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deurbano

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507. I don't support Clinton and I'm not involved with HOF, but still, I took the time to post.

Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:29 PM

Jun 2015

I'm also not trying to keep alive some narrative, and I don't want the poster banned. So... maybe I am just genuinely concerned about the sexism I mentioned. And yes, Clinton does seem to be a lightning rod for some of the worst impulses from both right wing assholes and some self-identified progressives. I could see a continuing debate about whether the poster should be banned or not, but not about whether it is appropriate in a Democratic forum to call a woman's actions cunt-ish... or to call a woman a cunt. (Any woman, much less a Democratic candidate.) The defense of that is alarming, which is why I (with my very low post count for someone who has been here since 2002) would bother to comment.

I can't stand the idea of a repeat of 2008, but I'm not sure any lessons were learned:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/pressing-issues-by-digby-blogosphere-is.html

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Misogynistic language.... [View all] boston bean Jun 2015 OP

Anyone who directs that word at anyone is just cwydro Jun 2015 #1

Excuse me, but... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #2

Ask Earl G bettyellen Jun 2015 #29

+1 The perfect response. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #46

But it's much more fun to whine and complain incessantly. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #102

I don't seem to be the one doing that... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #365

Do you ask people to interpret what you owns eyes are capable of? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #366

K&R mcar Jun 2015 #3

It might be offensive Zamen Jun 2015 #4

I cannot believe you just said that. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #6

In the UK, it is still a perjorative but lacks the purely anti-woman connotations it KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #7

Well if it was directed at all women, then possibly Zamen Jun 2015 #9

Insofar as the term, as used in the U.S., reduces a woman to one of her KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #13

That's a bit melodramatic Zamen Jun 2015 #16

The power isn't in the word, it's in the reality of the culture where boston bean Jun 2015 #18

Only the person using those words knows how they really think Zamen Jun 2015 #41

That is just ridiculous. boston bean Jun 2015 #43

I speculate that was an insult. beevul Jun 2015 #63

When I am having a conversation or read something, I understand intent. boston bean Jun 2015 #64

What about in ambiguous situations? beevul Jun 2015 #71

Possibly it is those who feel it was ambiguous that have an issue with clearly understanding? boston bean Jun 2015 #73

Possibly its those who rush to condemn who also rushed to a (mis)understanding. beevul Jun 2015 #84

uh huh... boston bean Jun 2015 #87

Why is his intent not to be decided by everyone on their own? treestar Jun 2015 #195

It goes to the nature of the thing. beevul Jun 2015 #541

You want it both ways. You claim everyone else misunderstood, but Exilednight Jun 2015 #398

The times I've had to witness its use were never ever ambiguous. How could it possibly be used..... marble falls Jun 2015 #144

When it is not used, but assigned as the result of a mind-reading tantrum. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #158

The use of this word in our country lark Jun 2015 #232

It's a word meant to demean people - usually, but not exclusively, women Zamen Jun 2015 #268

How is it different? treestar Jun 2015 #269

Exactly Zamen Jun 2015 #274

the N word can be used to demean whoever it is directed at treestar Jun 2015 #279

Totally disagree lark Jun 2015 #325

That's not true in my experience Zamen Jun 2015 #326

When it is used on a guy, lark Jun 2015 #332

So is calling a guy a part of the male anatomy a put down for men? Zamen Jun 2015 #335

That is the exact same argument that BreakfastClub Jun 2015 #457

If you are standing on my foot, it doesn't matter if it is an accident or deliberate KitSileya Jun 2015 #318

I don't think women have made it clear, actually Zamen Jun 2015 #360

Classic misogyny treestar Jun 2015 #367

Ah yes, "the irrational little woman" argument. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #368

+1 treestar Jun 2015 #369

Yep, and, wait for it, "it's that time of the month, honey. You'll think more MoonRiver Jun 2015 #440

Oh boy... you really should stop now. cui bono Jun 2015 #510

Well what does the usage of the word "dick" tell us about how people think about men? Zamen Jun 2015 #154

yes it is Skittles Jun 2015 #476

We can do more than speculate. The person who uses the C word knows how most women feel about it pnwmom Jun 2015 #518

Too late gollygee Jun 2015 #526

Thanks for the info, gollygee. nt pnwmom Jun 2015 #527

Now we're into the realm of metaphysics and neurolinguistics, at which point KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #19

So offensive how men make light of a woman being insulted in the most MoonRiver Jun 2015 #22

