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Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:34 PM

Jun 2015

Who is that you are voting for that agrees with you on Israel?

Too focused on economics in the most heavily capitalist nation with corporations capturing even the government, people are struggling, too many have been sunk maybe forever, and we have a gilded age level wealth disparity in the shadow of the economy being ravaged and almost all the gains since went straight to the top? Your mileage may vary but I consider the position pretty much insane. I don't want to downplay immigration because I too believe it is important but the impact of the economy trumps it easily, those immigrants will need to eat, have shelter, and build a future too. I don't see how just pumping more labor into the mix under the current paradigm is really helping the vast majority of people.

Last two are where reasonable people can disagree, particularly the F35 where I agree but it is jobs for his state and contrary to some accusations I don't demand absolute perfection and his OVERALL positions in this arena and about any you can name are top notch.

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Hillary's DNC declines Sanders' request for more debates [View all] cali Jun 2015 OP

What, pray tell, could fredamae Jun 2015 #1

6 is enough yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #61

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #64

In my dreams? fredamae Jun 2015 #77

That would not work yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #87

How about fredamae Jun 2015 #114

Or, in fact, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #124

I think that the one on the too-big-to-fail institutions hifiguy Jun 2015 #152

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #183

Oh, stop making sense! nt MADem Jun 2015 #244

Well the number is all over the board. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #95

How many shots was Floyd Mayweather supposed to give Manny Pacquiao?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #184

That all depends ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #188

Respectfully...I disagee fredamae Jun 2015 #67

Debates rarely are "debates", they are simply rehearsed policy statements, and rehashed... George II Jun 2015 #99

We need to change that, obviously fredamae Jun 2015 #109

And there is a good reason for that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #136

Very true - personally I see very little if any value to debates. Like I said.... George II Jun 2015 #174

Nor do/have I ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #185

Does anyone really believe ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #127

How can we know unless we try? n/t fredamae Jun 2015 #130

Compare the viewer numbers for American Idol (or a similarly vacuous reality show) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #141

You make a good point fredamae Jun 2015 #147

You are wildly incorrect about that. The last Romney/Obama debate drew over 67 million viewers Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #173

Yes ... That was meant to be hyberbolic. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #186

How do primary debates do? gollygee Jun 2015 #222

Primary debates are very different from general election ones. MADem Jun 2015 #245

It's not like the debates next year are the first in history. There were TWENTY SIX in 2007/2008... George II Jun 2015 #175

I'm not really asking fredamae Jun 2015 #207

It's pretty basic. okasha Jun 2015 #157

That's why every election (primary or general) the underdog wants more... George II Jun 2015 #176

Sure. okasha Jun 2015 #180

Gee...why didn't I see that...of course it makes some sense. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #209

Exactly. okasha Jun 2015 #229

"Hillary's DNC"? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #2

no, it's stating the obvious: the DNC is functionally an arm of her campaign cali Jun 2015 #4

It's not O'Malley's DNC? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #7

Well, DNC implemented a new policy to hurt O'Malley jeff47 Jun 2015 #14

let's not play this stupid little game cali Jun 2015 #16

Sorry, but you started the stupid little game with your title. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #126

Boyd Brown, a DNC member and O'Malley supporter, called Sanders KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #19

Yes I called and still waiting for my apology as I'm a card carrying member too TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #226

Yup....sure is! Segami Jun 2015 #40

Hillary's scared to debate Bernie, as she should be. Plain and simple. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #251

"Delicate Hillary", lol. I gotta laugh at the venom. bettyellen Jun 2015 #6

Are you opposed to debates? sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #9

I'm opposed to lifting descriptors from MRA pigs to describe our candidates. bettyellen Jun 2015 #18

sorry, I didn't lift a thing. the DNC is shielding her. cali Jun 2015 #68

She is the Party's (edited) Estabishment candidate for sure. mylye2222 Jun 2015 #81

No, she's the party establishment's candidate Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #106

In fact I miss stated. When I say the Party I meant Dem powerstructures. mylye2222 Jun 2015 #110

Because she's such a "delicate flower"... Yeah. It's just funny when you see those words to describe bettyellen Jun 2015 #205

Yeah, if she was such a "delicate flower" she could not have stood up to that sniper fire in Bosnia tularetom Jun 2015 #228

Delicate flower= war hawk, too. It's a pretty stupid inept word to use on Hillary I'd say! bettyellen Jun 2015 #250

"Delicate" is on the bad word list now? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #78

Its not a bad word, but used in that context its offensive and bordering on sexist. George II Jun 2015 #177

It's the same sneering accusations that sexist jerks and their enablers use against women... bettyellen Jun 2015 #201

