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PufPuf23

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92. I will admit to being Juror #1 and also

Sat May 12, 2012, 05:06 PM

May 2012

that I agree with the poster's opinion but thought the anger rude and distracting and unnecessary.

"Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: wish the poster hadn't typed "FUCK ALL OF YOU!" (twice).

and "This will probably be my final post. Like I give a shit."

as content was OK."

Generally, anger and mocking posts don't help the DU community IMHO and I basically jurored on the anger vs content ratio in context of the general tone of the thread.When I am on a jury, I always read the etire thread for context.

"For the record, it took a long time before this jury verdict came back. This was actually one of the most layered, sophisticated and interesting jury decisions I've ever come across."

Agree, I imagined if every post in the thread had the same fuck yous as punctuation and made my decision.

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My post on a Yahoo! news story "Many blacks shrug off Obama's new view on gays" [View all] johnlucas May 2012 OP

"Obama is human, I don't have him on a pedestal." Zalatix May 2012 #1

If I had the power to influence a larger circle I would give that speech. johnlucas May 2012 #8

Well said, sir. hifiguy May 2012 #2

You gotta make it hit home, man johnlucas May 2012 #4

I have no doubt that were MLK still with us, hifiguy May 2012 #5

As a matter of fact, he was addressing economic inequality before he was murdered johnlucas May 2012 #38

Everyone not part of the 1% needs to maintain solidarity hifiguy May 2012 #77

what percentage of the black vote did Kendrick Meek get ? how about Andrew Cuomo ? JI7 May 2012 #3

Why do such a high percentage of black voters oppose same sex marriage? SunSeeker May 2012 #6

because many of them are religious and go to church regularly JI7 May 2012 #9

but why are more blacks "religious?" nt StarryNight May 2012 #108

not sure but probably has to do with slavery and other history of blacks in the US JI7 May 2012 #109

Bible Belt nonsense & just your everyday garden-variety fear & paranoia johnlucas May 2012 #12

So it's basically a matter of lack of education? SunSeeker May 2012 #14

Unfortunately it's not so much a lack of education, vaberella May 2012 #20

it's the same as white people who oppose gay marriage, what's so hard to understand? HiPointDem May 2012 #30

I think the point is about percentages ruggerson May 2012 #62

Then why aren't the percentages the same? SunSeeker May 2012 #73

A "the fuck" men!!! I just said that. n/t vaberella May 2012 #19

Wish I could rec this post. Jazzgirl May 2012 #88

Most Blacks belong to evangelical churches (Baptist and Methodist, mainly). Odin2005 May 2012 #82

the usual Bible Bullshit Skittles May 2012 #99

thank you for this post. iemitsu May 2012 #7

exactly and very well said moreover azurnoir May 2012 #10

Many black precincts voted 2-1 for the ballot measure AlbertCat May 2012 #11

"These people have been made fools by religion." Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #13

displaying your own intolerance for religious people? AlbertCat May 2012 #102

Good to know that some forms intolerance are superior to others. "A rose by any other name" Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #103

Good to know that some forms intolerance are superior to others. AlbertCat May 2012 #105

I certainly hope this isn't your face to face approach to people. If so, that could explain a lot. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #106

Excellent response, John. nt AverageJoe90 May 2012 #15

i think your response is great. barbtries May 2012 #16

+1000 ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #17

Religion is a curse put upon Black Americans...for real. vaberella May 2012 #18

I saw Julian Bond the other night on CNN. He was amazing cali May 2012 #21

Many black leaders in North Carolina came out strongly against the amendment. yardwork May 2012 #41

Excuse Me. SpencerShay May 2012 #22

ah, thank goodness for small blessings. cali May 2012 #23

I wouldn't TOS you over this. You do have a point, even if it is expressed with rage. Zalatix May 2012 #24

Then why all the concentration even in the MSM? TIA uponit7771 May 2012 #50

Results: Number23 May 2012 #26

I'm glad I don't do juries, but I think I would've voted just as you did. It's the "F ALL OF YOU".. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #28

I would have voted to leave alone despite the anger and the one incorrect statement, which has been yardwork May 2012 #34

To be perfectly honest with you Number23 May 2012 #93

A lot of us were saying this after Prop 8 too. yardwork May 2012 #95

You say: 'I have no doubt that there were some gays that played a role in the civil rights movement" Bluenorthwest May 2012 #54

I will admit to being Juror #1 and also PufPuf23 May 2012 #92

I point out Blacks because we should know better johnlucas May 2012 #27

John Lucas, have you read The Pedagogy of the Oppressed? EFerrari May 2012 #79

"I don't recall gays coming to the aid of blacks during the 1960's civil rights movement, at all!" Hissyspit May 2012 #29

it's not ignorant at all. bayard rustin certainly wasn't out to the world, because those things HiPointDem May 2012 #32