If you're not arguing we should allow n****r as well- bettyellen Jun 2015 #33

I'm not saying we should allow anything Zamen Jun 2015 #40

Sorry, but that word...the c word and others... prairierose Jun 2015 #228

But this is my point Zamen Jun 2015 #235

You have a mother, and maybe a wife or daughter. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #254

I wouldn't be happy with anyone calling them any rude or offensive term Zamen Jun 2015 #264

Agreed. Let's stop insulting each other. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #275

Agreed Zamen Jun 2015 #281

This is the only thing I will say to you... prairierose Jun 2015 #280

If one guy calls another guy a "dick" Zamen Jun 2015 #284

You are ignoring the centuries in which treestar Jun 2015 #370

Have you been alive for centuries? Zamen Jun 2015 #371

Of course not. treestar Jun 2015 #372

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #376

You do not even have the liberal attitude towards treestar Jun 2015 #387

If we're going to discuss whether everyone is treated equally today, that's one thing Zamen Jun 2015 #388

Acknowledging the past maltreatment of a gorup of people is "appropriate the suffering"? uppityperson Jun 2015 #391

Acknowledging is one thing Zamen Jun 2015 #393

What "special treatment" is expected, and by whom? What do you mean? uppityperson Jun 2015 #396

Anyone who thinks they should be allowed to insult and offend others with impunity Zamen Jun 2015 #399

Seems you are one of those who wants to "be allowed to insult and offend others with impunity" uppityperson Jun 2015 #402

I just want the hypocrisy to end Zamen Jun 2015 #404

What hypocrisy? uppityperson Jun 2015 #406

Who thinks that? Where are you getting this from??? cui bono Jun 2015 #511

Language can in fact (and has... and yet still does) factor into the collective repression of a mino LanternWaste Jun 2015 #528

Do you feel the same way about n****r? Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #128

So can we assume nichomachus Jun 2015 #94

Yes, but everyone has an asshole. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #103

Balls and prick/dick seem to be acceptable, however. Jeez. erronis Jun 2015 #126

What about "dick"? robbob Jun 2015 #130

It's only gendered in the sense Zamen Jun 2015 #138

But the argument was nichomachus Jun 2015 #168

Same in Australia. I don't use the word at all. 1: It offends people here, but most importantly.. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #15

The Aussie and UK angle brings up a funny, if tangential, joke: KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #17

LOL! Good one! BlueJazz Jun 2015 #25

As Churchill said, Americans and Brits are two peoples divided by a common language. hifiguy Jun 2015 #241

and of course we know how non-superior the British feel through history still_one Jun 2015 #197

The F word is offensive "but I wouldn't go as far as to call it homophobic." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #34

Too bad if you wouldn't.. it is. Cha Jun 2015 #37

du spends far more space discussing pc and perceived insults than politics Doctor_J Jun 2015 #42

No, it does not. But we get your point. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #50

well, this thread will soon be over 200 replies, Ida's thread has over 600 Doctor_J Jun 2015 #201

blah blah blah. And you're contributing to this one. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #211

Thank you. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #59

I don't understand the need for all the insults, no matter which candidate one supports. deurbano Jun 2015 #364

But the hof is determined to keep this alive for as long as possible, primarily to Doctor_J Jun 2015 #503

I don't support Clinton and I'm not involved with HOF, but still, I took the time to post. deurbano Jun 2015 #507

You probably think awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #285

Depends where you live LeftishBrit Jun 2015 #408

It is offensive whathehell Jun 2015 #480

Once again, thank you Boston Bean! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #5

. boston bean Jun 2015 #100

BB MoonRiver Jun 2015 #114

Sorry, but Glitterati Jun 2015 #8

And you do not speak for ME, a feminist woman. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #10

Boston Bean speaks for me.. Little Star Jun 2015 #11

And yet the OP does not imply she speaks for 'all women' she is speaking her own mind and that Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #12

OMG ann--- Jun 2015 #14

+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #52

Please tell me, exactly how do you view that word, the "C" word? notadmblnd Jun 2015 #116

Is it not kind of obvious? treestar Jun 2015 #132

No, I don't think it is obvious. At lease to me it isn't notadmblnd Jun 2015 #186

It's obvious to any woman who has feared being sexually assaulted, MoonRiver Jun 2015 #229

Yep. The anger when it's said.. boston bean Jun 2015 #246

Yes, at that point it's fight or flee. We can't fight someone who is twice our size. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #262

So you think phil89 Jun 2015 #361

Of course. And every woman here knows that. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #362

