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Hekate

(100,133 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:33 PM Jun 2015

Thinking about the Teenage Pool Party and the people defending the cops. I have a question for you [View all]

A couple of people here want it understood that cops are to be obeyed no matter what, any time any where, and that the 14 y.o. girl no doubt brought her throwdown on herself.

I've got to tell you up front I am really upset.

So here's my question: I wonder if it isn't time for "proper" police/civilian interactive behavior to be taught to all kids in high school.

Today I was driving home from the grocery store listening to this story on NPR, and wondering: Should all kids of all colors have a class in the high school gym on how to behave extremely subserviently to armed uniformed police officers?

We can't just get by on saying Yes sir and No sir any more, can we? Not when just giving cops a funny look much less seriously having a teenage attitude can mean a death sentence.

Kids have got to practice cringing at an early age, so they'll know the right way to do it, right down to laying face-down in the dirt before they're even told to.

I include white kids in this because I remember those protestors at UC Berkeley who were cuffed, kneeling, unresisting, and a cop walked along the line of them pepper spraying their eyes. Obviously they were doing it wrong. I mean the young people, not of course the police.

Help me out here. What. The. Hell.


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K&R TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #1
Interesting that you bring up roid rage. The only place I have heard that is here, but I think ... Hekate Jun 2015 #5
I think anytime a cop fires his weapon TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #9
Most cops are drug tested Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #54
Depends on the department and what they're testing for. jeff47 Jun 2015 #95
I would take that bet druidity33 Jun 2015 #97
It would be easy to test for the illegal use of steroids. bvar22 Jun 2015 #99
95% of the time you see cops doing this shit... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #98
I'll believe that not all cops are bad.... daleanime Jun 2015 #2
police sergeant prosecuted questionseverything Jun 2015 #22
Next...... daleanime Jun 2015 #23
well that is an example of a bad cop turned in questionseverything Jun 2015 #27
I don't know but I can't believe it when a cop hands me a ticket yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #3
Daryl Gates was right! Teach your kids how to properly get arrested! Iggo Jun 2015 #4
People defending the racist cops probably share that characteristic with the cops. bravenak Jun 2015 #6
That happens any time you try to defend a non-principle based policy Fumesucker Jun 2015 #8
On pretty much every issue. bravenak Jun 2015 #11
Assaulting our younglings... chervilant Jun 2015 #42
I agree with all of that. bravenak Jun 2015 #44
Yes. Happens all the time lovemydog Jun 2015 #74
occupy questionseverything Jun 2015 #18
Do you have a point? bravenak Jun 2015 #20
so you understand that the folks from occupy were trying to fix things for ALL OF US? questionseverything Jun 2015 #26
Exactly. Same enemy different reasons. bravenak Jun 2015 #31
so the system is not racist heaven05 Jun 2015 #45
i pointed out occupy because it is an example of police abuse against whites questionseverything Jun 2015 #50
+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #37
... bravenak Jun 2015 #46
I don't understand how people can defend them after watching these videos. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #38
I've been avoiding the threads too. bravenak Jun 2015 #43
I will probably watch the video but not look at the comments. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #47
The video will piss you off. bravenak Jun 2015 #48
Yeah, it upsets me too,. lovemydog Jun 2015 #56
i have "the New Jim Crow" book on my kindle but i haven't read it yet. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #59
Thanks very much m-lekktor. lovemydog Jun 2015 #63
I saw both the movies you mentioned Selma and Malcolm x. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #67
The Black Power Mixtape. lovemydog Jun 2015 #70
i edited my post. they deleted parts of it m-lekktor Jun 2015 #72
Oh yeah. Here it is on netflix. lovemydog Jun 2015 #78
I will watch my copy of this documentary this week. here are two other books m-lekktor Jun 2015 #81
Thank you very much. lovemydog Jun 2015 #82
I am anxious to watch that one. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #83
A PSA campaign about it would be good too... Fumesucker Jun 2015 #7
This can be the PSA Curmudgeoness Jun 2015 #36
Excellent! Of course, Rock would need to add shooting and tasing to the PSA. And NOT putting one's valerief Jun 2015 #102
