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In reply to the discussion: I want to thank the defenders of misogyny [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)236. That is a blatantly deceitful mischaracterization of what I wrote
And it's not the first time you've been caught being deceitful on DU.
Here's the deal: When you stop lying about me, I'll stop telling the truth about you. When you lie about me, you're totally fucking with the wrong Democrat. Yes, bb, "itsadogslife", indeed.
To begin our sordid little adventure in Fact, Truth, and Lies at DU, here's the profile of one sock puppet you created:
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Member since: Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:46 AM
Number of posts: 19
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Your sock puppet gets tombstoned here:

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About adogslife
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Your sock puppet gets tombstoned here:

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Revoked on Reason Revoked by
Apr 4, 2013 Sockpuppet of BainsBane, which appears to have been created to get around limits on alerting imposed by the software.
For more information see Terms of Service
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And here you are, caught in another attempted deceit while trying to sock 'splain it all away the above:
Star Member BainsBane (31,763 posts)
11. Yeah, at 3 in the morning
I somehow thought, it's okay because Skinner said you could use multiple accounts. After I communicated with him, I thought, what the fuck was I thinking? He rightly pointed out the use was not in good faith. It was an incredibly stupid thing to do. It wasn't the first time I've done something majorly stupid and it won't be the last, but it is the last time I'll use a sock. That is guaranteed. The thing had 19 posts and was active for one night. They'll talk about it for years, no doubt. So all the posts about a dogs life are about me. Hence my new sig line, which I have taken to appropriate and thereby remake the insult.
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pintobean (14,471 posts)
17. It was active from March 11 to April 4
That's more than "one night".
The thing had 19 posts and was active for one night.
It looks like you accidentally posted from that account on March 22nd.
It looks like the rest are between April 2 and April 4.
About adogslife
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Favorite group: Gun Control Reform Activism, 1 posts in the last 90 days (5% of total posts)
Last post: Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:14 AM
Here's the link to that profile.
If you click the transparency tab, you can see Skinner's PPR reason:
Sockpuppet of BainsBane, which appears to have been created to get around limits on alerting imposed by the software.
Edit - fixed link
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/125519981#post17
11. Yeah, at 3 in the morning
I somehow thought, it's okay because Skinner said you could use multiple accounts. After I communicated with him, I thought, what the fuck was I thinking? He rightly pointed out the use was not in good faith. It was an incredibly stupid thing to do. It wasn't the first time I've done something majorly stupid and it won't be the last, but it is the last time I'll use a sock. That is guaranteed. The thing had 19 posts and was active for one night. They'll talk about it for years, no doubt. So all the posts about a dogs life are about me. Hence my new sig line, which I have taken to appropriate and thereby remake the insult.
Cannot reply in locked threads
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125519981#post11
pintobean (14,471 posts)
17. It was active from March 11 to April 4
That's more than "one night".
The thing had 19 posts and was active for one night.
It looks like you accidentally posted from that account on March 22nd.
It looks like the rest are between April 2 and April 4.
About adogslife
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Account status: Posting privileges revoked
Member since: Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:46 AM
Number of posts: 19
Number of posts, last 90 days: 19
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 14 posts in the last 90 days (74% of total posts)
Favorite group: Gun Control Reform Activism, 1 posts in the last 90 days (5% of total posts)
Last post: Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:14 AM
Here's the link to that profile.
If you click the transparency tab, you can see Skinner's PPR reason:
Sockpuppet of BainsBane, which appears to have been created to get around limits on alerting imposed by the software.
Edit - fixed link
Cannot reply
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125519981#post17
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Here is what you just wrote today:
"But then again, you are the person who called the International Socialist Review "Ayn Rand" revisionist history."
That's blatantly disingenuous, and you know it.
*If you recall (I'm quite sure you do) you acknowledged making a punctuation error that completely changed the meaning of something you wrote in an OP. After I challenged you about the meaning of what you wrote, you launched a long and disingenuous vicious personal attack at me, which you self-deleted as soon as another poster pointed out your error, and didn't even have the courtesy or grace to apologize.*
Here is the thread (for context) that contains the exchange that you are referring to:
What you wrote in your unedited OP:
In a neoliberal era in which personal choice and triumphs of individual character are heralded above social justice and understandings of structural oppression, I think it useful to examine the historical construction of Helen Keller's life story to remove her Marxist activism on disability and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles."
My responses, response #1:
"Why do you think it is useful to examine the historical construction of Helen Keller's life story
to remove her Marxist activism on disability, and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles?
On the surface, this appears like a neoliberal attempt to deliberately rewrite history according to Ayn Rand. But I am open to the possibility that their are more reality based motivations for you posting this OP.
"I think it useful to examine the historical construction of Helen Keller's life story to remove her Marxist activism on disability and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles."
Maybe I misunderstood your intent in writing this post.
Could you please explain, clearly and simply, why you feel so deeply compelled to create an OP that is designed to "remove her Marxist activism on disability, and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles?"
Thanks.
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My response #2:
"Your introductory paragraph makes it appear that you are misrepresenting the
content of the article.
In a neoliberal era in which personal choice and triumphs of individual character are heralded above social justice and understandings of structural oppression, I think it useful to examine the historical construction of Helen Keller's life story to remove her Marxist activism on disability and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles.
I read the entire article, looking for a correlation between you introductory paragraph and the meaning of the content of the article, and did not see one. From reading your posts over a period of several years, I never got any clue that you were in any way supportive of Socialism or Marxism. Somewhat the opposite, in fact.
Are you a socialist, or Marxist/socialist?
The article is excellent, and I never indicated in any way that it wasn't.
Thank you for clarifying that you recognize and respect Helen Keller's radical socialist activism.
By the way, I have a History Degree, with a minor in Psychology, from a highly esteemed private university on the East Coast, and several years of post graduate study as a migrant worker "road scholar", which was probably the most important part of my education, in the respect that it helped me gain a better understand of what I had been taught in school.
You should be aware that, in reality, you are not wiser, smarter, more literate, or superior to everyone else in the world simply because you (purportedly) have a reasonably decent education.
And by the way, you never gave any indication at all that you "thought the article was good".
Introductory paragraphs generally clearly state the main idea, the intent, of an essay, and do not leave a reader with conflicting interpretations of the message of the body. Even now, after reading all of this, I see little or no reason value in, or reason to, "examinine the historical construction of Helen Keller's life story to remove her Marxist activism on disability and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles".
Given that you have so condescendingly explained to me that the popular conception of Helen Keller in the hero role that Americans are generally famliar with, that of some type of benign, bucolic. struggling but noble hero figure, why did you write that you feel it was important to continue to foster this image, by removing her Marxist activism on disability, and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles?
Is it so we can better understand the neoliberal mind? I'm just not seeing any value in removing the actual facts of her Marxist activism from her history. It just seems so Orwellian. And the author of the article is definitely pushing the fact of her Marxist activism.
Neoliberals need to have the fact that this most excellent woman was a red pinko commie shoved up in their faces. The author of the article seems to believe so as well.
"In a neoliberal era in which personal choice and triumphs of individual character are heralded above social justice and understandings of structural oppression, I think it useful to examine the historical construction of Helen Keller's life story to remove her Marxist activism on disability and instead supplant it with moral tales of overcoming personal obstacles."
Honestly, ^^that^^ just sounds so like Ayn Rand newspeak circa 1984.
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Please don't bother self deleting anything else at this point, adding to the attempted deception will just make things worse:
Joe Shlabotnik (4,722 posts)
12. Wait, hold on...
A coma before the word 'to' would entirely change what you were trying to say. Otherwise its sounds as if you are advocating for removing her Marxist accomplishments.
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Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:34 PM
Star Member BainsBane (31,761 posts)
14. Gotcha
Now I have to delete my smackdown of the other poster, which I was quite pleased with. Oh well.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026452269#post14
12. Wait, hold on...
A coma before the word 'to' would entirely change what you were trying to say. Otherwise its sounds as if you are advocating for removing her Marxist accomplishments.
~ If we do not do the impossible, we shall be faced with the unthinkable. ~
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Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:34 PM
Star Member BainsBane (31,761 posts)
14. Gotcha
Now I have to delete my smackdown of the other poster, which I was quite pleased with. Oh well.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026452269#post14
Here is a link to the entire thread where the above exchange took place, for transparency and context.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026452269
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"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive" ~ Walter Scott
Now go on, launch another of those patented hallmark vicious personal attacks as a strawman attempt to 'splain all this away. If you can't baffle 'em with brilliance, bully 'em with bullshit.