Politics is tough. If your candidate does things that make it hard for you to defend, it's even sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #164

Good post, sabrina 1... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #256

+1. Fair point. nt MADem Jun 2015 #246

so how many debates are planned? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #32

Really? Go ahead and contrast Clinton's and Sanders's position on Western water law. jeff47 Jun 2015 #39

we need to hear every single freaking opinion via a debate? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #42

Campaign platforms lack depth. Debate is where candidates must supply that depth. jeff47 Jun 2015 #47

nope...I simply don't agree that regional single issues must be hammered out via debate Sheepshank Jun 2015 #50

You also think Romney was the Republican nominee in 2008. jeff47 Jun 2015 #53

so I didn't pay close attention to the year, I assumed..... Sheepshank Jun 2015 #63

No, we're comparing the primaries where there was no incumbent Democrat. jeff47 Jun 2015 #84

I think the term is "impotent rage" Sheepshank Jun 2015 #119

The water issues don't concern me. I don't live in states governed by them. jeff47 Jun 2015 #134

nope...still you persist in stating things I never said Sheepshank Jun 2015 #144

And you persist in ignoring the most important question. jeff47 Jun 2015 #151

Seriously, you are not convincing me one bit. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #163

Zero credibility is what you have earned. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #187

so here comes Flash to save the day? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #196

I really don't care if I convince you. jeff47 Jun 2015 #199

so if you don't care about convincing me, why do persist in lengthy responses? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #202

Already covered. Try reading the post. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #203

Talk about thread jacking. hedda_foil Jun 2015 #255

No, I think it's a swipe at Clinton, implying that she controls the DNC, which is offensive. George II Jun 2015 #100

why would that be offensive? 2banon Jun 2015 #113

How many debates do you think there should be? Beaverhausen Jun 2015 #3

10-12. there were 26 in 2008 cali Jun 2015 #5

we all got to see 26 debates between Obama and Romney? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #35

:facepalm: jeff47 Jun 2015 #52

you don't know enough to discuss this. cali Jun 2015 #71

cherry picking which election you want to use? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #74

how did Cali attempt to mislead? She clearly stated 2008, which was magical thyme Jun 2015 #98

oh, bull Sheepshank Jun 2015 #122

why no. one was in prison, Randall Terry was another. they were all the fringiest cali Jun 2015 #149

hey, BS Supporter, your constant insults throughout this thread really don't help BS that much nt Sheepshank Jun 2015 #160

And by being ignorant, you're not helping Hillary's case.. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #191

REALLY? I think like that? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #195

The prisoner, I believe, is Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #189

his opponents in the GOP held 20 debates starting in 5/2011 and continuing magical thyme Jun 2015 #159

how utterly useless was all of that? n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #161

it drove out the riff-raff one by one, and left them with Romney and whazzizzname. magical thyme Jun 2015 #171

That has never stopped them before LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #168

Why does Bernie need more than 6 to lay out his platform and distinguish pnwmom Jun 2015 #242

I would like to see 6 between the Democratic candidates and then add more in areas that are not so jwirr Jun 2015 #8

Obviously, you're not from Texas. okasha Jun 2015 #236

Didn'r say he could. I said that I think it is a good idea that will help bring those who have long jwirr Jun 2015 #237

That needs one-on-one door-knocking retail politics. okasha Jun 2015 #238

Again you have totally missed to point - it is not about winning in Texas - it is about encouaging jwirr Jun 2015 #239

No, I didn't miss the point, and I'm talking about both okasha Jun 2015 #243

From the DNC? 6 is fine. The problem is the exclusivity clause. jeff47 Jun 2015 #11

Bingo! Scuba Jun 2015 #26

Have they even tried to give a reason for the exclusivity clause? azmom Jun 2015 #73

Not one that stands up to any scrutiny. They've said 6 is enough. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #91

Yeah, that doesn't adress it. It smells bad. azmom Jun 2015 #97

what is the exclusivity clause? nt 6chars Jun 2015 #80

If you show up to a debate run by anyone else, you can't be in the DNC debates. jeff47 Jun 2015 #86

Is this documented anywhere? Know where I can go to read up on that? Thanks. George II Jun 2015 #116

Google gives you lots of results. jeff47 Jun 2015 #120

Candidates who appear in any debate outside of those six will be barred from attending a sanctioned azmom Jun 2015 #92

Ah, like a non-compete clause 6chars Jun 2015 #111

What is this "exclusivity clause"? Not familiar with that, but if it refers to debates between.... George II Jun 2015 #104

