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Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:49 PM

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I don't think Bernie is in a good position to make demands of the DNC when it comes to the debates [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 OP

They still wouldn't give him the time of day. He's not a corporate stooge. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #1

Oy, as a Bernie fan who would support Hillary if she is nominated, I wonder how comments randys1 Jun 2015 #2

Thank You. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #50

Actually, it isn't. ozone_man Jun 2015 #118

Oh ffs. Blablabla Suggest You take a hint from Randys1 who I responded to. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #125

... Scuba Jun 2015 #138

He scares them RobertEarl Jun 2015 #119

Is Bernie running as a Democrat against the rules? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #3

Not against the rules but he is not a Democrat. leftofcool Jun 2015 #8

what part of the DNC has recognized him as a legitimate candidate and welcomed cali Jun 2015 #77

He's being treated the same way as everyone else. His photo is right beside Hillary's pnwmom Jun 2015 #28

The DNC chair publicly called Bernie 'crazy', & DNC finance chair held Hillary fundraiser which is peacebird Jun 2015 #41

Those actions were wrong. Thank you for being specific. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #59

:) peacebird Jun 2015 #70

no, DSW did not call him crazy. cali Jun 2015 #78

That was Boyd Brown, a DNC member from South Carolina Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #133

My bad, DNC Boyd Brown from SC (called on of the chairs in an article, not head honcho) peacebird Jun 2015 #134

when did Debbie Wasserman Schultz call him crazy dlwickham Jun 2015 #92

As I said above, my bad, member Boyd Brown said it She has REFUSED to come Against his commennt peacebird Jun 2015 #136

He should get his co-challengers to torpedo the exclusionary clause BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #4

But that would make him look like he lied and I know he will be true to his word. leftofcool Jun 2015 #10

He has asked for more debates and I think he's right BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #36

Then he should throw caution to the wind and strike out on his own. leftofcool Jun 2015 #42

gee.here's an idea the DNC shouldn't emulate asswipe repukes cali Jun 2015 #79

This drew an alert from... someone GummyBearz Jun 2015 #95

He has said he would abide by the DNC rules running as a Democrat candidate, then this are the rules Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #5

you mean the brand new never done before rules to benefit Hillary cali Jun 2015 #81

Or the DNC could become like the GOP, if Bernie can't make his points in 6 then 16 isn't going to Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #113

Yes, but HassleCat Jun 2015 #6

Ssdd PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #7

but what has that to do with making demands of the DNC? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #44

because they have officially welcomed him to the race as a legitimate contender. duh cali Jun 2015 #82

The exclusion rule has been sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #9

Obama will support Hillary and you may be correct about an "agreement." leftofcool Jun 2015 #12

Okay then sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #19

He should be in the first 3 debates, then break the DNC rules and have his own debates on the side Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #11

That would cinch the primary for Hillary and make Bernie look like a liar. leftofcool Jun 2015 #13

I say we put that to the test, and see which side voters choose Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #14

Perhaps you could email Senator Sanders and ask him to debate Rand Paul? leftofcool Jun 2015 #16

That would be the end of his primary run. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #23

Yep! leftofcool Jun 2015 #27

No way that would make him an instant American hero Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #30

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #31

Thanks for the well thought out rebuttal Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #34

There was no need to rebut. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #46

To be fair mythology Jun 2015 #87

First they ignore him AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #147

Just like President Kucinich? MohRokTah Jun 2015 #149

That was profound AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #151

I know. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #152

You are scared of him AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #155

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #156

Then for his supporters sake, maybe he will do just that. leftofcool Jun 2015 #43

Or it would make Rand more popular? n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #175

To the GOP? Do we need the TP vote? If he wants to talk to Rand (R-RTW, personhood) he can do it. freshwest Jun 2015 #176

Ok I guess you didn't like that idea... Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #177

Most Democrats, POC, LGBT and workers despise the Pauls. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #178

He is obviously counting on party finances to support his efforts... Historic NY Jun 2015 #52

No he's running for the Democratic nomination. It's the debate rules I would say he should break. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #53

If he runs contrary to the party debate rules then he is running as an independant.... Historic NY Jun 2015 #68

lol. bullshit cali Jun 2015 #84

Sorry you misunderstand the definitions of words... Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #98

He has stated emphatically that he will not run as an Independent: freshwest Jun 2015 #142

The party is twisting the debate rules to avoid him AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #148

