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HereSince1628

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10. That result in WI follows a habit of low voter turnout in off-year elections.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:23 AM
Jun 2015

Why this is, is as you say, not a simple problem, but it most assuredly has elements that demonstrate patterns that involve race. Race per se as an explanatory factor is questionable but it does appear to be a highly correlated confounder to yet named effector that moves the pattern.

Wisconsin, like many states, has a population that isn't distributed uniformly, most of the people live in urban areas, and most of them in Milwaukee:
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This distribution creates something of a everyone else vs Milwaukee political arena, although it isn't always just Republican against Milwaukee (nw WI, wsw WI, and Janesville-Madison area have democratic strength but except for Madison low population/little power).

Because the distribution of African Americans largely follows the urban vs everyone else pattern, it's easily mixed into attempts to explain WI politics. There is no doubt racism is a strong undercurrent in Milw. The impact of discrimination against blacks is still an important factor in explaining almost every social and economic issue in the city and the county.

The national democratic party struggles against its image as an urban party, but by the numbers it turns out that most WI dem voters are urban and significantly African American (the largest exception to this is the Green Bay-Appleton-Oskosh corridor, which while basically urban has low African American population and identifies with much of the northland as anti-Milwaukee and is republican)

Urban democrats in WI (as shown above, largely blacks) tend to have a significantly lower turnout in off-year and special elections than in national elections. Why is that? Possibly because significance of such elections is viewed as less important. Perhaps because local and state politics have had a history of making less difference to the lives of these voters than have national politics.
Perhaps because polling equipment is unequally distributed to make voting time consuming, perhaps because part-time workers can't risk their jobs by committing time to vote. It is a plaguing but unresolved question.

Whatever underlies the problem, its a dynamic that involves black voters in WI. The off-year turnout penalty realized by WI dems is at the heart of the ~5%-~8% swing in Democratic strength between gubernatorial elections (off year, and one special elections) and national elections in WI. It largely accounts for how this purple state routinely goes for Democratic presidential candidates, but goes for Scott Walker




















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This shithole I live in would reelect brownback tomorrow..... Logical Jun 2015 #1
Do the people realize the financial mess he has caused in the state? still_one Jun 2015 #2
So sadly true world wide wally Jun 2015 #3
This might be why Race forums are so eager to separate the Social from the Economic daredtowork Jun 2015 #4
Voting Against Their Own Interests napkinz Jun 2015 #5
He was right then and the statement is still true. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #8
Bingo. hifiguy Jun 2015 #14
Yep, racism is the primary plank in Wanker's policy platform. Classism is second. Scuba Jun 2015 #6
Remind me of the color of the guy Wisconsin voted for President in 2012... brooklynite Jun 2015 #7
And where were those voters in 2014? hobbit709 Jun 2015 #9
Sitting at home, not interested in voting for a Republican-lite candidate. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #12
And Obama wasn't Republican lite? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #16
Which Obama? jeff47 Jun 2015 #18
He also stated in 2008 that Ronald Reagan was his hero. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #19
It's generally a good idea to actually read all the way through the post. jeff47 Jun 2015 #21
I'm not going to argue with you about what Obama meant in 2008. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #23
Except for the 3 posts where you argue about what Obama meant in 2008. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #24
What difference does it make now? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #26
IDK. You brought it up. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #28
That result in WI follows a habit of low voter turnout in off-year elections. HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #10
Blaming the voters is the stupid thing in your post. jeff47 Jun 2015 #11
I live here in kansas and disagree with you! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #13
Yeah, a Democratic candidate proudly announcing his Republican endorsements really shows a contrast. jeff47 Jun 2015 #15
If you think a left winger has a shot in hell you are nuts! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #20
They don't have to run Che Guevara to create a contrast. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #25
I live in this miserable place too. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #17
So my question is this..... Sheepshank Jun 2015 #22
Your analysis assumes identical turnout. jeff47 Jun 2015 #27
isn't that what the straw poll is trying imply? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #29
No, the straw poll is self-selected, and party activists. jeff47 Jun 2015 #30
OMFG Sheepshank Jun 2015 #31
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