Read the post above yours. jeff47 Jun 2015 #115

And the blatant display of bias with the DNC Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #193

please explain the exclusivity clause questionseverything Jun 2015 #212

Please read the many other replies already present that explain it. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #213

so yes is the answer questionseverything Jun 2015 #215

Minimum, 25. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #65

Do you seriously think most voters would watch that many debates? Beaverhausen Jun 2015 #221

DLC/DNC. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #10

We should follow the TTP model JEB Jun 2015 #12

You say it's sarcasm, but you know candidates have said things you know hughee99 Jun 2015 #29

Certainly feels like some are trying to hide JEB Jun 2015 #34

Post a link proof that it is "Hillary's DNC." Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #13

You mean like the new exclusivity clause the DNC inserted into debates? jeff47 Jun 2015 #15

Post a linke to something with her name on it showing that Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #20

Hey! Where'd those goalposts go?! jeff47 Jun 2015 #22

If if is "Hillary's DNC" then we need proof not goal posts. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #24

No, what we need is reading comprehension. jeff47 Jun 2015 #27

Prove she is part of the decision or Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #169

So the party just happened to make a decision that benefits her jeff47 Jun 2015 #190

The Democratic and Republican parties are both limiting the number of debates this election. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #224

Yes, and the RNC can articulate the reason why. The DNC can't. jeff47 Jun 2015 #234

This message was self-deleted by its author hughee99 Jun 2015 #33

0 merit heaven05 Jun 2015 #51

beyond lame cali Jun 2015 #155

Really? No one can be that naive. n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #17

A personal attack instead of proof. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #25

you mean aside from structuring the debates so that they benefit no one but cali Jun 2015 #21

I mean prove that she she is running the DNC Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #23

Stupid, childish game playing. Just stop. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #36

the game playing was the title of the OP. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #128

So, you disagree that the DNC is all-in for Hillary? For the record, ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #140

Yes MohRokTah Jun 2015 #143

"Yes" is not an explanation as to why the DNC is not in Hillary's pocket. Thanks for nothing. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #153

I didn't say that cali Jun 2015 #37

I would assert the claim proven at this point. Chan790 Jun 2015 #49

You actually think these are "Extraordinary claims" ? 2banon Jun 2015 #102

Its Obama's DNC. DURHAM D Jun 2015 #28

they're sharing it. cali Jun 2015 #72

Prove it. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #129

Maybe this decision will backfire when Sanders takes the lead and NCjack Jun 2015 #30

After the first debate, when Bernie crosses that line between Clinton and himself, and never Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #208

LOL...I like the way you think. n/t Oilwellian Jun 2015 #249

The other candidates should boycott the DNC debates BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #31

I suspect she'd be fine with that. she has the biggest shiniest Wurlitzer cali Jun 2015 #38

The whole thing is stupid beyond words BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #45

no surprise heaven05 Jun 2015 #41

He has been on so many news programs the last few months yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #79

yes heaven05 Jun 2015 #138

One Wonders Why - What Does HRC Have To Hide cantbeserious Jun 2015 #43

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #58

You May Be Right cantbeserious Jun 2015 #82

Vince Foster?????? MohRokTah Jun 2015 #131

Wow. Bit of a harsh jury hide there IMO. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #146

Jeez sharp_stick Jun 2015 #137

IMO, the other candidates HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #231

I can't believe tom quotes this crap on his show stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #44

did he? good. cali Jun 2015 #76

Hillary would love NO debates if she could pull it off. 7962 Jun 2015 #46

has she said that? I think your *opinion* is false Sheepshank Jun 2015 #56

Her reluctance to have any uncontrolled events is enough proof 7962 Jun 2015 #179

Link doesn't say anything about Hillary's DNC. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #48

the DNC is operating as if she's an incumbent president cali Jun 2015 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Jun 2015 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Jun 2015 #83

+1 BeanMusical Jun 2015 #85

+2 mylye2222 Jun 2015 #107

No, it's not. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #133

A basic rule of politics is that the outsider always wants more debates than the frontrunner. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #54

We need more scripted rallies with freshly scrubbed high school kids beaming out at us. jalan48 Jun 2015 #55

Just make sure you bus in enough minorities to get the optics right. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #59

Definately! Young kids always play well on TV. So idealistic! jalan48 Jun 2015 #62

Six debates should be enough. Really does anyone really believe that after 6 debates those still_one Jun 2015 #60

bullshit cali Jun 2015 #66

most people won't watch even 6 debates still_one Jun 2015 #198

Yes. Please explain every candidate's position on Western water law. jeff47 Jun 2015 #69

Who cares. I know the main points where the candidates stand on the issues still_one Jun 2015 #200

"the minutiae" defines whether or not you have drinking water. jeff47 Jun 2015 #210

And you think people don't know where the candidates positions are? Those still_one Jun 2015 #216

