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Ebadlun

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67. Incorrect to who?

Sat May 12, 2012, 09:53 PM

May 2012

If enough people use it, it's correct. It's de facto the standard. One thing language is not is logical and consistent.

In this case, a reflexive pronoun can be used with another subject and it sounds right - "Neither myself nor my staff". It just does, because people do it. It wouldn't sound right by itself - "Myself believes". Why? Who knows, but it's the way English is today.

If you disagree, you have to appeal to some sort of higher authority, but which one? The God of English? The only authority for English is people who speak English.

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I'm a teacher, and I will be making the following announcement to all my classes tomorrow: [View all] LetTimmySmoke May 2012 OP

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and a felony when a dangerous weapon is used. sunnystarr May 2012 #32

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