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81. Rank & file Rs & Ds bipartisanly support Bernie

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:18 AM

Jun 2015

Why? Because the rank & file of all political persuasions want to keep our jobs home, keep our tax dollars home and most importantly, keep our children home - i.e., not suckered into enlisting as cannon fodder for the MIC and One Percent in their endless bloodthirsty profiteering. The rank & file don't want endless war as a vehicle to keep transferring wealth - what pittance of wealth is left in the rank and file, that is.

Witness Bernie's warm reception in red state New Hampshire: http://politicalmoll.com/and-the-crowd-went-wild/

HRC's response: I want to listen to Bernie milking a cow? Or maybe, I want to listen to cows?
HRC, as per usual is long on words, short on actions.
Still waiting for her to condemn TPP, which would involve her apologizing for her previous support of it. Oh wait, she can just claim it was a "tough choice."

The toughest choice HRC has to make? Which billionaire supporter's private jet to borrow.

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Hillary Offers a Path Forward Beyond the Gridlock [View all] upaloopa Jun 2015 OP

More... Wilms Jun 2015 #1

The path forward aka the third way. bunnies Jun 2015 #2

Do you have a better plan to lift congress out of a grid lock? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #11

You assume that the gridlock is a bad thing Scootaloo Jun 2015 #55

+1 historylovr Jun 2015 #65

The GOP loves gridlock. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #102

Actually, companies love gridlock- regardless of their political persuasion snooper2 Jun 2015 #110

So? historylovr Jun 2015 #115

Here here. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #73

The corollary is then also true, and any progressive legislation is denied too, yes? LanternWaste Jun 2015 #124

Yeah. Elect more people like Sanders and Warren to the Senate and House. PatrickforO Jun 2015 #64

They are both members in the Senate, they could lead the way to bipartisanship. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #71

Gridlock keeps the GOP from dashing the country to pieces and reversing 80 years of progress. leveymg Jun 2015 #101

Absolutely. The American people are tired of the same rhetoric that the billionaire's rhett o rick Jun 2015 #129

I think President Obama tried that kenfrequed Jun 2015 #133

so you really do not have a better plan to suggest. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #134

Uhm... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #136

Then I wonder why Congressional members are not using the bully pulpit. They are supposed Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #138

Well... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #148

she is as revolting a candidate as the party has ever put forth. Doctor_J Jun 2015 #39

That seems a bit harsh, but I do see why some here feel that way (her own doing, btw). InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #74

It isn't just that she's ideologically too right-wing. She's also a highly vulnerable candidate leveymg Jun 2015 #104

I hear ya. Time to bust Rethug heads, take back the Senate and House, and screw bi-partisonship. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #72

Exactly. Which means making trades often at the expense of the vulnerable. No thanks. To jwirr Jun 2015 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #3

"I don’t think I have all the right ideas." - Hillary PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #4

Gee, ya THINK?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #75

Agree, and some of her ideas are in the direction OPPOSITE closeupready Jun 2015 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author Paulie Jun 2015 #5

Forward to corporate domination and rule of the wealthy. The path surrender. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #6

.......so has she forgotten the last 30 years or something? jeff47 Jun 2015 #7

"Republicans from Lindsey Graham to John McCain have praised Hillary Clinton’s ability" Fumesucker Jun 2015 #8

Ugh! JEB Jun 2015 #9

Yes, since "reaching across the aisle" and "bipartisanship" have worked SO FUCKING WELL hatrack Jun 2015 #10

I haven't seen a lot of working across the aisle especially from 2010 to the present, if I missed Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #12

"Working across the aisle" would require Republicans to compromise. jeff47 Jun 2015 #15

This is why I questioned the time line from 2009 to present. it is gridlock, Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #16

Go read the post again instead of repeating yourself. jeff47 Jun 2015 #18

Go back to the post in the thread, I know what bipartisanship is, I know republicans refuse to give, Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #25

She can want a unicorn that shits gold. Doesn't mean it will appear. jeff47 Jun 2015 #29

So you want congress to remain a do nothing congress? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #32

Nope. I want a functional Congress. jeff47 Jun 2015 #35

And if she should be successful i doubt she would want to take credit but enjoy Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #40

The "compromises" of Bill Clinton like ending welfare and NAFTA? jeff47 Jun 2015 #42

you prefer the McConnell/Ryan agenda to gridlock? Doctor_J Jun 2015 #41

Where have I said I prefer McConnell/Ryan agenda, quiet the opposite. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #44

You said it when you wanted to compromise. jeff47 Jun 2015 #47

Maybe your definition of comprise is different from the one I use. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #48

Nope, I understand that compromise requires both sides to give up something. jeff47 Jun 2015 #49

Bye Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #51

Fleeing is always the indication of a winning position. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #53

If only you fucking meant it tkmorris Jun 2015 #59

Better a do-nothing Congress than an actively regressive one. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #135

This would be very good, we would need a 60 members in the Senate and 218 in the Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #137

Yes and since her name is "Clinton", Republicans will be eager to cooperate! hatrack Jun 2015 #30

What would be your plan to change a gridlock disfunctional congress? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #98

How about the Democratic party fight for what they believe so people will vote for them. Dawgs Jun 2015 #103

Just explain how this is going to work when the Democrats are not in the majority. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #108

It won't work. Republicans will never grow up. Dawgs Jun 2015 #109

So Did Obama RobinA Jun 2015 #97

Needed for what? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #56

Well at least this is authentic. Better than being a fake progressive. RiverLover Jun 2015 #13

The one guy did not scare Hillary, she said what she needed to say. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #17

