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jeff47

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102. Do I need to link the definition of "example" for you?

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:38 PM

Jun 2015

As far as the public not being informed well that has absolutely nothing to do with the candidates themselves and much more to do with our American idol media.

Believe it or not, candidates can actually steer the interviews they take. If you'd like an example, take a look at the "dual-citizen" interview Sanders just had.

Pretending Republicans and Democrats are anywhere close to the same on the issues because you can point to something they agree on is willfully ignoring the many issues they don't.

I'll just copy-n-paste part of my last post here, since you haven't bothered to read it yet.

Yes, Democrats are better on some things. But in the broad picture, anyone without a million in the bank has lost the last 40 years. Losing slightly less makes a marginal difference, and isn't sufficient to get people to the polls anymore. There have been too many broken promises, like "retraining" after NAFTA.

But keep yelling at non-voters. Democrats have been doing it since 2000. Hasn't worked yet, but I'm sure it'll start working very soon now.

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Disappointment in Obama leads some African Americans to ask: Is voting even worth it? [View all] Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 OP

That Washington post always has the scoops! Egnever Jun 2015 #1

Its owned by Jeff Bezos from Amazon. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #5

Oh well Jeff Bezos Egnever Jun 2015 #12

I wonder when the Washington Post is going to publish an article about whites who ask the same question Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #2

I could nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #4

Yes, there are lots of people from many backgrounds who ask that question Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #10

Or it could be they are honestly pointing out the frustration from a minority nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #14

I will believe that when I see them print the headline... Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #19

Well I am far more cynical than you are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #24

But that's just a coincidence ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #21

If Bernie Sanders would win the nomination INdemo Jun 2015 #59

Bummer RobertEarl Jun 2015 #3

Feel the Bern. merrily Jun 2015 #6

Sounds like whoever the reporter talked to has no idea how politics works. Or at least.... Hekate Jun 2015 #7

Intent to demoralize noted BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #8

Yes, and many around here are only to happy to oblige corporatemediawhore's intent on just that. Cha Jun 2015 #17

Yep. treestar Jun 2015 #55

Maybe West, but most African Americans know exactly what Obama has been up against, and realize what still_one Jun 2015 #9

How's he doin?... SidDithers Jun 2015 #11

Hilarious! Welcome back Sid! Cha Jun 2015 #20

"Christian Laettner?"... SidDithers Jun 2015 #23

I don't know who that is but those people cracked me UP.. I just love that skit! Cha Jun 2015 #26

Christian Laettner was a white basketball lovemydog Jun 2015 #85

. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #62

'Have you ever seen a white person at a hotel lovemydog Jun 2015 #84

Why doesn't the WaPo ask African Americans involved in My Brother's Keeper if Obama has made CHANGE? Cha Jun 2015 #13

I think this is more about pocket book issues Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #18

I think you are correct nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #28

A photo op? LittleBlue Jun 2015 #50

Wow, that's some impressive ju-jitsu reporting frazzled Jun 2015 #15

Losing the House in 2010 killed the chance for more change. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #16

And that happened because our 2010 campaign theme jeff47 Jun 2015 #22

Emboldened by the tea party fonder by the Koch brothers Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #25

And we'll keep getting low turnout elections as long as our candidates keep disappointing voters Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #63

Then Republicans will be electeded, and those who don't vote deserve what they get. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #72

Republicans will be elected because they deliver on their promises. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #73

If they promise that, and Democrats/liberals/progresives don't vote, then they want what Republicans Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #76

And Democrats did not vote because candidates gave them nothing to vote for. jeff47 Jun 2015 #70