A guy who uses that word has contempt for women treestar Jun 2015 #374

That's not true at all Zamen Jun 2015 #378

Because women know when they are being mistreated, insulted, demeaned, believe it or not... boston bean Jun 2015 #436

fwiw, they are flagged for review uppityperson Jun 2015 #438

oh good. thanks for letting me know. nt boston bean Jun 2015 #441

However, they'll be back, I am sure uppityperson Jun 2015 #442

tedious is a word that comes to mind.. boston bean Jun 2015 #455

What a complete mischaracterization of the OP. Whether an intentional mischaracterization, or not, prayin4rain Jun 2015 #20

Exactly, prayin4rain.. what's the motivation behind going ballistic on the OP for nothing? Cha Jun 2015 #49

I guess seeing a woman stand up against the establishment causes anxiety prayin4rain Jun 2015 #294

I lost any respect I ever had for people who chose to feign ignorance and mischacterize Cha Jun 2015 #471

I was a little put off by your post. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #21

So, fill us in. What's she saying? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #23

I'll try. I believe she's saying: Look, I'm an individual..I'm a woman who defines my own life. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #31

That's a lot of reading between the lines, but even if you're correct MoonRiver Jun 2015 #35

Also, I was speaking of people who do speak out about misogynistic language.. boston bean Jun 2015 #39

To me, it's a tough subject. Depending on a individual's personal thoughts, it's rather akin to... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #57

I'm not following at all.. sorry. boston bean Jun 2015 #60

See, I told you it was a difficult subject for me. Maybe I'm not following the obvious.... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #65

You got it, BlueJazz Glitterati Jun 2015 #77

Where does the post say you had to? treestar Jun 2015 #101

so the c word is off limits but questionseverything Jun 2015 #352

Thank you. I can say: I got something right out of this subject. I liked what you wrote. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #106

A woman can still be a ann--- Jun 2015 #93

Yeah that's a little strange treestar Jun 2015 #104

Nice creative speculation. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #125

Don't make such a big deal of it treestar Jun 2015 #98

Yeah, BB is not speaking for all women, it's very clear that we are not all alike. She even made seaglass Jun 2015 #27

She speaks for me. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #45

What are you getting all bent out of shape for? boston bean is not even saying she speaks for "all Cha Jun 2015 #47

/facepalm n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #66

+1000 marym625 Jun 2015 #78

So would you say that about the N word? treestar Jun 2015 #109

No, I wouldn't marym625 Jun 2015 #124

Are you actually advising African Americans treestar Jun 2015 #131

Again, no I wouldn't marym625 Jun 2015 #153

No one is speaking for you treestar Jun 2015 #192

The OP makes declarations marym625 Jun 2015 #200

It is called "in group" usage to take back the word. boston bean Jun 2015 #134

True. And no way would a poster not be banned treestar Jun 2015 #140

Any word meant to demean anyone marym625 Jun 2015 #162

Again, it is not the WORD as it stands alone as 4 letters. boston bean Jun 2015 #167

and the power of the word us given by the reaction to it. marym625 Jun 2015 #170

No it is not. boston bean Jun 2015 #172

If that were true marym625 Jun 2015 #178

What?? boston bean Jun 2015 #182

No I am not straight marym625 Jun 2015 #188

ok, so what if a straight person said them to you in an insulting derogatory demeaning fashion. boston bean Jun 2015 #191

It was homophobic straight people that said it to me marym625 Jun 2015 #196

So you would actually use those words on DU? treestar Jun 2015 #199

You mean like when we ride our Harleys in the Pride Parade marym625 Jun 2015 #215

The Dykes on bikes decided to call themselves that treestar Jun 2015 #221

I'm not going to get into what he meant or didn't mean. marym625 Jun 2015 #230

He got banned for it treestar Jun 2015 #238

I don't believe he was doing anything but mocking the troll. marym625 Jun 2015 #256

Ok, another question, cause I'm curious as to what you are meaning. boston bean Jun 2015 #227

I'm sorry. I don't understand your question marym625 Jun 2015 #231

Sorry.... Not sure how to put it... LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #236

Some guy in California marym625 Jun 2015 #248

If it is in group usage, I agree, that guy was an asshole. boston bean Jun 2015 #286

The kkk doesn't do anything but try to insult marym625 Jun 2015 #295

thank you Mary. nice to have a good conversation. much appreciated. boston bean Jun 2015 #297

see what we can accomplish? :) eom marym625 Jun 2015 #300

a Bernie and a Hillary supporter... whoda thunk it!? LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #303

