 2015 #240

It might just be that obese women are less interested in going in to politics Zamen Jun 2015 #243

Oh so it's the old choice thing treestar Jun 2015 #276

It's more plausible Zamen Jun 2015 #289

There's some reason to consider it less likely to happen though treestar Jun 2015 #298

Less likely, maybe, but that could be for any number of different reasons Zamen Jun 2015 #304

Not sure why you say that. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #328

Maggie De Block, Belgium's most popular politician. Has to be 300lbs 7962 Jun 2015 #293

Very interesting treestar Jun 2015 #302

You're right Zamen Jun 2015 #342

Because anything other than a monologue is misogyny. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #105

No, but to be respectful to what the discussion is about and other persons space. boston bean Jun 2015 #113

Sorry, no. The internet is not "your space". lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #119

Did I say it was my space? boston bean Jun 2015 #129

It's not rude to put things into context Zamen Jun 2015 #148

What context is that? boston bean Jun 2015 #155

Aren't there special groups for threads where you don't want people barging in? Zamen Jun 2015 #161

I wouldn't know.. what do you know about it? nt boston bean Jun 2015 #174

I was under the impression that there were certain protected groups Zamen Jun 2015 #177

good impression. glad your finding your way around.. took me a lot longer than 53 posts. boston bean Jun 2015 #179

You're correct. Will not address the derailers. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #307

They have refused to start their own thread... maybe you could start one for them.. LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #309

Like that time Jon Stewart was misandrist geek tragedy Jun 2015 #314

They could use GD/DU discuss their issues boston bean Jun 2015 #315

What about the menz? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #316

I don't mind having the discussion, it's just that they demand boston bean Jun 2015 #319

That's probably because it's not the slur itself which is the issue Zamen Jun 2015 #317

very true Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #330

We know there is a double standard. MicaelS Jun 2015 #92

Yes there is Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #141

Because they are not as grave an insult. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #306

How is it not as grave? Zamen Jun 2015 #321

Here's the test. pintobean Jun 2015 #331

As Buzz would say... Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #68

Asshole is nongender specific treestar Jun 2015 #111

wll then alert on it mercuryblues Jun 2015 #183

If you find those words demeaning, you should call them out where you see them, just as Boston Bean Squinch Jun 2015 #190

I know someone named Richard who refused to be called Dick progressoid Jun 2015 #502

K&R (nt) LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #26

It's magic word time! valerief Jun 2015 #28

What's magic about it? pintobean Jun 2015 #75

Good find Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #147

It wasn't a find pintobean Jun 2015 #189

That some are allowed to remain after useing that word and others are not Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #198

So he should have been banned? pintobean Jun 2015 #207

I think both should have been hidden Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #209

The results are in! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #91

Ha! Thanks. valerief Jun 2015 #118

Come on - want a lot of replies use the "C" word packman Jun 2015 #32

Those who don't think the c-word is misogynistic don't think the n-word is racist. nt. LexVegas Jun 2015 #38

^^^This^^^n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #58

words matter peasant one Jun 2015 #44

Very true. Thank you for your thoughts. boston bean Jun 2015 #51

What's with the asterisk? diamondhead Jun 2015 #48

I agree, it is ridiculous.. but I have had posts hidden when deriding the derogatory usage boston bean Jun 2015 #53

Can we call a guy a cwydro Jun 2015 #54

Would it be possible for you to start your own thread. boston bean Jun 2015 #55

He brings up a fair point and dovetails nicely into your OP. Exilednight Jun 2015 #69

This thread is about misogynistic language. boston bean Jun 2015 #70

Your silence speaks volumes when someone else brings a valid point and then Exilednight Jun 2015 #80

That kind of hypocrisy from some here hifiguy Jun 2015 #123

I'm actually a she. cwydro Jun 2015 #81

I sincerely apologize. Exilednight Jun 2015 #135

Lol...guess what? cwydro Jun 2015 #146

Yes she does Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #86

Nope. cwydro Jun 2015 #82

Go ahead. Make my day. Call me a duck. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #56

Why a duck? Why a no chicken? RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #74