Completely dissagree Egnever Jun 2015 #88

We do not line up behind leaders. jeff47 Jun 2015 #91

Nonsense Egnever Jun 2015 #93

Not nonsense. Contrast is required to win. jeff47 Jun 2015 #94

More nonsense Egnever Jun 2015 #95

Yes, from you. jeff47 Jun 2015 #97

Still missing the mark Egnever Jun 2015 #98

Do I need to link the definition of "example" for you? jeff47 Jun 2015 #102

You keep claiming I am yelling at non voters Egnever Jun 2015 #103

True Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #53

/\_/\_This_/\_/\ Scuba Jun 2015 #58

No. The Republican right ALWAYS sets the agenda. delrem Jun 2015 #34

Read my post again, because you are 100% wrong about what it suggests. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #36

You say they would have. delrem Jun 2015 #37

I don't expect elected members of the party to do everything I think they should. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #40

OK. I see. n/t delrem Jun 2015 #42

Yeah wonder if they bothered to vote in midterms treestar Jun 2015 #56

I have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #74

Amen, voted in every election every two years treestar Jun 2015 #90

I also vote in all special elections. Often, in specials, turnout Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #92

It worked as they expected DJ13 Jun 2015 #27

So it is gratuitous Jun 2015 #29

Oh c'mon "... it will be hard to justify the effort of turning out and voting next year delrem Jun 2015 #30

re: How long does it take... Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #31

Yah, I heard about that. delrem Jun 2015 #35

I live in Oregon, we have no voting mess, no lines, no ID requirements, automatic registration and Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #65

And they do it in extremely targetted ways. Marr Jun 2015 #68

People are sooo weird sitting out the local and pinning their hopes on on branch.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #32

I ate some cheese and now I have a stomachache. Is cheese even worth it? Thanks, Obama. betsuni Jun 2015 #33

... Number23 Jun 2015 #38

An interesting read. Thanks for posting that. Number23 Jun 2015 #39

Obama has a 84% approval rating among black folk and they find 6 folk who don't pay attention uponit7771 Jun 2015 #41

+ 100 JoePhilly Jun 2015 #77

The poll that matters is are you better off than you were ten years ago. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #80

Of course not, Bush fucked up the economies of Earth... what does that have to do with Obama? uponit7771 Jun 2015 #89

Personally, I feel President Obama tried his best akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #43

I think the major problem was that Obama ran smack into the Clinton machine. delrem Jun 2015 #44

Oh, yeah, right. The Rethugs in Congress, the ones who vowed that their only pnwmom Jun 2015 #46

Yes. I think you got it. It can't all be blamed on "The Rethugs". delrem Jun 2015 #47

Yes, it actually can be blamed on the Rethugs. They were the ones with the votes in Congress, pnwmom Jun 2015 #48

Oh ffs, yes, the "rethugs" who were the ones who stopped the Dems dead in the water, delrem Jun 2015 #49

She doesn't see enough change. She sure would have if Obama had lost to Romney pnwmom Jun 2015 #45

Yep. Bad changes. ucrdem Jun 2015 #52

If she's 23 she would have been 16 in 2008 and the voting age is 18 in Florida. FUD fail. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #51

Um, there was an election between then and now. But excellent work, otherwise! nt Romulox Jun 2015 #71

Within the article JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #54

LOL! I think once they see the awesome results of the TPP, MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #57

No - not the tpp JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #61

They could have left 'African' out of that title. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #60

One more step JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #64

Then it's rather pointless. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #66

Exactly - she isn't going to 'morph' into something new JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #67

Hell I'm white and I'm asking myself the same question. Hotler Jun 2015 #69

Ferguson proved voting is always worth it Prism Jun 2015 #75

Oh, lookey, they found the Cornel West constituency. I understand they're HUGE. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #78

Ha! lovemydog Jun 2015 #86

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #87

Not voting leads to no change BlackClouds Jun 2015 #79

^^THIS^^ BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #82

The more things change the more they stay the same davidn3600 Jun 2015 #100

They never ask the follow-up question BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #81

Good point...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #83

The solution? Vote for Bernie Sanders, the candidate for everyone but the bad guys. nt Zorra Jun 2015 #96

It seems a good choice. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #99

In all fairness, Obama has had to deal with the dumbest set politicians throughout his Presidency. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #101