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cascadiance

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102. So the party would RATHER have him just run in the general election instead...

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:42 PM

Jun 2015

... and basically help the Republicans win! It would seem from what is being said here, many here would rather a corporatist Republican be president than a populist Bernie!

Fortunately, it would seem that Bernie hates the idea of him running help a Republican win, which is why he's running in the Democratic Primary given the way the system is rigged towards only one of the two major parties winning, and those controlling them controlling our government that some here don't seem to have a nproblem with that so many other Americans do (and not necessarily just liberals and Democrats), that Bernie represents!

Pardon him for not just STFU when he perceives this process being corrupt to favor corporate candidates, the same way that the League of Women Voters objected to the two parties manipulating their administration of the debates back in 1988 too.

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Bernie is a second class candidate. How dare he besmirch the Pure Democratic Primary, [View all] cali Jun 2015 OP

Hey, if a pro-war, pro-Wall Street, pro-fracking, pro-TPP, pro-H1B Visas woman can be a Democrat ... Scuba Jun 2015 #1

Great point. jwirr Jun 2015 #21

That says it all. azmom Jun 2015 #83

Bravo. hifiguy Jun 2015 #97

Ouch Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #107

Harsh? Perhaps. Honest and accurate? Absolutely. Scuba Jun 2015 #122

Sadly, I couldn't contest it even if I wanted. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #131

+1 LWolf Jun 2015 #127

B-i-n-g-o! yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #150

Bernie Sanders is demantling the system. INdemo Jun 2015 #151

Perfecto summation Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #168

I like Bernie BUT.... Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #2

Won't join the party, but perfectly happy to complain about its rules Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #3

They are doing it all wrong. Should he lie? I know we are getting used to politicians lying sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #11

Bernie speakin truth to power! Love it! Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #32

He didn't blow their doors down. MuseRider Jun 2015 #61

Won't Join the Party? huh? Did I miss something? 2banon Jun 2015 #71

I don't think he did. There's no mechanism in VT to register for a party. hughee99 Jun 2015 #115

How would he "join the party"? Migrate to Connecticut? Texas? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #98

So the party would RATHER have him just run in the general election instead... cascadiance Jun 2015 #102

Still complaining because your favorite candidate doesn't have 30 years worth of relationship... MohRokTah Jun 2015 #4

actually he does have. And I'm not complaining, just mocking dumb hypocrisy cali Jun 2015 #5

+1 deutsey Jun 2015 #7

No, he really doesn't. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #8

links? oh and bullshit. cali Jun 2015 #9

There are no links required. It stands on its face. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #12

That's hilarious. Bernie is a co-founder, first Chairman and currently the only Senate member of Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #138

He is actually correct about this fact. ieoeja Jun 2015 #64

This. n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #80

well said U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #132

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Jun 2015 #134

+1 appalachiablue Jun 2015 #152

Bernie Sanders, one of the most successful and available politicians ever... bvar22 Jun 2015 #95

In Vermont. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #96

So you're saying that because he hasn't done something before, he'd necessarily be inept at it? hughee99 Jun 2015 #118

Absolutely. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #119

Hillary's never been president before... hughee99 Jun 2015 #125

2008? MohRokTah Jun 2015 #126

She was president in 2008? hughee99 Jun 2015 #129

This is about the country and the people. Why are YOU so worried about the 'party'? sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #13

YOU ARE WRONG! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #15

No, YOU ARE WRONG! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #20

HA! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #22

"interlopers and outsiders" G_j Jun 2015 #28

What's best for the country is what's best for the Democratic Party. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #30

You are getting tiresome and not making friends for your candidate. Bohunk68 Jun 2015 #63

Truth hurts eh? eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #65

Truth about you, or truth about Bernie running?... cascadiance Jun 2015 #162

MohRakTah is the penultimate Party Insider� Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #73

I find it interesting that you go around this site, and insist on trying to demean and insult. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #120

Poster has left the building. zappaman Jun 2015 #170

What's best for the country bvar22 Jun 2015 #103

You must hate the Democratic Party. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #105

People have tried to equate Party with Country for several thousand years. bvar22 Jun 2015 #108