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Hekate
Jun 2015
#53
And that has in fact been my own experiences with discussions of modern-day slavery
BainsBane
Jun 2015
#287
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#289
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#325
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#334
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Jun 2015
#138
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Jun 2015
#110
DU has many tools to avoid reading things that get you tired. Ignore, hide thread, block keywords
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Jun 2015
#114
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#117
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#348
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Jun 2015
#37
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jeff47
Jun 2015
#45
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Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#118
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LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#150
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Jun 2015
#152
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Jun 2015
#276
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Jun 2015
#145
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Jun 2015
#31
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Jun 2015
#25
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Jun 2015
#245
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Jun 2015
#38
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Jun 2015
#29
Repeating this opinion is disingenuous and keeps us from talking about real issues...
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Jun 2015
#36
Wow, so you don't consider the attack the Republican party has brought forth against women's rights
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Jun 2015
#225
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Jun 2015
#72
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Jun 2015
#83
It's misogynistic directed towards any woman. Just because that wasn't alerted on doesn't make
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Jun 2015
#89
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Jun 2015
#94
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#97
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#124
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Jun 2015
#121
So you are voting for Hillary just because she is a woman, but are fighting entitled privilege-
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#239
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#240
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#143
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#160
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#190
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#215
Yes, you are trying to shame people. Your OP is filled with accusations and zero evidence.
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#219
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#223
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#274
How many times have you made this declaration? 3rd...4th? Anymore, this comes to mind.
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#234
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#329
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Jun 2015
#305
Link it. Seriously. Plus please go back and provide evidence of the other statements up thread
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#309
Seriously? One person expresses general support for our justice system, IN GENERAL
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Jun 2015
#336
I have learned how to control my feelings when it comes to name calling.
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#323