I'm with you there River. Better to be who she really is than a complete phony. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #79

It isn't going to last long. It makes me ill that she'll be making her first major speech at FDR RiverLover Jun 2015 #87

Well said. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #144

so wrong DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #14

Bipartisanship may be a dirty word, Congress should be about working on problems and resolving issue Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #20

The party of NO and Green Eggs and Ham got them a majority in both houses. jeff47 Jun 2015 #23

Then an election is coming up in 2016 and by voting it can change. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #28

Nope. They will keep the House in 2016. jeff47 Jun 2015 #34

she lies, every day, on every subject Doctor_J Jun 2015 #37

Why are you not providing links to the site? morningfog Jun 2015 #19

Optics. It has to look like spontaneous posts from a bunch of "regular" people. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #22

This is some ham handed optics. What a joke. morningfog Jun 2015 #24

Bah. These are experienced operatives! They know how to win a campaign! jeff47 Jun 2015 #26

Completely short-sighted Aerows Jun 2015 #50

Kind of looks like spam. Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #31

Triangulation! The Triangle is purple! daredtowork Jun 2015 #21

She is striking the right tone. Even if a Democrat ends up having to go it alone stevenleser Jun 2015 #27

Yes, she worked across the lines while she was in the Senate. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #33

If that's the right tone Aerows Jun 2015 #46

Yep, it's the right one. Nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #83

No, the TeaPubliKlan radical regressive are all but utterly wrong, willfully destructive to TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #58

Yes, it's the right thing to say. I wouldn't want to elect someone who says otherwise. Nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #84

Of course you wouldn't. I suggest your mindset is even more a share of the problem than the TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #93

That you don't get it is sad. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #118

Oh I get it and have had quite enough of it, thank you. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #141

Big surprise. Dawgs Jun 2015 #105

That you don't get it is also no big surprise. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #117

Oh, I get it. n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #120

I can't even believe that she is campaigning on giving the republicans even more. Doctor_J Jun 2015 #36

Yawn, her long record of supporting the Status Quo is firmly entrenched Joe Turner Jun 2015 #38

"a warm purple space" Prism Jun 2015 #43

Reminds me of Sybil hootinholler Jun 2015 #94

That path that she speaks of Aerows Jun 2015 #45

Btw, thanks for this post. jeff47 Jun 2015 #52

This Approach Did Not Work For Obama - Why Will It Work For HRC - More Empty Rhetoric cantbeserious Jun 2015 #54

That's a laugh and a half. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #57

I just came back for a re-read... Purple sauce? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #60

And what is strategy, her plan, for bringing my neighbors and I into that warm purple space. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #61

Appeasement and capitulation or revolution... I choose revolution. Kip Humphrey Jun 2015 #62

I'm with you Kip. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #77

Bipartisanship is damaging to a 50 state strategy. joshcryer Jun 2015 #63

I'm stuck on the point that she was in San Jose area, LAST week... SoapBox Jun 2015 #66

Jesus... Here We Go Again... WillyT Jun 2015 #67

Hillary Clinton has more baggage Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #68

Oh, Joy! Triangulation....again. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #69

"Hillary spoke about the importance of bipartisanship" Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #70

...Dead armadillos? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #76

It's based on a famous Jim Hightower quote.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #80

Perfectly calculated to appeal to TransitJohn Jun 2015 #78

excellent comment. n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #85

Rank & file Rs & Ds bipartisanly support Bernie Divernan Jun 2015 #81

Cool thread. n/t Wilms Jun 2015 #82

Mrs. Clinton is right to ask for bipartisanship Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #86

wow. what utter nonsense. cali Jun 2015 #88

... 99Forever Jun 2015 #89

Let me say something madokie Jun 2015 #90

Yes. That's not even hyperbole. closeupready Jun 2015 #131

So yesterday madokie Jun 2015 #132

K&R NCTraveler Jun 2015 #91

seriously? you actually believe that bipartisanship with today's republicans cali Jun 2015 #95

On numerous issues, yes. One hundred percent. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #100

Co-sponsoring bills as Senators is a lot different than getting cooperation as President. Dawgs Jun 2015 #106

I fully agree with you. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #107

She shouldn't waste her breath singing "kumbaya." Vinca Jun 2015 #92

Freakin' Seriously??? RobinA Jun 2015 #96

What a waste of a magic wish muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #99

It's the correct answer for HIllary FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #121

Yes, worrying about 'divisiveness' is the 'correct' DC Village thing to do muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #123

More Third Way bullshit LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #111

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #113

What a load. Phlem Jun 2015 #114

Nice, but either naive or bullshit I'm afraid whatthehey Jun 2015 #116

She hasn't learned anything. Broward Jun 2015 #119

Sure she has, she has learned that you can fool some of the people all of the time Fumesucker Jun 2015 #122

I thought that the talking point is Hillary will *fight* the Republicans better than anyone else? Fumesucker Jun 2015 #125

K&R! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #126

I am surprised to see so many here who wants to continue with the GOP gridlock, I would have Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #127

What would you like the people to give up to please the Republicans? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #140

Where did the conclusion risk of Social Security, women's rights etc come? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #143

The Repuglicans will not give in. That has been well established over this President's term. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #146

This is why talking to each other and co-sponsoring bills together and it still does happen Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #147

Obama said same thing after his election. Why would we believe it would turn out differently? peacebird Jun 2015 #128

Ugh she's following the Obama playbook from '08 Maven Jun 2015 #139

Ok, so what's her actual plan? How does she break up the Republican phalanx? JHB Jun 2015 #142

I will not let Hillary take this road. I hitched my wagon FrankUnderwood Jun 2015 #145