Ats-a no good. hifiguy Jun 2015 #127

Lol! cwydro Jun 2015 #136

I think we should not treestar Jun 2015 #121

No. That would make you a *****. nt valerief Jun 2015 #122

Misogynistic speech is hate speech. It is that simple. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #61

Google is your friend RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #72

Funny the lack of outrage Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #90

If I as a male sufferered from repression and worse historically in the face of a superior.... marble falls Jun 2015 #169

What has anyone suffered historically? Zamen Jun 2015 #272

Tell that Trevon Martin or Malala Yousafzai. "It had nothing to with being black or a woman." marble falls Jun 2015 #348

Why would I tell them that? Zamen Jun 2015 #351

You probably don't want to search on DU and "asshole" nichomachus Jun 2015 #97

Well, at least that's an equal opportunity epithet n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #99

True, we all have them Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #112

Interestingly enough, the French word "con" is generally used to mean one.... RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #117

Or "putz." nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #133

Yes! Yiddish is a veritable treasure trove of such words. n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #139

I am not Jewish but I love Yiddish hifiguy Jun 2015 #149

Me neither. And I agree. RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #157

Oy, I know. It's enough to make you meshuggah. hifiguy Jun 2015 #282

Ah, I forgot that wonderful farce (Dîner de Cons) erronis Jun 2015 #152

Such a good point treestar Jun 2015 #89

counter bad ideas and bad words with better ideas and better words bluestateguy Jun 2015 #110

So you think repulsive, insulting and even sexually aggressive words MoonRiver Jun 2015 #120

Yes. TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #142

There will be crickets or cries of deflection. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #173

Ahhhhh.. the Word Police on DU are here... please post all the words we are not allowed to use. TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #137

There is really only one word we need to focus on: RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #150

"Make no mistake you are judged by your words..." Rex Jun 2015 #143

So start with a very good line you wrote... Township75 Jun 2015 #159

What about tw*t"? cwydro Jun 2015 #164

Thought for today: marble falls Jun 2015 #175

Lol! cwydro Jun 2015 #185

why was one allowed to stay? Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #165

You will have to direct your question to admin on that. boston bean Jun 2015 #171

If the OP is reffering to NYC_SKP's recent ban... mylye2222 Jun 2015 #166

And he didn't even use the actual word. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #176

and another active DU member Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #180

And so it goes. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #187

jury results H2O Man Jun 2015 #283

Thank you. And, as a friend always says, end scene. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #334

The term is meant to insult BainsBane Jun 2015 #379

Insulting and offending people is not the same as bigotry Zamen Jun 2015 #382

Sometimes insults are bigoted though. People use bigotry to insult but not all insults are bigotry uppityperson Jun 2015 #385

Sometimes, but not in this case Zamen Jun 2015 #386

Yes, it was misogyny, a form of prejudice and the action of writing it made it into bigotry uppityperson Jun 2015 #389

There's no evidence of any dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice Zamen Jun 2015 #392

Insulting someone with a prejudicial, misogynistic term = bigotry. uppityperson Jun 2015 #394

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #395

Using a perjorative slur, female based, is showing contempt specifically against women uppityperson Jun 2015 #400

It's showing contempt against the specific woman it was directed at Zamen Jun 2015 #401

by using a female based pejorative slur. uppityperson Jun 2015 #403

Well bless your heart. TL/DR GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #492

It's about context... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #258

Oh come on! Don't spoil things. We're on a roll here! n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #184

Maybe we need to reconsider putting a woman in the White House nichomachus Jun 2015 #181

I tend to agree Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #194

Excellent point hifiguy Jun 2015 #301

FFS so ignore all of history treestar Jun 2015 #210

Why does history matter? davidn3600 Jun 2015 #290

Inane false equivalecy. Just look how women are viewed historically up to today still_one Jun 2015 #212

Are you serious?... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #219

Women are an OPPRESSED class gollygee Jun 2015 #237

How so? Zamen Jun 2015 #359

By now it should be clear nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #234

It should be pretty clear by now that actually a lot of people agree with me. boston bean Jun 2015 #239