Now, let's do the same on the issues marym625 Jun 2015 #305

Well, Mary... boston bean Jun 2015 #204

Exactly and that's why we protest using them treestar Jun 2015 #205

That's your right to feel that way marym625 Jun 2015 #218

Me too. cwydro Jun 2015 #437

exactly marym625 Jun 2015 #472

I'll pm you. cwydro Jun 2015 #473

Can't wait marym625 Jun 2015 #474

"It is a reality for women to be thought of as nothing but genitalia." Zamen Jun 2015 #345

enough of for it to be an issue. any other questions? boston bean Jun 2015 #347

I don't agree that the issue is as big as you're claiming Zamen Jun 2015 #349

Of course you don't. I never would have thought you would. nt boston bean Jun 2015 #350

I look forward to speaking with you much more in the future Zamen Jun 2015 #354

Maybe in your next reincarnation. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #517

You are exactly correct Glitterati Jun 2015 #193

yep. marym625 Jun 2015 #206

Waste of time Glitterati Jun 2015 #216

I honestly think that Boston bean and treestar marym625 Jun 2015 #226

Stop talking about other posters and treestar Jun 2015 #244

seriously? marym625 Jun 2015 #259

You were talking ABOUT me treestar Jun 2015 #375

Their implied professions of being able to read minds hifiguy Jun 2015 #253

Armchair psychology Glitterati Jun 2015 #288

So true. And there are never any consequences for that behavior. hifiguy Jun 2015 #292

I was at least half wrong there marym625 Jun 2015 #271

So you would seriously say that to black people? treestar Jun 2015 #217

In case you hadn't noticed, treestar Glitterati Jun 2015 #224

It's a valid comparison treestar Jun 2015 #247

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha Glitterati Jun 2015 #252

But you still haven't answered about the N word treestar Jun 2015 #267

Nothing you say is valid Glitterati Jun 2015 #270

You are speaking with someone Puglover Jun 2015 #310

Not surprised Glitterati Jun 2015 #313

That and marinating in the Puglover Jun 2015 #320

Outrage Glitterati Jun 2015 #322

Except when someone says something you find to be bigoted, right? boston bean Jun 2015 #323

Telling a group of people that they don't need equal rights is Puglover Jun 2015 #327

Well, may I attempt to tell you how all the defenses of this boston bean Jun 2015 #333

You see I believe that bigotry resides in all of our hearts. Puglover Jun 2015 #337

So, are you saying speaking out about it is harming the cause? boston bean Jun 2015 #339

I think maybe one of the differences between you and Puglover Jun 2015 #343

Nor do I think DU is my real life. boston bean Jun 2015 #346

Thanks nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #439

Exactly. And I did not say what they said treestar Jun 2015 #383

Please show me a post where I said what NYCSkp said Puglover Jun 2015 #445

OK so you think it's not OK to say that. treestar Jun 2015 #449

"Rabid hatred." Puglover Jun 2015 #450

Whose dirty work? treestar Jun 2015 #381

Of course you take that out of context treestar Jun 2015 #380

Of course that is what you always say. Puglover Jun 2015 #420

PL pecwae Jun 2015 #512

Well that's pointless treestar Jun 2015 #377

I can imagine this. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #312

The average black person is about as powerful as the average white person Zamen Jun 2015 #329

But I'm not talking about average people. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #336

We have to talk about average people if we're going to make any point Zamen Jun 2015 #338

So they should think nothing of being called the N word treestar Jun 2015 #384

Yes, I've heard black people say that very thing. cheapdate Jun 2015 #341

Lenny Bruce was making that very argument hifiguy Jun 2015 #249

+1 nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #156

OK so a Hillary supporter treestar Jun 2015 #203

Yep, they took the "magic" out of those words. Can be done with any valerief Jun 2015 #160

exactly! marym625 Jun 2015 #163

This straight supporter of LGBYQ was going to name call you Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #214

LMAO! marym625 Jun 2015 #220

Oh baloney, the use of the word is what keeps the hate alive treestar Jun 2015 #202

The words today are powerfully disrespectful - pretending that bigots are improving society by bettyellen Jun 2015 #223

good description of it treestar Jun 2015 #255

And you don't mercuryblues Jun 2015 #79

Good post Mercury! boston bean Jun 2015 #145

Sounding almost like a right winger today treestar Jun 2015 #95

Relax! Texasgal Jun 2015 #108

She's not speaking for all women. She is speaking from a broader context of language and culture. Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #151