Um, that's part of the ignorance. Hissyspit May 2012 #35

Then it would be better to point out that fact rather than point to Bayard Rustin & say he HiPointDem May 2012 #39

Excuse me, but you are becoming offensive. Bayard Rustin was openly gay. So were many other people. yardwork May 2012 #42

Were you alive then? I was. He was closeted until he got arrested for having sex in a car. HiPointDem May 2012 #43

I was alive then and knew gay people at the time, including black gay people. yardwork May 2012 #44

of course individuals may have known gay people. that doesn't mean they were "openly gay". HiPointDem May 2012 #45

Heard of James Baldwin? Bluenorthwest May 2012 #56

Golly, no, I never heard of those people, thanks for educating me -- not. HiPointDem May 2012 #89

The point is that many gay people did support the Civil Rights Movement. yardwork May 2012 #36

i'm sure they did. but not in some public identity of "homosexuals". HiPointDem May 2012 #40

That's largely because gay people weren't open about it because they didn't want to land in jail ruggerson May 2012 #61

yes, which is my point. yes. and yes, i believe so. HiPointDem May 2012 #83

Being Gay then was illegal obamanut2012 May 2012 #86

which is my *point*. today "openly gay" means you are out to the world. not just to your friends, HiPointDem May 2012 #90

how could gays join a movement when their existence was illegal? La Lioness Priyanka May 2012 #101

Where did i ask them to? OTOH, being gay was just as illegal in 1969 as in 1963, yet they made HiPointDem May 2012 #104

Bravo. And since we have evidence that the right wing is deliberately EFerrari May 2012 #65

Lots of Gay Americans were part of the Civil Rights Movement, including White ones obamanut2012 May 2012 #84

No, you're not excused... MellowDem May 2012 #97

"Every time something bad happens to gay people, everybody blames the blacks!" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #98

Spam deleted by OKNancy (MIR Team) geo26r May 2012 #25

In North Carolina, not all predominately black precincts voted for the amendment. yardwork May 2012 #31

I'm happy to hear this johnlucas May 2012 #33

It can't be overturned as unconstitutional. It is an amendment TO the state constitution. yardwork May 2012 #37

Can't the federal override this? johnlucas May 2012 #46

Of course the USSC should apply loving v Virginia. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #47

Proposition 8 is a completely different thing. NC just amended its constitution. yardwork May 2012 #48

California's Prop 8 was a constitutional amendment too johnlucas May 2012 #49

I hope you're right. Thank you for your OP. yardwork May 2012 #52

Post Prop 8 story that never got noticed much....fraud a real possiblitiy, Bluenorthwest May 2012 #57

Maybe so, but the vote in NC was real. 61% of North Carolinians added hate to the constitution. yardwork May 2012 #58

Prop H8 failed in Alameda County. EFerrari May 2012 #68

Please see my post in this thread, and elsewhere: yardwork May 2012 #72

Yes. I said at the time that Los Angeles Co. stank to heaven EFerrari May 2012 #66

Prop 8 was also a constitutional amendment ruggerson May 2012 #63

The prop 8 ruling was very narrow and only applied to California. former9thward May 2012 #81

The NC amendment can be attacked on various fronts ruggerson May 2012 #87

SCOTUS is the key I think, and for that we need to replace 2 conservative justices stevenleser May 2012 #51

That would be wonderful. SCOTUS is always one important reason to vote Democratic. yardwork May 2012 #53

+1 ruggerson May 2012 #64

Good catch, yardwork. EFerrari May 2012 #75

Well done sir. 99Forever May 2012 #55

I wish some of these 'black voters' could see past his skin color. Zax2me May 2012 #59

The suggestion ... Renaissance Man May 2012 #74

+1 nt ecstatic May 2012 #78

You're in good company - Julian Bond said many of the same things you're saying ruggerson May 2012 #60

The article's angle of approach leaves me a little uneasy Prism May 2012 #67

I agree with you. The premise of the article is the same old stereotype. yardwork May 2012 #76

Recent poll has AA support for gay marriage at 50% ecstatic May 2012 #69

Great post! Chorophyll May 2012 #70

Great post! Big K&R! riderinthestorm May 2012 #71

Black people are not a monolith. Jamastiene May 2012 #80

I honestly don't know what the fuck to say to this. Arkana May 2012 #85

The media ProSense May 2012 #91

Not shocking, hughee99 May 2012 #94

Your comments mean so very much to me. stillwaiting May 2012 #96

this whole gays vs blacks thing makes me uncomfortable, La Lioness Priyanka May 2012 #100

mighty big of 'em. nt StarryNight May 2012 #107

Perhaps a respectful answer, especially to minority criticism cr8tvlde May 2012 #110