I did not call you a thing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #242

uh huh.. it's there for all to read... boston bean Jun 2015 #251

My apologies you took your advocacy as an attack nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #260

Please do me a favor and never post to me again as you say, after what you called me in your boston bean Jun 2015 #277

Unbelievable that a poster would think calling another poster zappaman Jun 2015 #250

I am sorry that you missed why it came up to my mind nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #257

Oh, I got what you were saying and so did the jury. zappaman Jun 2015 #266

Whatever dude nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #299

You just posted a few days ago that you IP ban people from your blog. R B Garr Jun 2015 #390

I am sorry, once again nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #397

That is utter baloney. boston bean Jun 2015 #407

My apologies that I was not clear in stating that you were rather muscular nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #409

Except that wasn't what was being conveyed I presume. boston bean Jun 2015 #410

It was, I am sorry for lack of clarity nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #411

I'll consider the apology, as I don't buy the excuse/explanation boston bean Jun 2015 #413

I am going to avoid walking on egg shells with you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #415

Yes, nadin, you are the victim here..... boston bean Jun 2015 #417

If that is YOUR INTERPRETATION that is fine nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #418

You sure are good at trying to make someone else be at fault. boston bean Jun 2015 #419

Nope, just pointed out a reality nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #421

cute and clever.. again.. boston bean Jun 2015 #422

Not cute, nor clever, the way I feel nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #424

blaming me again for something you did... nice. boston bean Jun 2015 #426

I am not blaming you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #429

right the case for the reason I came to mind the moment boston bean Jun 2015 #431

I already clarified the point nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #432

You're a published author and "Reporter, editor, and wonk." pintobean Jun 2015 #414

Except aparently me nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #416

You're a newspaper reporter and you post here under your own name? gollygee Jun 2015 #423

Yeah a lot has chanced since you did that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #427

I didn't do police beat for very long gollygee Jun 2015 #430

We do quite a bit of that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #448

ah another post telling us stupid, ungrateful peons what you won't post about Kali Jun 2015 #456

Nope nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #460

Yes. zappaman Jun 2015 #461

"So those posts will not get though." sic. Wow, that sounds worse than here if it's R B Garr Jun 2015 #433

Only if you intend to tell me nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #435

Eggshells are crunchy. pintobean Jun 2015 #443

Of course they are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #447

See, I hate to tell you this, but you've just destroyed any real objections R B Garr Jun 2015 #444

Well, you are free to your opinion nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #446

That's quite an unfair characterization of what really happened, which is R B Garr Jun 2015 #453

cognitive dissonance, it's an amazing thing.... boston bean Jun 2015 #458

Yes, it looks that way. R B Garr Jun 2015 #516

I got no idea how long you have been here nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #459

Wow, that's a boatload of stuff. I don't want to get into a rock-paper-scissors R B Garr Jun 2015 #515

It is partly about it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #521

I don't think the Democrats who are running are clowns. zappaman Jun 2015 #522

Correct. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #523

Thought she was being clever about it. pintobean Jun 2015 #261

Yeah, the OP deleted what she was referring to, but we all know boston bean Jun 2015 #263

It was a poor attempt at being insulting and nasty. zappaman Jun 2015 #273

Not that this simple fact ever stopped them Glitterati Jun 2015 #245

It's like arguing with the fundies about the age of the earth. hifiguy Jun 2015 #308

LOL, yeah Glitterati Jun 2015 #311

just another word for the taboo list DustyJoe Jun 2015 #278

Opinion vs Fact: My opinion is that you are attempting to make a larger point IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #287

That, Ida, is one freaking brilliant post. hifiguy Jun 2015 #324

Thank you Ida. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #340

Summed it up perfectly Zamen Jun 2015 #344

I believe the 8th Amendment prohibits this post Prism Jun 2015 #373

+X100 840high Jun 2015 #493

Brava! marym625 Jun 2015 #525

I remember in qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #291

Excellent post. boston bean Jun 2015 #296

misogynistic language has no place here - use of that word deserves significant consequences DrDan Jun 2015 #353

