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Betty Karlson

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47. Pretty fine

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:00 AM

Jun 2015

In private, most rich christian republicans like to demonstrate good manners and make someone welcome, even if they have made life choices that most others never had to make. Rabid homophobia is the exception, not the rule.

Compare this to a 2003 reunion of George W. Bush's old classmates. One of them had declared herself to be a woman since the last time she had met the War Criminal.

Woman: "Hi, I'm femalename, but you may remember me as malename"
War Criminal: "Well, you came back as yourself."

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Rich republican christians are moderate to the extend that they accept in private what they condemn in public. So as long as you know them privately, there is always a chance to appeal to their willingness to bend the rules. Which is what they pretty openly invited Jenner to do.

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Caitlyn Jenner: New Identity Creates Problems at the Golf Course [View all] KamaAina Jun 2015 OP

Playing the ladies tees provides a huge advantage liberal N proud Jun 2015 #1

So she transitioned in order to shave a few strokes off her game? KamaAina Jun 2015 #2

Actually in casual play anyone can play the ladies' tees. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #4

Bruce was a very accomplished golfer. Caitlin is hardly going to reep positive advantages hlthe2b Jun 2015 #6

I'm guessing it was a joke :) goldent Jun 2015 #92

beat me to it, lol! nt Ligyron Jun 2015 #50

Saw Bruce on The Golf Channel playing with some other celebrities underpants Jun 2015 #3

This was the key part to me... seaglass Jun 2015 #5

Exactly.... hlthe2b Jun 2015 #7

I'm guessing mercuryblues Jun 2015 #24

Hmm, well, she's a Republican, so that would lean more to her accepting being grandfathered in. valerief Jun 2015 #53

She will ask to be grandfathered in, I'm sure. DawgHouse Jun 2015 #73

Having a hard time rustling up a shit to give about a rw'er having trouble at the country club NightWatcher Jun 2015 #8

Good gravy, she is a repuke! KamaAina Jun 2015 #10

Pretty fine Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #47

that's an interesting anecdote, is it true? Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #61

That was my point: there isn't much of a contrast Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #71

Ever heard of log cabin republicans? Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #48

gee, what a terrible problem to have. forgive me if I don't give a shit cali Jun 2015 #9

What you said. nt clarice Jun 2015 #26

Yes,I agree.. butterfly77 Jun 2015 #79

+1 I hate when celebrity gossip takes on the sanctimonious mask of social import RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #11

So it's not possible to care about child poverty and trans issues at the same time? KamaAina Jun 2015 #12

it's not a trans issue it's a golf-club policy issue Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #13

It is an issue that Caitlyn is facing KamaAina Jun 2015 #14

and as a transwoman she's up against golf club house rules Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #22

Not really Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #62

i didnt either my response was to the poster that thought there was a problem Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #63

So, who really ann--- Jun 2015 #51

You then believe the one issue specifically denies the concurrency of both issues? LanternWaste Jun 2015 #21

i believe that any woman who walked into that club would face the same issues Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #23

A lot of people are unable to focus on more than one concern at a time... you imply you're one of th LanternWaste Jun 2015 #19

Oh Jesus fuck you've got to be kidding me. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #20

First world problems. Actually more upper 1% problems. Initech Jun 2015 #15

Welp does she know she is going to make less money now too? lonestarnot Jun 2015 #16

Good one! KamaAina Jun 2015 #17

And thus the reality of living in a female body sets in - Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #18

I wonder. She's a wealthy republican, so hope for really "getting it", is dim. Zorra Jun 2015 #32

I don't know. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #41

My Bet Is RobinA Jun 2015 #70

Your comment at the end is perfect. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #25

So she is complaining about not being in the men's locker room? AngryAmish Jun 2015 #27

I wonder if that was OJ's club? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #28

Was Bruce Jenner the killer OJ was looking for madinmaryland Jun 2015 #39

That's the Riviera Country Club in the elegant Pacific Palisades. Where the reagans lived before calimary Jun 2015 #101

The problems of the downtrodden wealthy are heartbreaking. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #29

Because if there's one group that has it easy, it's transwomen. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #40

wealth insulates tremendously. cali Jun 2015 #65

Oh, don't worry, some are already trying their damnedest to puncture that insulation. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #67

She is going to learn about discrimination against women treestar Jun 2015 #110

If Caitlyn Jenner is a woman she should not be allowed on the mens locker room. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #30

Surely having a single locker room for all genders would solve this problem? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #31

Not unless there is a way for all members to be able to dress and toilet in private. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #33

One of the things that most struck me about our Europe trip in HS... Chan790 Jun 2015 #85

you are more than Snow Leopard Jun 2015 #37

They just need to put the locker room grill in an equally accessible place. nt MADem Jun 2015 #55

*THIS* is "the social" we have all been warned about. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #34