Way to overstate it, Hekate. WillowTree Jun 2015 #10
Ha! bravenak Jun 2015 #12
Really? Did you see that video? Did you see that girl? There WAS NO "sorting out". Hekate Jun 2015 #15
Yeah, I knew I was going to get stoned for that. WillowTree Jun 2015 #30
So, if all the kids, Curmudgeoness Jun 2015 #41
I want to know why the white woman who physically avebury Jun 2015 #53
they look pretty subservient to me questionseverything Jun 2015 #19
Nonsense. /nt yardwork Jun 2015 #24
The cop was clearly out of line steve2470 Jun 2015 #25
way too many good people out of work to keep a guy like that questionseverything Jun 2015 #28
My first comment is... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #13
That's true but police have killed thousands of unarmed black people lovemydog Jun 2015 #34
The cop went full derp mode LittleBlue Jun 2015 #14
If I were a parent, I would tell my kids to obey the police no matter what aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #16
The young girl shouldn't have to thank her lucky stars that she is alive. kwassa Jun 2015 #17
Bingo! truebrit71 Jun 2015 #69
Damn right Hekate Jun 2015 #80
+1 stage left Jun 2015 #84
That doesnt work for black folk either, the guy who got shot getting his ID after being uponit7771 Jun 2015 #39
yo I just saw a thread that mansplained how activists are whiney elehhhhna Jun 2015 #21
You've got it right. herding cats Jun 2015 #29
They need some sort of twelve step program to free them from their dependence ... betsuni Jun 2015 #73
There has to be some way to help them out of their cycle of hate. herding cats Jun 2015 #79
Great post - check this out malaise Jun 2015 #32
My Fraternity, being populated by African-American males ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #33
WOW!! There are classes being taught with the police as the threat, which is true to life uponit7771 Jun 2015 #40
wow so sorry to read that! steve2470 Jun 2015 #87
You are most likely correct but isn't it horrible that we have to teach our children to submit to jwirr Jun 2015 #35
They're reacting to The Wizard Jun 2015 #49
Subserviently? No but it wouldnt hurt to make sure that all kids are taught cstanleytech Jun 2015 #51
That's what you got out of watching the video? bravenak Jun 2015 #52
The "donut roll" almost made this video comedic - if it wasn't so obscenely violent and enraging aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #61
I'm glad I'm not the only one who almost laughed. bravenak Jun 2015 #62
That looked like a video game glitch. Frank Cannon Jun 2015 #89
"The cop obviously was completely out of touch with reality." Well no shit. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #65
I was just answering the question that Hekate asked. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #64
How about teach cops that they cannot assault people just because they feel like it? bravenak Jun 2015 #66
Yes of course as a short term solution more training for the cops can help cstanleytech Jun 2015 #76
MUST. OBEY. AUTHORITY. jeff47 Jun 2015 #96
Perfectly stated, bravenak suffragette Jun 2015 #103
The cop was the only one in the video, cussing and screaming and acting badly.. stage left Jun 2015 #85
"The cop was the only one" Now to quote myself "Well no shit." cstanleytech Jun 2015 #86
Ok stage left Jun 2015 #91
I dont recall hearing them pulling a gun though so there is a whole world of difference cstanleytech Jun 2015 #92
According to the video stage left Jun 2015 #107
It can be difficult for tweens and teens... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #90
Yes I realize that, I was a teen a few decades ago as well after all. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #93
Indeed, the days of Officer Friendly Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2015 #55
It was reported that some of the white adults were mad avebury Jun 2015 #57
The adults behaved badly from the start gwheezie Jun 2015 #60
If I had been the parent of the white girl avebury Jun 2015 #88
There is no defense for the cops. None! onecaliberal Jun 2015 #58
There is no way those cops can be defended treestar Jun 2015 #68
They always baselessly infer sinister motives to the victims, and this time is no exception. byronius Jun 2015 #71
Hell No! Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #75
Lt Pike vanamonde Jun 2015 #77
The cop was obviously a racist POS and deserves jail time for assaulting prayin4rain Jun 2015 #94
This has been an interesting experience. Some of you understand the place of anguish from which... Hekate Jun 2015 #100
It is clear she was following orders to leave and the cop wasn't listening to her. Rex Jun 2015 #101
To make it even worse, this guy is an actual police instructor. drray23 Jun 2015 #104
I rec'd already but didn't know if you'd seen this Vox piece Number23 Jun 2015 #105
I had not seen that. Thanks -- also for the Rec. Hekate Jun 2015 #106
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