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catnhatnh

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29. Well...

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:20 AM

Jun 2015

...if the guy flying the drone is the owner of the company that makes or sells the drone then everything changes. As owner, every time he touches the controls that flight becomes a commercial flight and there are laws governing their use.

"In short, the proposed rules that have been a decade in the making would limit drones weighing no more than 55 lbs to flying no more than 100 mph at an altitude no higher than 500 feet. The FAA would ban their use at night and near airports. And, they could be operated only by someone with a certification who keeps the vehicle "in line of sight" at all times.

The FAA also will require anyone using Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) for commercial purposes to obtain a special pilot certification to operate them."

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CA company files charges against man for using his t-shirt to swat their $1350 drone to the ground [View all] Miles Archer Jun 2015 OP

Sounds like the shirt hit the fan. Orrex Jun 2015 #1

Boom! Good one! valerief Jun 2015 #3

Best quote of the day!!! gopiscrap Jun 2015 #12

. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #14

/thread Initech Jun 2015 #82

lol Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #100

OMG!! vanlassie Jun 2015 #132

From the video, it doesn't look like this guy had any right to do that. drm604 Jun 2015 #2

I wonder if the shirt guy has as much of a right to cross the street and beat off the drone. nt valerief Jun 2015 #4

Right. He should have called the police about it. drm604 Jun 2015 #7

I agree - I expected to see something at least arguably intrusive from the drone, petronius Jun 2015 #18

my son has an RC helicopter. On occasion it gets out in the street notadmblnd Jun 2015 #101

Quadrotors are dangerous, I wouldn't want anyone flying one near me Fumesucker Jun 2015 #5

I cut my back pretty good with mine. Codeine Jun 2015 #8

I had a little one that weighed an ounce or so Fumesucker Jun 2015 #13

They should have rotor guards. drm604 Jun 2015 #11

I took the guards off mine, Codeine Jun 2015 #15

That may be why mine is difficult to fly. drm604 Jun 2015 #17

The little ones are bulletproof. Codeine Jun 2015 #20

Yes, I've calibrated it. drm604 Jun 2015 #53

Plenty of crashes without the guard. Codeine Jun 2015 #57

The problem with flying indoors is the quad makes air currents which then disturb the hover Fumesucker Jun 2015 #21

The problem with a software simulator drm604 Jun 2015 #59

There are joysticks available for the PC and there are adapters to allow a transmiiter too.. Fumesucker Jun 2015 #62

He was close enough to swat it because he walked over TO swat it. gcomeau Jun 2015 #23

The pilot could and should have steered it away from him Fumesucker Jun 2015 #25

And since the guy was intent on approaching it... gcomeau Jun 2015 #26

Twenty feet in the air and it would have been out of tee shirt range Fumesucker Jun 2015 #30

Bottom line, there was an attacker and an attacked gcomeau Jun 2015 #32

so if I am about to run my lawnmower over your foot and... Human101948 Jun 2015 #63

Nobody was about to get "run over". gcomeau Jun 2015 #79

Before the smack, the drone was moving away... (nt) petronius Jun 2015 #36

Not fast enough or far enough Fumesucker Jun 2015 #38

IMO, you are applying an unreasonable standard for the public sphere petronius Jun 2015 #44

I'm an actual RC pilot, I would have kept the thing far away from the man as a matter of course Fumesucker Jun 2015 #51

And what if the drone was flown low enough to catch avebury Jun 2015 #56

What if? It wasn't a child - and we have no way of knowing what the operator would petronius Jun 2015 #60

Much as car on the street being closely approached by a pedestrian is an error... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #37

I don't know about you but if I see a pedestrian about to step in the road I take evasive action Fumesucker Jun 2015 #41

Lol, nope! You are way wrong on this topic. Nt Logical Jun 2015 #71

It wasnt close to him until we walked over to it! wow, watch the video! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #66

You might try reading the thread, I've already responded to that point Fumesucker Jun 2015 #67

Yes, and people have been killed by kids riding bicycles in the street. So what? Xithras Jun 2015 #108

Strawman, I said nothing about banning flying drones Fumesucker Jun 2015 #131

I got worse than that from a weed eater last week... I started it up on my front porch and the head Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #130

If CA had Stand Your Ground laws that shite wouldn't fly aikoaiko Jun 2015 #6

Oh, you do drone on and on, don't you? randome Jun 2015 #9

California does have Stand Your Ground laws. ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #105

That drone was an imminent danger to both Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #10

The Drone should be considered a nuisance under city ordinances. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #16

A) I wouldn't pay a dime; B) I'd countersue for invasion of privacy; C) I'd take a jury trial Romulox Jun 2015 #19

People have the right to film in public. Codeine Jun 2015 #22

There is a reasonable expectation of privacy in one's home, grounds, and appurtenant buildings. Romulox Jun 2015 #24

I'm pretty sure that legally that is public. Codeine Jun 2015 #27

As I mentioned, I'd take the jury trial. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #28

As an aside, I had a Blade 450 and a TRex 450, and had to stop flying them because of these camera Romulox Jun 2015 #49

I admire the skill it takes to fly an RC heli, Codeine Jun 2015 #58

A property owner generally cannot restrict the photographing of the property LanternWaste Jun 2015 #40

"Generally" is the operative word. Can I set up a telescope into your bedroom from the sidewalk? Romulox Jun 2015 #42