You are free to submit yourself to degradation BainsBane Jun 2015 #483

ROFL Glitterati Jun 2015 #531

And you don't get to say that it's OK for people to call other women kiva Jun 2015 #501

Really? Glitterati Jun 2015 #532

This is sort of like talking to a child. kiva Jun 2015 #535

You're correct Glitterati Jun 2015 #536

A lot of men do not like to be called a D*ck, or D%ckhead or As^hole or any of the many accepted LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #24

Not all insults are created equal. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

Yes we know Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #36

Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #96

Agreed. Nt Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #107

You don't get to have it both ways. Either all pejoratives are equally Exilednight Jun 2015 #62

Quit using irrefutable logic. hifiguy Jun 2015 #265

Please don't address this here. boston bean Jun 2015 #67

Maybe that is the point. n/t MoonRiver Jun 2015 #76

Sorry but you do not get to tell us Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #83

Did I tell you what to do? boston bean Jun 2015 #85

"Misandry"???? MicaelS Jun 2015 #88

Oh, the poor things treestar Jun 2015 #115

So are you saying none of those things happen? 7962 Jun 2015 #208

It doesn't affect Chris Christie treestar Jun 2015 #213

How do you know it doesnt affect him? He may be hurt a great deal by it. 7962 Jun 2015 #222

We're talking about societal effects treestar Jun 2015 #233

"An obese female would never be governor despite her abilities." Zamen Jun 2015 #225

Name a female politician treestar Jun 2015 #240

It might just be that obese women are less interested in going in to politics Zamen Jun 2015 #243

Oh so it's the old choice thing treestar Jun 2015 #276

It's more plausible Zamen Jun 2015 #289

There's some reason to consider it less likely to happen though treestar Jun 2015 #298

Less likely, maybe, but that could be for any number of different reasons Zamen Jun 2015 #304

Not sure why you say that. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #328

Maggie De Block, Belgium's most popular politician. Has to be 300lbs 7962 Jun 2015 #293

Very interesting treestar Jun 2015 #302

You're right Zamen Jun 2015 #342

Because anything other than a monologue is misogyny. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #105

No, but to be respectful to what the discussion is about and other persons space. boston bean Jun 2015 #113

Sorry, no. The internet is not "your space". lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #119

Did I say it was my space? boston bean Jun 2015 #129

It's not rude to put things into context Zamen Jun 2015 #148

What context is that? boston bean Jun 2015 #155

Aren't there special groups for threads where you don't want people barging in? Zamen Jun 2015 #161

I wouldn't know.. what do you know about it? nt boston bean Jun 2015 #174

I was under the impression that there were certain protected groups Zamen Jun 2015 #177

good impression. glad your finding your way around.. took me a lot longer than 53 posts. boston bean Jun 2015 #179

You're correct. Will not address the derailers. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #307

They have refused to start their own thread... maybe you could start one for them.. LOL boston bean Jun 2015 #309

Like that time Jon Stewart was misandrist geek tragedy Jun 2015 #314

They could use GD/DU discuss their issues boston bean Jun 2015 #315

What about the menz? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #316

I don't mind having the discussion, it's just that they demand boston bean Jun 2015 #319

That's probably because it's not the slur itself which is the issue Zamen Jun 2015 #317

very true Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #330

We know there is a double standard. MicaelS Jun 2015 #92

Yes there is Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #141

Because they are not as grave an insult. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #306

How is it not as grave? Zamen Jun 2015 #321

Here's the test. pintobean Jun 2015 #331

As Buzz would say... Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #68

Asshole is nongender specific treestar Jun 2015 #111

wll then alert on it mercuryblues Jun 2015 #183

If you find those words demeaning, you should call them out where you see them, just as Boston Bean Squinch Jun 2015 #190

I know someone named Richard who refused to be called Dick progressoid Jun 2015 #502

K&R (nt) LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #26

It's magic word time! valerief Jun 2015 #28

What's magic about it? pintobean Jun 2015 #75

Good find Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #147

It wasn't a find pintobean Jun 2015 #189

That some are allowed to remain after useing that word and others are not Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #198

So he should have been banned? pintobean Jun 2015 #207

I think both should have been hidden Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #209

The results are in! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #91

Ha! Thanks. valerief Jun 2015 #118

Come on - want a lot of replies use the "C" word packman Jun 2015 #32

Those who don't think the c-word is misogynistic don't think the n-word is racist. nt. LexVegas Jun 2015 #38

