Will you fight the Fast Track of the TPP and TSA? Will DU?

[NanceGreggs]

147. I don't know how you could think ...

... that "I made your point for you".

My point was that you haven't seen the entire agreement, nor do you know if what you are applying your "common sense " to is even part of the final agreement.

"The purpose of the fast track is to give permission for it to be finalized. Why would we do that without knowing what's in it?" What is in it WILL be known at least sixty days before it can be signed.

Fast-tracking means a yes or no vote - because if it didn't, the treaty would be open to debate literally forever and would have no chance of ever being implemented. Such a "debate" would mean that every comma, every word, every term would be argued and re-argued until the end of time.

International trade agreements have always been negotiated in secret. Whether you like it or not, THIS is the way it's always been done. It is not up to Obama, or anyone else, to disclose what 12 nations have agreed to keep behind closed doors as part of the negotiation process.

Of course corporations have input. You don't negotiate treaties that involve corporations without their input - any more than you would negotiate building a bridge between two countries without the input of civil engineers. Expertise in many fields is required. Negotiating teams from the various countries include such expertise, such as advice from international tax experts who assess things like duties on goods that will be enforced or waived, etc.

Of course no one on DU has declared themselves "an expert". They just rant on and on about what they KNOW to be facts without anything concrete to support those "facts".

"President Obama is not trust worthy in this IMHO. Especially after his snide comments about Elizabeth Warren."

So now we get to the crux of the matter. Obama said something about Warren that you don't like - ergo, he is not "trustworthy" when it comes to negotiating trade agreements. Got it.