Yes. They get zero coverage because they are not national issues. jeff47 Jun 2015 #232

Exactly. Most people won't watch more than two or three. And, chances are... stevenleser Jun 2015 #93

I agree. There is no one that follows politics that doesn't know where the candidates stand on the still_one Jun 2015 #204

But more ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #117

K&R. mylye2222 Jun 2015 #75

Sanders has no business making a request of the DNC - he does not have a "D" beside his name!! Sancho Jun 2015 #88

sorry. you'll have to take that up with the DNC cali Jun 2015 #108

I wish he would run as an independent except for one reason.... Sancho Jun 2015 #132

What problems do you have with his positions? Why would he be "afraid" to be a Democrat? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #223

I have a lot of problems with some of Bernie's positions... Sancho Jun 2015 #225

Why should I be able to sue Snapple because someone smashes a bottle over my head? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #227

Ok..this thread may not be the place to argue all the details...but.... Sancho Jun 2015 #230

This is pretty much true for the reasons you gave. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #192

You are right...Martin O'Malley will probably be a good debate opponent too.... Sancho Jun 2015 #217

Lincoln Chaffee will have issues, too. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #219

Yep...I get some of the repubs running away from the Tea Party, but they need to pay their dues. Sancho Jun 2015 #220

Salient analysis! Well done! nt MADem Jun 2015 #247

Every four years the underdog wants more debates than scheduled..it's almost a given... George II Jun 2015 #89

That's quite true George mcar Jun 2015 #103

More debates allows state/regional issues to be debated. jeff47 Jun 2015 #112

I've never heard or read a single complaint about too many debates.. EVER. 2banon Jun 2015 #172

The same 'impartial' DNC that called Bernie crazy? Wheree the finance chair is breaking the rules to peacebird Jun 2015 #90

That same DNClinton YES. mylye2222 Jun 2015 #101

Kick and R BeanMusical Jun 2015 #94

One a week.. N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #96

6 debates is enough Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #105

Why are DUers saying there are only TWO candidates? Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #118

Debates x Infinity Wouldn't Satisfy BS Supporters! Gamecock Lefty Jun 2015 #121

BS supporters lol...took me a second n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #123

LOL. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #148

Um, nobody owns the DNC. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #125

oh please. just how long have you been following politics? cali Jun 2015 #139

I've been following politics for over 4 decades MohRokTah Jun 2015 #142

no, you are being the latter. cali Jun 2015 #154

and you go from post to post to post insulting people Sheepshank Jun 2015 #158

lol. it's silly season. Bernie is doing quite well. cali Jun 2015 #162

I think the term is "Despite your insulting efforts" Bernie is doing quite well Sheepshank Jun 2015 #165

And so you resort to what is a personal attack. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #194

BTW, if Bernie Sanders had spent over three decades bulding relationships within the Democratic... MohRokTah Jun 2015 #197

True, people have the ability to direct who's in the DNC but almost always ignore it Chathamization Jun 2015 #166

There were 26 debates in the 2008 primary. Only 6 were DNC sponsored. jeff47 Jun 2015 #211

The GOP did way too many last primary. It was mind numbing—but, so were the candidates. C Moon Jun 2015 #135

Do You Have Recurring Donations? kracer20 Jun 2015 #145

Everyone who is surprised by this stand on your head... hifiguy Jun 2015 #150

Instead of increasing the number of debates awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #156

Yes! The League of Women Voters horseshoecrab Jun 2015 #233

Barack Obama is the sitting Democratic president. It's his DNC....not Hillary's. (eom) StevieM Jun 2015 #167

Six is probably enough. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #170

Hillary needs to stop listening to her friends and staff DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #178

The candidate who is behind in the polls always demands more and more and more debates bluestateguy Jun 2015 #181

Coronil noted that Carlos Andres Perez won Venezuela twice by promising the moon and stars MisterP Jun 2015 #182

The RNC determined that too many debates hurt their candidate in 2012 Gothmog Jun 2015 #206

If you're not confidant, this is how you react. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #214

Yes, because there are only so many times you can say "I want to empower communities & families" Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #218

The DNC has lost all legitimacy with this. They don't even bother with the pretense of fairness. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #235

Of course they do. nt LWolf Jun 2015 #240

Why can't he make his case in 6 debates? pnwmom Jun 2015 #241

+1. nt MADem Jun 2015 #248

The DNC needs to stop shielding Hillary. Certainly she's strong enough to stand on her own without protective cover. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #252

Yes but you know mylye2222 Jun 2015 #253

Certainly Bernie's case is strong enough that he can make it in 6 debates. pnwmom Jun 2015 #254