Malaysia: HISTORIC JUDGMENT. Bush & Associates Found Guilty of Torture

[grantcart]

55. Well we are moving in the right direction

We have moved from the ignorant statement of

And somehow that gives you the right to moan and piss about some Malaysian hardly anyone ever heard of before?

to the irrelevent observation that

More people know Obama and attacks on him are all over the news, too.

(To clue you in the number of people that knew about the show trial of Anwar Ibrahim is irrelevent the relevent point is that Malaysia is known for having show trials for political reasons)

You did ask this question

The message is being lost in your attack and do you know what the message is? HUh? Do you? Can you fess up and tell us what the message is?

I never attacked anyone. I informed. I lived in Asia for 20 years and had a diplomatic posting in Malaysia. I like Malaysians and liked most of the people I worked with. I am not attacking either the OP or the people or government of Malaysia. I am relating relevent facts that you can absorb and use to inform your world view or you can continue with an irrelevent line of hyperbolic nonsense and expose to the few dozen people reading this thread the the fact that you get so committed to a particular point that you cannot absorb new relevent information that might have a bearing.

Now what is relevent about the trial of Anwar Ibrahim to this point? Asia doesn't usually engage in show trials. Even China will have a 5 minute trial behind closed doors when it wants to dispatch a foe to the regime.

Malaysia's judiciary is unique in that they were used by the Prime Minister as a lap dog on what is widely considered the most ridiculous show trial in Asia over the last 40 years in which a respected reformer was humiliated with false charges of sodomy in order to try and eliminate him as a political force. They are still using these false charges today to keep him from power.

So for people that are not aware of what is happening in Malaysia you can go ahead and make a big deal out of it. If however you intend to communicate with anyone who is aware of what is happening in Malaysia then you actually will be undermining your case that this is legitimate because there is a great deal of scorn and anger, especially among progressives, against the Malaysian judiciary.

Upthread someone states people will not listen because the "enemy of my enemy is my friend".

To that I paraphrase "beware of the enemy of your enemy because sometimes they are batshit crazy and using them as a source will make some people think that your point of view is as flawed as theirs".

Carry on.