^^^This^^^n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #58

words matter peasant one Jun 2015 #44

Very true. Thank you for your thoughts. boston bean Jun 2015 #51

What's with the asterisk? diamondhead Jun 2015 #48

I agree, it is ridiculous.. but I have had posts hidden when deriding the derogatory usage boston bean Jun 2015 #53

Can we call a guy a cwydro Jun 2015 #54

Would it be possible for you to start your own thread. boston bean Jun 2015 #55

He brings up a fair point and dovetails nicely into your OP. Exilednight Jun 2015 #69

This thread is about misogynistic language. boston bean Jun 2015 #70

Your silence speaks volumes when someone else brings a valid point and then Exilednight Jun 2015 #80

That kind of hypocrisy from some here hifiguy Jun 2015 #123

I'm actually a she. cwydro Jun 2015 #81

I sincerely apologize. Exilednight Jun 2015 #135

Lol...guess what? cwydro Jun 2015 #146

Yes she does Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #86

Nope. cwydro Jun 2015 #82

Go ahead. Make my day. Call me a duck. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #56

Why a duck? Why a no chicken? RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #74

Ats-a no good. hifiguy Jun 2015 #127

Lol! cwydro Jun 2015 #136

I think we should not treestar Jun 2015 #121

No. That would make you a *****. nt valerief Jun 2015 #122

Misogynistic speech is hate speech. It is that simple. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #61

Google is your friend RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #72

Funny the lack of outrage Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #90

If I as a male sufferered from repression and worse historically in the face of a superior.... marble falls Jun 2015 #169

What has anyone suffered historically? Zamen Jun 2015 #272

Tell that Trevon Martin or Malala Yousafzai. "It had nothing to with being black or a woman." marble falls Jun 2015 #348

Why would I tell them that? Zamen Jun 2015 #351

You probably don't want to search on DU and "asshole" nichomachus Jun 2015 #97

Well, at least that's an equal opportunity epithet n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #99

True, we all have them Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #112

Interestingly enough, the French word "con" is generally used to mean one.... RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #117

Or "putz." nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #133

Yes! Yiddish is a veritable treasure trove of such words. n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #139

I am not Jewish but I love Yiddish hifiguy Jun 2015 #149

Me neither. And I agree. RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #157

Oy, I know. It's enough to make you meshuggah. hifiguy Jun 2015 #282

Ah, I forgot that wonderful farce (Dîner de Cons) erronis Jun 2015 #152

Such a good point treestar Jun 2015 #89

counter bad ideas and bad words with better ideas and better words bluestateguy Jun 2015 #110

So you think repulsive, insulting and even sexually aggressive words MoonRiver Jun 2015 #120

Yes. TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #142

There will be crickets or cries of deflection. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #173

Ahhhhh.. the Word Police on DU are here... please post all the words we are not allowed to use. TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #137

There is really only one word we need to focus on: RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #150

"Make no mistake you are judged by your words..." Rex Jun 2015 #143

So start with a very good line you wrote... Township75 Jun 2015 #159

What about tw*t"? cwydro Jun 2015 #164

Thought for today: marble falls Jun 2015 #175

Lol! cwydro Jun 2015 #185

why was one allowed to stay? Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #165

You will have to direct your question to admin on that. boston bean Jun 2015 #171

If the OP is reffering to NYC_SKP's recent ban... mylye2222 Jun 2015 #166

And he didn't even use the actual word. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #176

and another active DU member Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #180

And so it goes. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #187

jury results H2O Man Jun 2015 #283

Thank you. And, as a friend always says, end scene. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #334

The term is meant to insult BainsBane Jun 2015 #379

Insulting and offending people is not the same as bigotry Zamen Jun 2015 #382

Sometimes insults are bigoted though. People use bigotry to insult but not all insults are bigotry uppityperson Jun 2015 #385

Sometimes, but not in this case Zamen Jun 2015 #386

Yes, it was misogyny, a form of prejudice and the action of writing it made it into bigotry uppityperson Jun 2015 #389

There's no evidence of any dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice Zamen Jun 2015 #392

Insulting someone with a prejudicial, misogynistic term = bigotry. uppityperson Jun 2015 #394

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #395

Using a perjorative slur, female based, is showing contempt specifically against women uppityperson Jun 2015 #400

It's showing contempt against the specific woman it was directed at Zamen Jun 2015 #401

by using a female based pejorative slur. uppityperson Jun 2015 #403

Well bless your heart. TL/DR GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #492