Boohoohoo rusty fender Jun 2015 #35

She certainly is. KamaAina Jun 2015 #36

Yes.. butterfly77 Jun 2015 #80

I love these threads. They're like bigot flypaper. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #81

I wonder who the bigot is? butterfly77 Jun 2015 #82

Why don't you look here? KamaAina Jun 2015 #83

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #87

Wow. Not even pretending anymore, are you? NuclearDem Jun 2015 #88

Couldn't be the ones deliberately using the wrong pronoun for a transwoman. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #84

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #89

She has been a woman all her life. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #90

That's not going to happen in this thread at least Major Nikon Jun 2015 #94

Good. This is really getting old. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #95

Sadly the other post just slipped by 3-4. Rex Jun 2015 #97

I voted to hide gollygee Jun 2015 #100

Thank you EarlG. uppityperson Jun 2015 #117

Thanks for the update uppityperson! Rex Jun 2015 #120

DAYUM...under the radar for a decade!!! nt MADem Jun 2015 #121

How did that RW bigot get 17,000 posts and last 10 years on DU? Zorra Jun 2015 #125

Don't go away angry...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #133

*she NuclearDem Jun 2015 #38

Tombstoned, really? rusty fender Jun 2015 #42

Nope, the transphobia is more than reason enough, I think. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #43

You think that you are a hero of rusty fender Jun 2015 #44

So, Caitlyn Jenner is not an actual transgender person. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #45

LOL! rusty fender Jun 2015 #46

Filed under wrong side of history... NuclearDem Jun 2015 #49

Whatever... rusty fender Jun 2015 #72

Yeah, shitting all over one of the most visible transgender figures in history NuclearDem Jun 2015 #74

Caitlyn may be a Repub, that's no excuse for using the wrong pronoun on purpose. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2015 #98

Call her a republic media whore, but continuing to use wrong pronoun and claim is not "actual" uppityperson Jun 2015 #118

According to you, rusty fender Jun 2015 #122

Not my hero at all. As I said, call them celebrity whore, but continued refusal to use someone's uppityperson Jun 2015 #123

Dear God, just stop! NuclearDem Jun 2015 #124

I was wondering if this was the reason. Thank you. uppityperson Jun 2015 #132

She just might become politically enlightened as a result of her transition. nt MADem Jun 2015 #52

She's 65. That's doubtful. If she's not enlightened by now, she'll never be. nt valerief Jun 2015 #54

Life does not end at 65. I know people who have changed their attitudes MADem Jun 2015 #56

My mother was past 70 when she ditched the GOP. riqster Jun 2015 #58

I have a neighbor like that too. nt MADem Jun 2015 #68

Anyone living as privileged as she has won't change. She's Republican! valerief Jun 2015 #60

If Dubya felt a need to transition, he very well might. MADem Jun 2015 #66

She's undergone a major change treestar Jun 2015 #111

Not Republicans. nt valerief Jun 2015 #112

Well, There's A Wish And A Prayer ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #57

Even though she is famous, people will react to her differently. MADem Jun 2015 #64

I Hope You're Right ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #75

She's Republican. And stated she was conservative. No way. valerief Jun 2015 #113

So was David Brock. MADem Jun 2015 #115

Brock switched in the 90s (after the Contract On America Congress) valerief Jun 2015 #116

Who made these little rules you are inventing? MADem Jun 2015 #119

Lindsay Graham may have his eye on Caitlin Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #59

Thread win! KamaAina Jun 2015 #69

Jury results. edbermac Jun 2015 #76

gosh, thanks! I think that's my first alert, but here is why I even posted that remark Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #107

She Should Not Appeal for Herself erpowers Jun 2015 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author NuclearDem Jun 2015 #78

What she wants to do is to be able to use the men's locker room. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #86

What she wants is access to equal facilities. KamaAina Jun 2015 #93

Most clubs have grills, card rooms etc. in the locker rooms AngryAmish Jun 2015 #99

And therein lies a large part of the problem KamaAina Jun 2015 #106

I have hung out in country clubs since I was 13 AngryAmish Jun 2015 #108

Missing My Bigger Point erpowers Jun 2015 #103

Eh, I was a jerk to jump down your throat. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #104

Do Not Think You Were A Jerk erpowers Jun 2015 #105

Meh. struggle4progress Jun 2015 #91

The bigger issue here is Trans rights, that Caitlyn is a republican, is irrelevant randys1 Jun 2015 #96

If it bothers her, she probably should have considered the consequences before now tularetom Jun 2015 #102

If you pay $150 K to join treestar Jun 2015 #109

They shouldn't have the food services segregated by gender gollygee Jun 2015 #114

I have been a guest at a country club a few times. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #127

Oh please gollygee Jun 2015 #128

Sometimes, people like to be around their own sex only! TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #129

So what? gollygee Jun 2015 #131

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