Absent a specific legal prohibition such as a statute or ordinance, you are legally entitled to take LanternWaste Jun 2015 #45

No, this is wrong. There is a right to privacy in one's home that supersedes one's right to film. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #46

No doubt, if you believe as such, you can provide case precedent... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #50

Case precedent to not being prosecuted? Um, you've got it backwards. First you find a charge, Romulox Jun 2015 #52

Finding a charge will be easy. Destruction of property. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #54

For the third (fourth?) time: TRIAL BY JURY. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #68

I'm not so sure it would help Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #73

Civil and criminal actions are two different things. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #74

Yes I'm well aware of that fact Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #76

A) and B) in my original post to this thread refer to civil consequences. C) to criminal. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #77

Nice stretch! This was not close to what you described! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #65

I have no idea to what you refer. Less exclamation marks, more argument, please. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #69

California law prohibits photographing a homes "private" areas from the outside. Xithras Jun 2015 #124

Nope! But nice try! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #64

Nonsense. Set up a telephoto lens outside a home and test your theory. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #70

Umm. Have you heard of paparazzi? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2015 #125

The drone had no camera Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #34

It clearly had a GoPro attached. Watch again. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #35

Ok It still doesnt really change anything Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #39

Don't film people in their homes, and we won't have to find out. Do so, and these issues will be Romulox Jun 2015 #43

A person standing in the street can film the front of your house! Shit, google.... Logical Jun 2015 #72

It's not as cut and dry as you assert. You can't film in my bedroom from the street, for example. Romulox Jun 2015 #75

Lol, you have not thought about this very long i can see. Nt Logical Jun 2015 #80

Wonderful arguments. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #84

DON'T FILM ME! snooper2 Jun 2015 #134

It was clearly in a public street jberryhill Jun 2015 #81

Oh, we don't have anything like the facts necessary to know Romulox Jun 2015 #83

lol jberryhill Jun 2015 #85

Sanctions in small claims court? LOL rightbackatcha. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #87

Depending on the jurisdiction, yeah jberryhill Jun 2015 #93

Filing a counterclaim for a common law tort by a pro se litigant in a small claims Romulox Jun 2015 #94

deliberately saying you'd filing a meritless claim is enough jberryhill Jun 2015 #95

Good thing I didn't say that, eh? nt Romulox Jun 2015 #96

"In ones own home"??? You drunk? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #88

Make a good point, and THEN we'll start an argument. The aimless belligerence is boring. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #91

It never left the street! The idiot came out of his yard and attacked it..... Logical Jun 2015 #104

c) I'd vote to convict. Bonx Jun 2015 #98

So should he also have attacked whoever was filming the incident? drm604 Jun 2015 #112

Well... catnhatnh Jun 2015 #29

Drunk Moron RandiFan1290 Jun 2015 #31

Apt title. Well done. Bonx Jun 2015 #99

Well, when dove season opens, better not be a drone overhead: Invasive species. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #33

the drone wasn't on the asshole's property and frogmarch Jun 2015 #47

Sure he does. Because... drone. Bonx Jun 2015 #97

Ugh, fuxsnooze link! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #48

I think it is a public menance. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #55

Ha! Codeine Jun 2015 #61

If I saw one in my back yard, I would try my damnedest to swat it down. Or take a hose to it. djean111 Jun 2015 #78

Do you know it was? Maybe it flew inside his house!! nt Logical Jun 2015 #89

That's what I was asking - all we saw was the scene in the street, maybe it was buzzing around his djean111 Jun 2015 #92

you all are taking this very seriously d_r Jun 2015 #86

I'm with Nelson Throd Jun 2015 #103

nice blue micro-bus Go Vols Jun 2015 #90

If a drone anywhere got the 'Bluto treatment,' I think I could look the other way. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #102

My son flies quads. That would have ended in physical violence if someone did that to his. Xithras Jun 2015 #106

Out of curiosity, Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #109

He flies them in front of my house at least once a week. Xithras Jun 2015 #110

As long as he keeps the drone over your property, I have no problem with it. Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #111

You don't live in the suburbs, do you? Xithras Jun 2015 #113

Actually, we do live in the suburbs. Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #114

Not a bit. Xithras Jun 2015 #115

I have to ask. Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #116

Sloped driveways Xithras Jun 2015 #120

Kids don't do that in your neighborhood? Codeine Jun 2015 #117

we have quite a few here Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #127

Sure, lets fight over a damaged hobby. Calling police is a smarter idea. nt Logical Jun 2015 #118

It has nothing to do with intelligence. Xithras Jun 2015 #121

LOL, I love tough guys who have no fucking idea who they are fighting. "disrespect", LOL, are you... Logical Jun 2015 #126

Nope. Xithras Jun 2015 #128

Huntington Beach. Great waves. Great weather. Great memories. Vattel Jun 2015 #107

I loathe the very thought of drones and would like to see them all swatted down. Nosey-Parkers. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #119

I fly my little UDI camera-quad all the time. Codeine Jun 2015 #123

"I love seeing aerial views of my neighborhood---I make do with Google. I don't need to spy. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #133

the drones are coming the drones are coming! snooper2 Jun 2015 #135

Enrique Iglesias Bloody Drone Accident kwassa Jun 2015 #122

I don't know why, but I find those things intensely irritating. hunter Jun 2015 #129