Suffice it to say, we disagree. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #109

You do NOT believe that the Democratic Party has turned hard right since 1992? bvar22 Jun 2015 #113

No. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #114

Sanders is the most inspiring, clean and true Democrat I've seen in 20 years. And I've been around appalachiablue Jun 2015 #155

Sanders is not a Democrat. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #156

He is to me and many others. He's a Democratic Candidate now. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #157

He is still not a Democrat. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #158

Would you vote for him if he wins the primary? cascadiance Jun 2015 #164

Sanders will not win the nomination. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #166

Does it feel good to be as confident as this guy? cascadiance Jun 2015 #167

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #172

Sanders doesn't have the formal association but his values and principles are more representative appalachiablue Jun 2015 #165

And neither are the Koch brothers! cascadiance Jun 2015 #163

"best for the party" ??? Excuse me while I decide to vote for what is best for the country. And, oh Hiraeth Jun 2015 #38

Isn't the Party hootinholler Jun 2015 #39

LOL Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #47

Thank you for clarifying your position. You're clear as a bell. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #69

You're welcome. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #70

Therein lies the difference. 2banon Jun 2015 #72

Then why aren't you at People'sPartyUnderground.com? eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #74

link? 2banon Jun 2015 #76

You're the one talking about being about people. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #77

No. This site IS "for people", bvar22 Jun 2015 #104

As I understand it clearly, Bernie is a qualified candidate for the Democratic nomination. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #124

LOL! Try reading your post back to yourself out loud .. 2banon Jun 2015 #130

And that is the attitude that has led us into the cul-de-sac hifiguy Jun 2015 #99

RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!! frylock Jun 2015 #159

So, they hand out top committee assignments to any random person? jeff47 Jun 2015 #29

That was the price for his support and votes. hack89 Jun 2015 #31

Yes, but can you link to Clinton doing the same in 2014? jeff47 Jun 2015 #41

Why are we starting at 2014? hack89 Jun 2015 #51

Because Clinton was SoS in 2012 and 2010, so she didn't campaign. jeff47 Jun 2015 #52

If you can show me Bernie fundraising nationally for decades for Dems hack89 Jun 2015 #55

Fundraising is done through their non-profit org jeff47 Jun 2015 #62

No. I think that relationships between candidates and party power brokers and fund raisers hack89 Jun 2015 #66

Elizabeth Warren certainly campaigned for Merkley here... cascadiance Jun 2015 #81

Be careful on that high horse of yours...the fall won't be fun. n/t Avalux Jun 2015 #101

Well, only in the sense that he has no chance of winning. DanTex Jun 2015 #6

Bernie IS going to win. Funny to watch the change in attitude towards him here. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #14

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #16

No he wasn't Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #110

I see zero different. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #111

well there ya go.... eom Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #112

Do you see a difference yet? Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #135

Nope, no difference. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #137

fringe fanatics Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #139

No polling to back up the Sanders claims either. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #142

. Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #146

Like I said, no polling to back up the claims. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #147

You deny that there is any possibility that he can win Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #148

See a difference yet? Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #149

He's starting to get more like Dean MohRokTah Jun 2015 #154

I haven't seen much change in attitude. DanTex Jun 2015 #19

They can laugh all they want sabrina...Bernie will get the last laugh. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #37

And Sanders has MORE MONEY now than Obama did at the same time of his campaign in 2007 cascadiance Jun 2015 #82

LOVE IT!! Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #133

Translation: FSogol Jun 2015 #10

1972 1939 Jun 2015 #17

Didn't happen in 2008 when upstart Obama won against the establishment candidate. FSogol Jun 2015 #18

Obama wasn't the "upstart" MohRokTah Jun 2015 #23

Not true. He had to overcome thoughts of "an African American cannot get elected." FSogol Jun 2015 #25

No no no no. It's centrist history time. jeff47 Jun 2015 #44

Everyone forgets (intentionally or not) how close the race between HRC & Obama really was. FSogol Jun 2015 #48

Kucinich pulled out on January 24th and Edwards a few days LATER... cascadiance Jun 2015 #84

Nah, it became apparent by January that it was Obama or HRC. Dropping out is was the only FSogol Jun 2015 #86

But had Edwards pulled out a lot earlier, when his personal problems likely surfaced... cascadiance Jun 2015 #87

Kucinich had no chance of winning. Edwards voters went to HRC and Obama. FSogol Jun 2015 #88

Kucinich was NO LONGER RUNNING when Edwards voters "went to HRC or Obama"... cascadiance Jun 2015 #90

Sorry, but I'll never agree with your analysis. Edwards and Kucinich had no chance. No tin foily FSogol Jun 2015 #93

Dem stalwart Joe Biden was the guy who MADem Jun 2015 #56

So can I because most third way democrats do not even begin to understand how bad it is down jwirr Jun 2015 #24

First, try looking at 4 years before that, when the party establishment overruled the true believers jeff47 Jun 2015 #35

McGovern lost for a number of reasons Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #49

Blame a 49 state to 2 state loss on dirty tricks? NT 1939 Jun 2015 #67

Did you not read my other reasons? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #68

About those 1939 Jun 2015 #78

Don't forget the Ed Muskie fiasco ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #106

How about inserting the obligatory "Nobody has said Bernie isn't welcome as a candidate" brooklynite Jun 2015 #26

Bernie Sanders got into the race understanding his disadvantages. His supporters, notsomuch. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #34

+1 LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #58

I finding it surprising that Sander's fans here don't discuss his specific accomplishments FSogol Jun 2015 #50

In the last congress Mnpaul Jun 2015 #140

Thank you. That's the kind of info his supporters should post in lieu of FSogol Jun 2015 #141

Bernie stated he would follow the rules of the DNC, perhaps he did not speak for others. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #27

The rules when he entered, or the changes the DNC just passed? jeff47 Jun 2015 #36

I guess you need to ask him this question, I would have assumed he would be true to his word and Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #40

The problem is the supposedly impartial DNC is changing the rules to benefit one candidate jeff47 Jun 2015 #42

Apparently you are opposed to asking Bernie what he meant. Do you think Bernie isn't capable of Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #45

Nope. I'm opposed to the DNC deciding what everyone else must do. jeff47 Jun 2015 #53

I think they would rather Bernie leave and run as an independent in the general... cascadiance Jun 2015 #85

It was Koch money that founded the DLC. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #153

Oh FFS Action_Patrol Jun 2015 #33

how dare he speak from his heart olddots Jun 2015 #43

He must have spoke from his heart when he said he would follow the rules also, huh. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #46

Extra overwrought this week LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #54

I just saw his photo on the home page of the DNC's website. MineralMan Jun 2015 #57

Cool ... our hourly "Bernie is being persecuted" thread, right on time!!! JoePhilly Jun 2015 #59

If Bernie is not the nominee, then what is the plan Purrfessor Jun 2015 #60

He has every right to make any request he wishes. But his followers pnwmom Jun 2015 #75

hahaha Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #79

I guess the League of Women Voters were similarly "JERKS" when they objected to party manipulation.. cascadiance Jun 2015 #89

Do you think Bernie would approve of your posts here at DU? Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #92

Was Hillary a "real" New Yorker Madam Mossfern Jun 2015 #94

I put REAL Democrats on the same shelf as REAL Men and REAL Women. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #100

don't forget Real Christians. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Jun 2015 #117

Party politics is hardball. That's a fact. Pretending it doesn't exist, or doesn't make KittyWampus Jun 2015 #121

Thanks. Without your daily reminders nobody would know just how persecuted Bernie is. great white snark Jun 2015 #123

Great handle Fumesucker Jun 2015 #128

"second class" - No wonder Occupy supports and endorces him. L0oniX Jun 2015 #136

Please, do tell us how Sanders supporters are persecuted here. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #143

Another attack on Democrats and the Democratic party. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #144

? bettyellen Jun 2015 #145

And he should be able to demand anything he wants and the Democratic party pnwmom Jun 2015 #160

cali! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #161

She is. zappaman Jun 2015 #169

So it is. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #171