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joshcryer

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4. I disagree in principle.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:08 AM
Jun 2015

For an example, from an economic perspective, childcare has zero cost, because there is an opportunity cost for not having child care. If a child is not cared for it loses opportunities in youth development, and this affects minority communities the most. A middle class white suburban mother with a working husband (and she has a job too) isn't going to be effected as much as a black poverty class woman whose father is absent. That's just objectively factual. Anyone can agree with that. And therefore that "fix" would target those minority black women far more than it would that middle class white suburban mother. Yes, some poor working mothers would benefit, and that's great, but no where near as much as black working mothers.

To me economic issues are targeted at everyone equally. Which is why high education is definitely iffy for me, but I think it will impact and improve the lives of the impoverished more so than those in better living conditions. The student loan bubble is looming, however, so in the short term it's a major issue for everyone and would fall under economics.

SS cap doesn't fall in the social category for me because it needs to be made solvent, and it only affects the top 5%, so it's a no brainer (and Obama supports it; Clinton epically fucked up by saying the cap raise would hurt the "middle class" but she can flip flop on that and I'm OK with it, as it was never true to begin with and was a losing issue back in 2008).

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Economic Justice [View all] cali Jun 2015 OP
Sounds good to me Sherman A1 Jun 2015 #1
childcare, communities and schools, high education, at risk youth joshcryer Jun 2015 #2
they're both, but they cost money, ergo they are clearly cali Jun 2015 #3
I disagree in principle. joshcryer Jun 2015 #4
in the real world, child care costs a fuck of a lot. cali Jun 2015 #5
Bye. joshcryer Jun 2015 #11
I agree with you more than Josh here but why the the personal stuff? pampango Jun 2015 #14
"extending freedoms" quaker bill Jun 2015 #15
Then maybe people simply don't agree on terms, and have simply been talking past each other. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #16
People are definitely talking past each other to at least some extent gollygee Jun 2015 #17
If that's the case, and no one wants to 'separate out' whatever Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #18
I don't think there are any trolls gollygee Jun 2015 #20
Hence the term: "Socio-Economic" (Issues). n/t 2banon Jun 2015 #30
Section 8 has to start going to the people daredtowork Jun 2015 #6
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! We need it—economic justice! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #7
OK qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #8
hardly just my view cali Jun 2015 #9
Yes yes yes! romanic Jun 2015 #10
Sounds good to me. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #12
On the mark. Thanks cali!! Scuba Jun 2015 #13
I would clarify the definition of "income" to include EVERYTHING in the inbox. annabanana Jun 2015 #19
Let's think about it.... Sancho Jun 2015 #21
what a remarkable pile of bull. cali Jun 2015 #22
Are you trying to be insulting? Sancho Jun 2015 #23
Yes, they are. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #26
Equal access to health care regardless of ability to pay Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #24
"Economic justice" means that rich women *also* get a chance to lord over us as our superiors. Romulox Jun 2015 #25
All great goals. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #27
making a society more just is a big piece of social justice cali Jun 2015 #28
Agree. It is a big piece. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #29
Translation: I want a lot of shit but don't want to pay for it taught_me_patience Jun 2015 #31
how much do you think taxes should be raised? hill2016 Jun 2015 #32
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