How is it misogynistic language? Zamen Jun 2015 #355

cute DrDan Jun 2015 #356

It's a simple enough question Zamen Jun 2015 #357

Its perfectly ok to call someone a "douchebag", however. undeterred Jun 2015 #358

I don't particularly like douchebag either... boston bean Jun 2015 #363

Agreed. undeterred Jun 2015 #405

Hold on, wait. You need to start at the beginning: Zenlitened Jun 2015 #412

That made me giggle... boston bean Jun 2015 #454

Happy to lend a giggle. :) Zenlitened Jun 2015 #477

The Feminazis daredtowork Jun 2015 #425

I feel bad for people who fall for right wing tropes. boston bean Jun 2015 #428

Rightwing tropes created the Tea Party daredtowork Jun 2015 #434

What is working for the tea party? Bigotry?? boston bean Jun 2015 #462

hmm, I don't think you realize how you sound daredtowork Jun 2015 #463

I think the last word coming from someone who says they understand boston bean Jun 2015 #464

I agree with you - how does that insult you personally? daredtowork Jun 2015 #465

I am responding to denials, excuses, and derailments. boston bean Jun 2015 #466

Very Well Then: Your Services Are Needed in This Thread daredtowork Jun 2015 #467

You now want me to go back to a thread in 2013... boston bean Jun 2015 #468

The wrongness of misogyny has changed since 2013? LOL. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #469

No it hasn't and since you joined in 2014, you really wouldn't know boston bean Jun 2015 #470

It's not a question of enforcement back in 2013 daredtowork Jun 2015 #475

That you think my motivation is due to hillary versus Bernie is just flat out false. boston bean Jun 2015 #478

I don't want you to go back in time: Nye Bevan posted a current thread daredtowork Jun 2015 #479

Yes you do. You have my blessing. Please help. boston bean Jun 2015 #485

Lecturing on indirect allusions to the C word is your mission, not mine. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #487

Oh so you don't really care. Why the demands then. boston bean Jun 2015 #489

It's up to you daredtowork Jun 2015 #504

I will thanks for allowing me that. Nt boston bean Jun 2015 #505

What I'm seeing is a lot of whining about not being able to use slurs with impunity. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #451

+1 n/t tammywammy Jun 2015 #452

The C-word ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #481

Did you read the op? boston bean Jun 2015 #482

Uh, yeah ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #486

Of course not because your summarization of the meaning of it boston bean Jun 2015 #488

But that's the point. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #494

I don't think I told anyone in this thread what words to use. boston bean Jun 2015 #495

And I know of no man ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #499

Nance you know something you are so off base about me boston bean Jun 2015 #500

I understand where you're coming from. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #506

I'l revert back to words are what we use to identify someone who boston bean Jun 2015 #513

Oh, I get it now. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #530

Yes it doesn't take a rocket scientist. boston bean Jun 2015 #533

I have quoted your OP ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #534

Nance, you're trying to use facts and logic. You're not in touch with the feelings. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #496

The C word here is CONTEXT diamondhead Jun 2015 #497

Well said, Nance marym625 Jun 2015 #514

Beautifully said. Puglover Jun 2015 #524

Be Impeccable with your Word, chervilant Jun 2015 #484

"…in a derogatory manner…"? tularetom Jun 2015 #490

When discussing the word itself and why it is misogynist. boston bean Jun 2015 #491

When you use the "*", leave out the "u". Don't write the word. morningfog Jun 2015 #498

I'll accept a woman being called the "C" word on this board the day that it's acceptable Beacool Jun 2015 #508

Because even though they tell us we already have equal rights, Jamastiene Jun 2015 #519

Notice that most of the insults against men are really against women. Beacool Jun 2015 #529

Exactly. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #538

yes and... tanbrown Jun 2015 #539

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #520

'In the Guild,' said the Fool, 'we learned that words can be more powerful even than magic.' Hekate Jun 2015 #509

Thanks tanbrown Jun 2015 #537

Excellent post! Thank you so much for sharing! boston bean Jun 2015 #540