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In reply to the discussion: I want to thank the defenders of misogyny [View all]BainsBane
(57,807 posts)Yours is your own business and I am not even slightly interested in trying to persuade you.
Yes, I get that I am failing to uphold the class project of the white bourgeoisie pissed off their bankers did them dirty. You all are perfectly capable of looking after yourselves. You were quite clear that you see the votes of the majority of the population as less, people Clinton were looking to attract because she couldn't get the first-class votes of the white male progressives. You talk about shame and pull out that bumper sticker crap that you think suffices for political analysis? I'm not going to be shamed into doing your bidding. You all can deal with your own bankers. I don't have bankers. I have my own interests, the ones you have made clear you look down on as less. Fine, consider them less. That's your business. But don't expect me to do your bidding after taking that posture.
As for Clinton's Wall Street donations, that chart people pass around is a farce. Candidates cannot take money from corporations. It's the law. The very chart that lists her major contributors as banks has another tab showing the contributions by industry, only lawyers, educators and women's groups are on the top of the list. Financial services is further down. Yet despite that, no lawyers, educators, or women's groups appear on the list of top individual contributors. Clearly that doesn't add up. You all don't examine the evidence because the entire meme is pretext.
I don't give even half a shit about your trip with the Third Way and DLC. People who worry about that kind of thing must lead pretty fucking charmed lives. The entire system, including Sanders and other progressive politicians, is part of the capitalist state, a state whose mythology you all buy into hook, line and sinker. The biggest delusion is pretending capital is about a single politician rather than a system. It's inane analysis that shows no understanding of the nature of the capitalist state. None of you critique capital. You talk about "corporations", a term that signals people who only recently started to think about income inequality. In fact, the hearkening back to the time of JFK and FDR shows me that inequality is not even a concern. Rather the goal is to re-establish the white middle and upper middle class back to what it sees as its birthright atop the capitalist world order. One of the True Believers who is continually insulting people far less fortunate than himself as being allied with Goldman Sachs told me that Sanders great solution to poverty is funding foodstamps--the same foodstamps supported by every DLC and Third Way candidate ever. So I get you all like to toss around a lot of buzz words, but I don't see that any of you advance any policies that are anything but centrist, status quo positions. You all are angry, but anger doesn't amount to policy or ideology. It's just emotion.
Lastly, Hillary Clinton is not an extension of her husband. She is her own person. Whatever trip you have with Bill Clinton is not about Hillary, but this continual reference to the Clintons shows an inability to see her as anything but an extension of her husband. He was president then. She was not. Additionally, how is it that none of you have any awareness of the context the DLC and Third Way emerged in? The Democratic Party had been shut out of the Presidency for most of twenty years. Reaganism was a religion. The point was to win the presidency. Now, perhaps you would have preferred another 20 years of Republicans in the White House rather than a DLC. It wouldn't surprise me. Regardless, the political context today is different. The country has moved to the left. HILLARY Clinton is not running on her husband's platform, not even close.