No. okasha Jun 2015 #183

Why Rand Paul? That fool has no chance of winning anything and only FSogol Jun 2015 #83

Ha yeah Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #99

Bernie would do better to take questions from college students and not waste his FSogol Jun 2015 #100

Agreed. We need to engage all sides. nt freshwest Jun 2015 #143

Much better. freshwest Jun 2015 #179

Which campaign did that in 2012 after being shut down in 2008? n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #174

Demands? It sounded more like he was spit-balling an idea and a good one... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #15

It makes you wonder why he is running as a Democrat Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #17

I think he should do just that and stay out of the Party. leftofcool Jun 2015 #22

I bet you do . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #35

So, you would rather have a Republican win and just have the satisfaction cascadiance Jun 2015 #66

ding ding ding.disgusting, isn't it? cali Jun 2015 #89

not very smart of you. cali Jun 2015 #88

That is because he is right on every issue AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #150

It's the only way to have a chance of actually winning Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #26

I thought Senator Sanders was a strong candidate yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #85

Same thing would happen if Hillary Clinton ran as an independent too... cascadiance Jun 2015 #93

It's called the "Two Party System" AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #130

Because the Koch brothers would swoop him up with $$$$$ or orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #38

No, it doesn't. He caucuses and votes with Democrats. n/t Avalux Jun 2015 #55

if he had run as an indie hill wouldn't have a snowball's chance. cali Jun 2015 #86

Because Bernies supporters are Democrats in name only? LuvLoogie Jun 2015 #128

Bernie fans covet the struggle LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #167

The debate rules were adopted after (and probably because) he announced his candidacy tularetom Jun 2015 #102

Yes, I agree. TM99 Jun 2015 #127

You wouldn't wonder that if you had actually read anything about this issue. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #184

More debates are meaningless. In fact I would argue most people who watch any debates still_one Jun 2015 #18

Bernie's trying to change that Enrique Jun 2015 #25

He can't force people to watch the debates, and I suspect those that do watch the debates, the still_one Jun 2015 #60

The debates are fake? Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #65

No, I just don't think in most cases they significantly change the results of an election, because still_one Jun 2015 #110

If you don't want to be bored with where people stand, orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #48

and who do you think most voters are? Most people who watch the debates have still_one Jun 2015 #62

I'm sorry, where's the rule that you must be strapped to a chair and forced to watch every debate? jeff47 Jun 2015 #104

You are not understanding my comment. I am arguing that except for political junkies most people still_one Jun 2015 #111

So? They aren't the DNC's debates. The DNC doesn't care if no one watches. jeff47 Jun 2015 #112

Sure, but if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it does it make a sound? still_one Jun 2015 #114

Why does it matter? jeff47 Jun 2015 #116

Isn't that a waste of the candidates time and resources that could be spent elsewhere? still_one Jun 2015 #123

So's a speech where no one shows up. jeff47 Jun 2015 #124

Of course not. That is not the point. The candidates should debate in more fora precisely because morningfog Jun 2015 #121

C'mon-- you like their position because it benefits your candidate. Marr Jun 2015 #20

I thought it was up to each candidate to make themselves known, not the DNC. leftofcool Jun 2015 #24

You know, playing dumb like that really isn't cute or clever. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #32

I don't usually respond to personal attacks but........... leftofcool Jun 2015 #47

That wasn't a personal attack. Marr Jun 2015 #57

I don't do "hides" or "reports to juries." leftofcool Jun 2015 #63

Then he'd be cut out of the big DNC debates, as per the exclusivity rule. Marr Jun 2015 #64

It isn't. The DNC does not have to get involved with any other debates. jeff47 Jun 2015 #105

We could actually see Hillary begging for more debates... Oilwellian Jun 2015 #160

He hasn't paid his dues with interparty networking, either. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #21

They should have to Explain their reasoning on debates, and where the $$$$$$ Goes . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #33

????????????????????? MohRokTah Jun 2015 #45

Yeah MFrohike Jun 2015 #73

idiotic cali Jun 2015 #90

Is that to me? MFrohike Jun 2015 #97

Not in interparty politics he doesn't. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #132

I love it MFrohike Jun 2015 #173

He's been caucusing with the Democrats since the day he entered the house. JeffHead Jun 2015 #94

That doesn't matter a whit. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #131

This post is quite an achievement in cluelessness. jeff47 Jun 2015 #106

You don't count his being the sole Senator in the Democratic Party's CPC as networking? freshwest Jun 2015 #144

