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Ilsa

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9. These stories about savants

Sun May 13, 2012, 10:30 AM

May 2012

help "normal" people feel less inclined to believe that autistic people will be in need of help due to their disability. Savants are rare.

Even if he was a math savant, that talent might be in something as narrow as addition, not understanding complex mathematical constructs. In other words, the gift might be in something virtually useless, if there is a gift at all.

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Autistic student denied graduation [View all] cynatnite May 2012 OP

This is ridiculous Drale May 2012 #1

This is why NCLB is bullshit! Odin2005 May 2012 #2

+1 My middle son is Autistic, but functioning.. SomethingFishy May 2012 #18

Good for your son! Odin2005 May 2012 #19

I have Attention Deficit Disorder...... AverageJoe90 May 2012 #3

i thought autistic people are sometimes math geniuses... dionysus May 2012 #4

Savants are the exception, not the rule in the population of people with autism. PA Democrat May 2012 #7

These stories about savants Ilsa May 2012 #9

A few are, but it's much more the exception than the rule. LeftishBrit May 2012 #15

I'm more of a walking encyclopedia. Odin2005 May 2012 #20

i've read that people with aspergers tend to do well with math, sciece, things like computer dionysus May 2012 #33

Some savants probably are really good at those things. AverageJoe90 May 2012 #36

see here; dionysus May 2012 #39

No. Odin2005 May 2012 #42

i`m rather normal and i failed freshman math in high school madrchsod May 2012 #5

Why are his teachers passing him in math class when he obviously doesn't understand the concepts?n/t Taitertots May 2012 #6

He probably has an Individualized Education Plan with Ilsa May 2012 #10

state tests in texas have modifications arely staircase May 2012 #29

If he's meeting his IEP's goals, they can't flunk him. knitter4democracy May 2012 #12

Good question. Igel May 2012 #13

And the illusion of education continues. kiva May 2012 #16

i hear ya nt arely staircase May 2012 #30

Passing a test is completely different from showing you understand what's being taught proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #22

No one is even claiming he understands what is being taught Taitertots May 2012 #23

There are many better ways to asses what he's learned. That's how. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #24

Teachers are also totally subjective and easily influenced by outside factors Taitertots May 2012 #25

That's why good teachers use multiple measures to assess progress. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #26

"Good Teachers" are still totally subjective and easily influenced Taitertots May 2012 #27

Oh so you're reading the hype the deformers are putting out. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #28

+1000 nt arely staircase May 2012 #31

Why are you derailing the discussion by accusing me of supporting "deformers"? Taitertots May 2012 #32

I'm not derailing anything. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #34

16% is directly from the OP article, supplied to them by the state of Georgia Taitertots May 2012 #41

I didn't think math deficiency was a symptom of autism? aikoaiko May 2012 #8

You can't make that assumption about autistic children. Ilsa May 2012 #11

Autism is a very variable condition LeftishBrit May 2012 #14

Good question. I guess Ilsa May 2012 #17

One more reason this testing mania needs to stop. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #21

Math is pretty clear cut; you can either do the problems or you can't. FarCenter May 2012 #35

Apparently, if you're autistic, it's not all that clear cut proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #37

If you can't remember the steps in setting up and solving the problems, you can't do math FarCenter May 2012 #38

Apparently, if you're autistic, it's not all that clear cut n/t Occulus May 2012 #40