General Discussion

drray23

(8,803 posts)

27. this question of dual citizenship borders on xenophobia

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:44 AM

Jun 2015

I hold dual-citizenship ( french/american) and I find it insulting to imply that my citizenship if of a lesser kind. When you take that oath you are a full fledged citizen. period. Worries about were loyalties may lie are over the top. There is a better case to be made when it comes to that. I mean,most of our elected officials were born here and yet many of them are sold out to powerful lobbies. How is that for loyalty to the country ?

The only exception is in the constitution and it pertains to running/being the president. For everything else it should not matter.

Of course none of that is even relevant in the case of senator Sanders since he was born here.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

67 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Dual Citizenship. [View all] nitpicker Jun 2015 OP

Actually, I DON'T see why Rehm thought reports of Sanders being a dual citizen were true. DFW Jun 2015 #1

Damn straight! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #2

Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #3

So what? She admitted it was wrong so... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #4

Fight the swift boaters head on Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #5

+1 beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #7

Diane is not a swift boater. pangaia Jun 2015 #36

Naw Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #39

I listened to a show of hers several years ago, can't remember now who was being interviewed.. 2banon Jun 2015 #46

That may be your opinion but she was using a known rw rag as proof of her idiotic statement. Take jwirr Jun 2015 #45

+1 DrDan Jun 2015 #13

she said she was wrong to assert it and that she should have put it in cali Jun 2015 #26

She wouldn't be the first media person to fall for phony Internet stories . . . MrModerate Jun 2015 #6

You're right, not by a long shot DFW Jun 2015 #8

She's a regular on the inside-the-beltway cocktail circuit deutsey Jun 2015 #31

There's a third possibility DFW Jun 2015 #51

Yeah, I thought that too about the researchers deutsey Jun 2015 #52

I was sorta both DFW Jun 2015 #53

I'd be willing to bet you're right deutsey Jun 2015 #56

I only heard about it today, too. DFW Jun 2015 #58

I have listened to her for years. pangaia Jun 2015 #37

It wasn't even "reports"! SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #12

I agree. It would be a big deal to me if Sanders WAS a dual citizen.... Adrahil Jun 2015 #24

Why would that be a big deal? oberliner Jun 2015 #40

any presidential candidate with a dual citizenship not a big deal to you? 2banon Jun 2015 #48

Because a Presidential candidate should not have competing loyaties, IMO. Adrahil Jun 2015 #67

She was confused and though FB was FactBook. L0oniX Jun 2015 #44

Well, now that I know that it's obvious Igel Jun 2015 #54

I should probably have known this but... DFW Jun 2015 #55

I/P forum = Iraeli / Palestinian Forum, I believe n/t csziggy Jun 2015 #57

OK, thanks. Makes sense enough DFW Jun 2015 #59

Even if ... BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #9

Exactly. Many good Americans have dual citizenship. DCBob Jun 2015 #10

ever hear of the Dreyfus Affair? cali Jun 2015 #14

I don;t have a problem with dual citizenship unless.... Adrahil Jun 2015 #25

exactly - just the latest ootd DrDan Jun 2015 #34

Writers/Founders of our Constitution thought it was a big deal, and so do I. . 2banon Jun 2015 #49

I don't entirely disagree. BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #65

It's funny, we would not mind asking Ted Cruz treestar Jun 2015 #11

it's not odd at all. accusing Jews of divided loyalties has a long, ugly cali Jun 2015 #15

Well, it's the same sort of thing LeftishBrit Jun 2015 #16

"Answer the question, Jew!" Bonobo Jun 2015 #17

You said in another thread that Bernie had "ties" to another country. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #18

I'd like to hear the answer to that as well, Treestar! nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #19

To what? Treestar didn't say what BMUS falsely claimed she said. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #30

He sure as hell did. Here's the quote: Bonobo Jun 2015 #33

It would be nice to have you oppose sexism as strongly as CreekDog Jun 2015 #64

well that's repugnant. saying that shit makes things clear. cali Jun 2015 #20

Oh that particular thread was VERY enlightening. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #21

Actually if we were talking about that said about a Muslim Senator... Bonobo Jun 2015 #22

No doubt. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #23

Treestar didn't say that. If you followed the link it's quite clear she does NOT say KittyWampus Jun 2015 #29

"It's not a "slur" any more than when asked of anyone else with any ties to any other country. " oberliner Jun 2015 #41

Treestar did not say what you just claimed. I went to your link to see. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #28

he said clearly that it wasn't a slur. it damn well is. cali Jun 2015 #32

Well let's just look at what they said then: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #63

yep DrDan Jun 2015 #35

Unlike Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders, Ted Cruz WAS born outside the US csziggy Jun 2015 #61

this question of dual citizenship borders on xenophobia drray23 Jun 2015 #27

Perception is reality in politics. Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #47

If there was a lengthy history of accusations of French "stabbing our country in the back" jeff47 Jun 2015 #62

Exactly. BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #66

He worked on a kibbutz for a while Recursion Jun 2015 #38

No, that's not where that rumor came from oberliner Jun 2015 #42

Of course Cruz was actually born in Calgary Canada and was an actual dual citizen. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #43

But Cruz is a bully, and bullies usually own this kind of "debate"..... Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #60

Actually, the U.S. is ambivalent about dual or multiple citizenships in peace time WilmywoodNCparalegal Jun 2015 #50