Nope. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #146

True... That is why he chose to run as a Democrat and not Independent. We may be at cross purposes freshwest Jun 2015 #161

Nope, it will remain at 6. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #162

Six seems sufficient if the moderators are good and don't try to talk over them. I felt they were freshwest Jun 2015 #164

So the merits of a new debate rule matter nothing, and all that matters is schmoozing? (n/t) Jim Lane Jun 2015 #185

When has asking become demanding? Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #29

as was pointed out earlier, more debates-free publicity Sheepshank Jun 2015 #37

Exactly !! some people see it as getting to explain their postions, orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #58

Something tells me he did not MuseRider Jun 2015 #39

Bernie has caucused with the democrats always! They have been able to rely on him. TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #40

And in exchange they've given him committee assignments Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #51

overall Bernie has been a better dem than the majority of dems cali Jun 2015 #91

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #169

Kinda like calling for someone to primary the POTUS in 2012. Stay in your lane Bernie. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #49

DNC proves itself un-Democratic. Octafish Jun 2015 #54

Not voting is un-democratic. LuvLoogie Jun 2015 #129

I don't care about his 'position.' He's running with DNC money. He's a member of the DemocraticCPC. freshwest Jun 2015 #56

I don't think it is the job of the DNC to back any particular onecaliberal Jun 2015 #61

I agree padfun Jun 2015 #72

The DNC should not show any favoritism imo. nt Rex Jun 2015 #67

It has nothing to do with a 'D" beside his name. The DNC welcomed him to the primary and said it is Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #69

The problem is the DNC hasn't bothered to explain why the rules were changed. jeff47 Jun 2015 #108

I do agree that their reasoning should be explained. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #122

In Vermont, like here in Washington, he's a (D) if he's running as one. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #71

your 2 cents mean nothing. get a clue. cali Jun 2015 #74

You seem angry. Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #75

Wow, what a failed post. Projecting much? nt Logical Jun 2015 #76

The DNC has already decided who the nominee will be. If Hillary doesn't want debates, there Doctor_J Jun 2015 #80

He's running as a Democrat so as to not be a spoiler. You're welcome. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #96

you can see... quickesst Jun 2015 #101

Yes, it is entirely appropriate for the party to change the rules to benefit one candidate. jeff47 Jun 2015 #109

I suppose... quickesst Jun 2015 #137

Yes, he's so independent the Democrats in the Senate put him in charge of the buget committee. jeff47 Jun 2015 #141

ok... quickesst Jun 2015 #158

The D is already there. jeff47 Jun 2015 #159

uh... quickesst Jun 2015 #170

Ah yes, time to throw out a personal attack then run away. jeff47 Jun 2015 #171

done with that post... quickesst Jun 2015 #181

Oh no!! Not done with me?!! I'm so terrified. jeff47 Jun 2015 #187

Sanders isn't asking for a change. The DNC is. jeff47 Jun 2015 #103

From what I read on DU he did not demand - he wrote a letter suggesting added debates. jwirr Jun 2015 #107

Yeah, but phrasing it that way is nowhere near as like to antagonize people. n/t QC Jun 2015 #120

Exactly. jwirr Jun 2015 #140

It's fairly SOP for the front runner to want fewer debates, the underdog to want more. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #115

To be blunt, everyone knows these debates are a formality. tritsofme Jun 2015 #117

That's strange.... daleanime Jun 2015 #126

Links to DNC members behaving inappropriately, forgetting to pretend impartiality peacebird Jun 2015 #135

Hillary Clinton cannot debate honestly with Bernie Sanders. 99Forever Jun 2015 #139

Then six debates should be quite adequate. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #145

She can run, but she can't hide forever. 99Forever Jun 2015 #153

Yeah, that's what I do. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #154

As far as issues important to me... 99Forever Jun 2015 #163

Sanders is getting more milage out of this than if there were ten unwached debates. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #157

Seems more of a request and much less than a demand LanternWaste Jun 2015 #165

Maybe he should just cut to the chase and put a "C" behind his name. polichick Jun 2015 #166

Bernie Sandersc? Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #168

The "C" most valued by the DNC stands for Corporatist. polichick Jun 2015 #172

You said it Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #182

F*ck the DNC and f*ck the corporatocracy. mmonk Jun 2015 #180

This hubbub over Sanders's party affiliation is a red herring. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #186