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cui bono

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99. So we should just let a president do whatever s/he wants as long as they have a D?

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:20 PM

Jun 2015

Nothing could be worse for democracy. In fact nothing could be further from it.

Democracy is about being governed by consent of the people. What are we consenting to if we are not allowed to see it?

And by the way, criticism is not bashing. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's something other than what it is, legitimate criticism.

The fact that you are more concerned about legitimate criticism of our govt than you are about the demise of our democracy is a sad, sad state of affairs and should cause you to take a cold hard look inside yourself. Because you are doing nothing but enabling authoritarianism.

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Hey suckers, we put the full text of the #TPP online for you to read. [View all] kpete Jun 2015 OP

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #1

Excellent! deutsey Jun 2015 #2

kick . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2015 #3

That was totally Brillant kpete----------BRILLANT turbinetree Jun 2015 #4

K&R!!! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #5

Excellent! nt valerief Jun 2015 #6

That Was Great Leith Jun 2015 #7

Perfect MissDeeds Jun 2015 #8

K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #9

K & R R R R R R R Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #10

K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #11

That website pretty much says it all. K & R mountain grammy Jun 2015 #12

Fox, Drudge or WND could not have done better in the ongoing anti-Obama TPP propaganda, or the lame name-calling. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #13

Yep, it is DU at it's most pathetic. It is nothing short of embarrassing. tridim Jun 2015 #15

"Embarrassing" takes a back seat to getting some Recs. based on name calling. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #25

Because Obama bashing. tridim Jun 2015 #38

Challenging Obama on his support for the TPP is not bashing but being a good Democrat. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #68

I see no reason not to bash sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #86

Your post was alerted on LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #94

Thanks. tridim Jun 2015 #120

So we should just let a president do whatever s/he wants as long as they have a D? cui bono Jun 2015 #99

What name calling? What bashing? cui bono Jun 2015 #100

Ummm, they are promoting this monstrosity as are all the republican establishment in washington. Dragonfli Jun 2015 #17

Of course we are pro-labor; kindly look at the pro-labor Obama E.O.'s lately, and the newly muscular NLRB. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #21

Yes indeed a very large portion of people have now given up trying to find work, I guess that is Dragonfli Jun 2015 #95

This thing will pass (if at all) on the strength of REPUBLICAN votes. Truth hurts, eh? nt Romulox Jun 2015 #18

Christ on a crutch, are you SERIOUS?!!? gregcrawford Jun 2015 #19

Actually, Fox is a huge TPP cheerleader....... marmar Jun 2015 #22

I detest Fox as much as the next guy, but you exaggerate the meaning of Fox's position. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #23

Come on, look at the President's chief allies on this issue..... marmar Jun 2015 #26

The Presidents chief allies are other Democrats.... Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #28

............... marmar Jun 2015 #30

JC. Supporting free trade is not the same as supporting the TPA/TPP. Quit making shit up. n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #32

Please direct all "making shit up" arguments to The New Republic. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #34

Why? You did it here. Dawgs Jun 2015 #42

When the truth is inconvenient, all they have is making shit up. Jakes Progress Jun 2015 #87

Republicans were 52 to 0 in favor, with 2 abstentions; and Democrats were 13 to 31 against G_j Jun 2015 #29

Bah! Who needs facts? HERVEPA Jun 2015 #52

exactly!!! G_j Jun 2015 #24

Do you trust Obama's judgement? Because I sure as hell don't. Nor do I trust the judgement of Erose999 Jun 2015 #33

Yes, I do trust Obama's judgment...on this also because his judgment has been generally most excellent. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #36

The fact that you even asked that question is so telling. tridim Jun 2015 #39

so the person you responded to G_j Jun 2015 #43

Why don't you go bash Democrats somewhere else? Jakes Progress Jun 2015 #88

The good old dull and boring "blind follower" blind generality accusation. I trust Obama because he earned my trust. Period. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #102

Old, dull, boring. Maybe true. Jakes Progress Jun 2015 #123

The contents of the TPP now equals anti-TPP propaganda. Thank you for AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #37

Did you go to the website? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #48

I did not. Caught me. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #50

Asking for the TPP to be made public is NOT a bad thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #55

Well, we did see drafts of A21 but AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #58

I get that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #61

No, I've not been in a union. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #63

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #72

Interesting. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #109

I am a Union Steward druidity33 Jun 2015 #105

I can appreciate this. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #106

Let's see Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #40

Funny how they imply anti-TPP is a republican-like position, isn't it? It's opposite day! arcane1 Jun 2015 #45

That brings up another point, although irrelevant as to whether or not we should trust Obama Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #54

i heard michael savage crapping on the TPP. don't certainot Jun 2015 #115

Don't you get it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #47

Other than someone taking a shit nolabels Jun 2015 #53

Are you a part of a labor union? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #56

But the members get to vote on a new contract Go Vols Jun 2015 #67

I'm part of a union SMART-TD formerly UTU. Last year, our union heads negotiated in SECRET neverforget Jun 2015 #80

Just like the TPP can be voted down. Right? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #83

Our contract was not up for renegotiation when they did this. They did this without telling the neverforget Jun 2015 #90

I understand that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #93

Teamsters Local #495 nolabels Jun 2015 #116

Yep ... that's exactly how the TPP is being negotiated ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #121

LOL, nice try, make believe is fun! nt Logical Jun 2015 #57

Propaganda lark Jun 2015 #75

We're not republicans wysi Jun 2015 #101

Dupe. tridim Jun 2015 #14

Right here in this thread is the claim that Obama has read it. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #46

President Obama has read the LASTEST DRAFT ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #49

Yeah, that's not the claim that was made now was it? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #70

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #73

Personally, I'd find that to be implausible as well. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #76

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #79

This goalpost needs its own high-speed rail system. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #81

It's not about "goal post moving"; but, rather, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #82

There is no final agreed upon deal. Nobody has read it. tridim Jun 2015 #92

See post #13, paragraph 2. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #96

. ctsnowman Jun 2015 #16

What an important moment. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #20

If it weren't true, it'd be too funny! Lifelong Protester Jun 2015 #27

K&R � seven billion olddots Jun 2015 #31

I love it! knr joeybee12 Jun 2015 #35

KKKKKK&&&&RRRRRR! Segami Jun 2015 #41

kpete, you are Duval Jun 2015 #44

not-a-genius kpete Jun 2015 #59

Got to hand it to you, kpete... Octafish Jun 2015 #51

Lol! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #60

Hahaa i fell for it 840high Jun 2015 #62

Brilliant! LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #64

Done libodem Jun 2015 #65

Very (sadly) funny FlyByNight Jun 2015 #66

Something appears to be wrong with my mouse :) Helen Borg Jun 2015 #69

kick Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #71

I would be willing to bet when it is put it online, and it will be. Egnever Jun 2015 #74

That is just fucking hilarious! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #77

K&R! Perfect! n/t Michigan-Arizona Jun 2015 #78

No RickRoll? Darn. spooky3 Jun 2015 #84

But seriously, wouldn't it be great if Anonymous could do this? Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #85

K & R AzDar Jun 2015 #89

I just stuck it on Facebook. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #91

Driving the point home, perfectly. The defenders of the 1% will have a fit! countryjake Jun 2015 #97

read up, TPP pimps Skittles Jun 2015 #98

Resistance to TPP could be a springboard to progressive success in the elections 2016. marble falls Jun 2015 #103

An email I recently sent. WoodyM90 Jun 2015 #104

Hey, Woody Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #117

would you consider posting this as its own op so we can rec it? niyad Jun 2015 #122

Luv it! DrBulldog Jun 2015 #107

that is funny. scary true, but funny. I realized that, whenever I see tpp, I read "toilet paper" niyad Jun 2015 #108

Heh heh Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #118

I really thought I was going to actually read this doc. midnight Jun 2015 #110

Triple REC!!! MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #111

Brilliant! I'm usually not one to fall for this kind of "prank" but that was great! Thanks! :D C Moon Jun 2015 #112

Worthy of the Daily Show at least. mikehiggins Jun 2015 #113

Chuckles cantbeserious Jun 2015 #114

Had me goin' there for a second, � n/t CRH Jun 2015 #119