It's about context... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #258

Oh come on! Don't spoil things. We're on a roll here! n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #184

Maybe we need to reconsider putting a woman in the White House nichomachus Jun 2015 #181

I tend to agree Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #194

Excellent point hifiguy Jun 2015 #301

FFS so ignore all of history treestar Jun 2015 #210

Why does history matter? davidn3600 Jun 2015 #290

Inane false equivalecy. Just look how women are viewed historically up to today still_one Jun 2015 #212

Are you serious?... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #219

Women are an OPPRESSED class gollygee Jun 2015 #237

How so? Zamen Jun 2015 #359

By now it should be clear nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #234

It should be pretty clear by now that actually a lot of people agree with me. boston bean Jun 2015 #239

I did not call you a thing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #242

uh huh.. it's there for all to read... boston bean Jun 2015 #251

My apologies you took your advocacy as an attack nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #260

Please do me a favor and never post to me again as you say, after what you called me in your boston bean Jun 2015 #277

Unbelievable that a poster would think calling another poster zappaman Jun 2015 #250

I am sorry that you missed why it came up to my mind nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #257

Oh, I got what you were saying and so did the jury. zappaman Jun 2015 #266

Whatever dude nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #299

You just posted a few days ago that you IP ban people from your blog. R B Garr Jun 2015 #390

I am sorry, once again nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #397

That is utter baloney. boston bean Jun 2015 #407

My apologies that I was not clear in stating that you were rather muscular nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #409

Except that wasn't what was being conveyed I presume. boston bean Jun 2015 #410

It was, I am sorry for lack of clarity nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #411

I'll consider the apology, as I don't buy the excuse/explanation boston bean Jun 2015 #413

I am going to avoid walking on egg shells with you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #415

Yes, nadin, you are the victim here..... boston bean Jun 2015 #417

If that is YOUR INTERPRETATION that is fine nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #418

You sure are good at trying to make someone else be at fault. boston bean Jun 2015 #419

Nope, just pointed out a reality nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #421

cute and clever.. again.. boston bean Jun 2015 #422

Not cute, nor clever, the way I feel nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #424

blaming me again for something you did... nice. boston bean Jun 2015 #426

I am not blaming you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #429

right the case for the reason I came to mind the moment boston bean Jun 2015 #431

I already clarified the point nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #432

You're a published author and "Reporter, editor, and wonk." pintobean Jun 2015 #414

Except aparently me nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #416

You're a newspaper reporter and you post here under your own name? gollygee Jun 2015 #423

Yeah a lot has chanced since you did that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #427

I didn't do police beat for very long gollygee Jun 2015 #430

We do quite a bit of that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #448

ah another post telling us stupid, ungrateful peons what you won't post about Kali Jun 2015 #456

Nope nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #460

Yes. zappaman Jun 2015 #461

"So those posts will not get though." sic. Wow, that sounds worse than here if it's R B Garr Jun 2015 #433

Only if you intend to tell me nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #435

Eggshells are crunchy. pintobean Jun 2015 #443

Of course they are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #447

See, I hate to tell you this, but you've just destroyed any real objections R B Garr Jun 2015 #444

Well, you are free to your opinion nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #446

That's quite an unfair characterization of what really happened, which is R B Garr Jun 2015 #453

cognitive dissonance, it's an amazing thing.... boston bean Jun 2015 #458

Yes, it looks that way. R B Garr Jun 2015 #516

I got no idea how long you have been here nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #459

Wow, that's a boatload of stuff. I don't want to get into a rock-paper-scissors R B Garr Jun 2015 #515

It is partly about it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #521

I don't think the Democrats who are running are clowns. zappaman Jun 2015 #522

Correct. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #523

Thought she was being clever about it. pintobean Jun 2015 #261

Yeah, the OP deleted what she was referring to, but we all know boston bean Jun 2015 #263

It was a poor attempt at being insulting and nasty. zappaman Jun 2015 #273

Not that this simple fact ever stopped them Glitterati Jun 2015 #245

It's like arguing with the fundies about the age of the earth. hifiguy Jun 2015 #308

LOL, yeah Glitterati Jun 2015 #311

just another word for the taboo list DustyJoe Jun 2015 #278

Opinion vs Fact: My opinion is that you are attempting to make a larger point IdaBriggs Jun 2015 #287

That, Ida, is one freaking brilliant post. hifiguy Jun 2015 #324

Thank you Ida. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #340

Summed it up perfectly Zamen Jun 2015 #344

I believe the 8th Amendment prohibits this post Prism Jun 2015 #373

+X100 840high Jun 2015 #493

Brava! marym625 Jun 2015 #525

I remember in qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #291

Excellent post. boston bean Jun 2015 #296

misogynistic language has no place here - use of that word deserves significant consequences DrDan Jun 2015 #353

How is it misogynistic language? Zamen Jun 2015 #355

cute DrDan Jun 2015 #356

It's a simple enough question Zamen Jun 2015 #357

Its perfectly ok to call someone a "douchebag", however. undeterred Jun 2015 #358

I don't particularly like douchebag either... boston bean Jun 2015 #363

Agreed. undeterred Jun 2015 #405

Hold on, wait. You need to start at the beginning: Zenlitened Jun 2015 #412

That made me giggle... boston bean Jun 2015 #454

Happy to lend a giggle. :) Zenlitened Jun 2015 #477

The Feminazis daredtowork Jun 2015 #425

I feel bad for people who fall for right wing tropes. boston bean Jun 2015 #428

Rightwing tropes created the Tea Party daredtowork Jun 2015 #434

What is working for the tea party? Bigotry?? boston bean Jun 2015 #462

hmm, I don't think you realize how you sound daredtowork Jun 2015 #463

I think the last word coming from someone who says they understand boston bean Jun 2015 #464

I agree with you - how does that insult you personally? daredtowork Jun 2015 #465

I am responding to denials, excuses, and derailments. boston bean Jun 2015 #466

Very Well Then: Your Services Are Needed in This Thread daredtowork Jun 2015 #467

You now want me to go back to a thread in 2013... boston bean Jun 2015 #468

The wrongness of misogyny has changed since 2013? LOL. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #469

No it hasn't and since you joined in 2014, you really wouldn't know boston bean Jun 2015 #470

It's not a question of enforcement back in 2013 daredtowork Jun 2015 #475

That you think my motivation is due to hillary versus Bernie is just flat out false. boston bean Jun 2015 #478

I don't want you to go back in time: Nye Bevan posted a current thread daredtowork Jun 2015 #479

Yes you do. You have my blessing. Please help. boston bean Jun 2015 #485

Lecturing on indirect allusions to the C word is your mission, not mine. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #487

Oh so you don't really care. Why the demands then. boston bean Jun 2015 #489

It's up to you daredtowork Jun 2015 #504

I will thanks for allowing me that. Nt boston bean Jun 2015 #505

What I'm seeing is a lot of whining about not being able to use slurs with impunity. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #451

+1 n/t tammywammy Jun 2015 #452

The C-word ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #481

Did you read the op? boston bean Jun 2015 #482

Uh, yeah ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #486

Of course not because your summarization of the meaning of it boston bean Jun 2015 #488

But that's the point. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #494

I don't think I told anyone in this thread what words to use. boston bean Jun 2015 #495

And I know of no man ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #499

Nance you know something you are so off base about me boston bean Jun 2015 #500

I understand where you're coming from. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #506

I'l revert back to words are what we use to identify someone who boston bean Jun 2015 #513

Oh, I get it now. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #530

Yes it doesn't take a rocket scientist. boston bean Jun 2015 #533

I have quoted your OP ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #534

Nance, you're trying to use facts and logic. You're not in touch with the feelings. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #496

The C word here is CONTEXT diamondhead Jun 2015 #497

Well said, Nance marym625 Jun 2015 #514

Beautifully said. Puglover Jun 2015 #524

Be Impeccable with your Word, chervilant Jun 2015 #484

"…in a derogatory manner…"? tularetom Jun 2015 #490

When discussing the word itself and why it is misogynist. boston bean Jun 2015 #491

When you use the "*", leave out the "u". Don't write the word. morningfog Jun 2015 #498

I'll accept a woman being called the "C" word on this board the day that it's acceptable Beacool Jun 2015 #508

Because even though they tell us we already have equal rights, Jamastiene Jun 2015 #519

Notice that most of the insults against men are really against women. Beacool Jun 2015 #529

Exactly. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #538

yes and... tanbrown Jun 2015 #539

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #520

'In the Guild,' said the Fool, 'we learned that words can be more powerful even than magic.' Hekate Jun 2015 #509

Thanks tanbrown Jun 2015 #537

Excellent post! Thank you so much for sharing! boston bean Jun 2015 #540