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BainsBane

(57,783 posts)
73. Clinton supporters and even other Sanders supporters
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jun 2015

are insulted as Third Way, aligned with Goldman Sachs and the 1 percent--often by people far more affluent than those they insult. One person who I know is affluent insults LGBT people and poor people that way all the time. Another announced that corporations had sent women and people of color into the Democratic party to subvert it from its true mission. A number of others spent days insisting that their right to hurl misogynist insults trumps a woman's right to be treated with respect. When polls come out showing that people of color do not favor their candidate, they call them "uninformed" and "low information voters" and even target with alerts a black member who said she did not like Sanders. They have also responded to simple questions about Sanders record and accomplishments with hostility and profanity. They make clear they hold him, a politician, above the citizens he seeks to represent. The entire ethos they present is anti-egalitarian. They target not the 1 percent and corporations but ordinary Democratic voters who fail to fall inline with their orthodoxy, all while willfully and repeatedly falsifying Secretary Clinton's record.

You could say you see Clinton supporters as doing the same but that is the kind of false equivalency cable news specializes in. The numbers of Clinton supporters are few, and they do not have the numbers to even engage in that kind of behavior. The resentment of Clinton voters is that they even exist. People here are using the jury system to rid the site of the Clinton supporters that remain. They may indeed be successful with that, but it has no bearing on the election. It only makes the site even more homogeneous, which is in fact the goal of some.

I have learned a lot about who people are. They have made clear they see me and others who don't adhere to the proscribed orthodoxy as the enemy, as inferior. You cannot claim to be part of a people's movement when you target as the enemy the people.

Sanders seems to be a good man with strong values. He has asked for a positive campaign. His supporters here reject his leadership and even denounce the very argument in favor of a positive campaign as Third Way. That is why I think this has far less to do with Sanders and the election than in the efforts by some here to proclaim their own, entirely undeserved, sense of superiority over the many. All of this behavior is entirely antithetical to Sanders values, yet none of that seems to matter even a little bit to members here. That they are systematically turning people off to their candidate is entirely inconsequential to them. They promote their own goals, even as they are ad odds with Sanders.

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First proud K&R! nolabear Jun 2015 #1
fighting! snooper2 Jun 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #7
Oh look. The only female DURHAM D Jun 2015 #8
She also was active in the "Buy America" program at Walmart. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #11
Good point. DURHAM D Jun 2015 #13
Thank You for stating the obvious. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #36
Wal-Mart' s first "green" store only was built because she badgered the board until MADem Jun 2015 #49
Why don't you put the actual article text that accompanied that picture R B Garr Jun 2015 #56
The first woman to be appointed to the board of Wal-Mart. Beacool Jun 2015 #63
K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #3
"I think people know by now, I don't quit" boston bean Jun 2015 #4
Great video! K&R. Kudos for a terrific overview nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #5
Thank you for this, Skinner! leftofcool Jun 2015 #6
Thanks for sharing it here. lovemydog Jun 2015 #9
Here is a lady who has shown the ability to set aside differences she may have had in the election Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #10
DAMN!!!!! bigdarryl Jun 2015 #12
I wish it was not true but it is a talking point repeated over and over probably in a RW feeble Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #17
I swear they have a prewritten script. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #39
They also make shit up about what you or others have said. MADem Jun 2015 #51
nonsense. people like bernie better than hillary for a bunch of valid reasons. Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #44
They can love their candidate but its the spiteful words they use towards misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #50
but on the other side of things, Clinton supporters are seen the same way Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #70
Clinton supporters and even other Sanders supporters BainsBane Jun 2015 #73
Thank You. Precise analogy of what is really behind the spite we see daily, misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #77
I'm not seeing any, or hardly any, of the stuff you are describing. Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #99
I've bumped into a chicken coop. BainsBane Jun 2015 #100
heheh.. well, where I live, there are only six chickens living in the coop. Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #101
Agree, at least untill after Primaries are over. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #76
11-14 percent of the Democratic electorate likes him better BainsBane Jun 2015 #71
Let's see.. did I say I am all people? Or anything remotely resembling it? Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #72
You said "people like him better." BainsBane Jun 2015 #74
ok let us clarify: I meant the people supporting Bernie on DU. Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #98
Thanks for posting in GD. DURHAM D Jun 2015 #14
I wish more Hillary supporters would do so. Skinner Jun 2015 #16
Exactly right. onehandle Jun 2015 #20
Skinner I'm interested in your point of view re Hillary vs Bernie Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #46
I like them both. Skinner Jun 2015 #60
good pts. Thanks riversedge Jun 2015 #54
That's a mighty long ignore list BainsBane Jun 2015 #65
I am starting to see them as adorable. leftofcool Jun 2015 #84
I do see it coming.. that keeps me from reading so many posts without even using the Ignore feature. Cha Jun 2015 #97
should be a huge reception bigtree Jun 2015 #15
Great video! Lisa D Jun 2015 #18
K&R Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #19
Kick! Lisa D Jun 2015 #21
Kicked, recced and tweeted. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #22
K&R I support HRC and her 40 years fight for people like me Sheepshank Jun 2015 #23
Skinner, will you be able to make it to the launch tomorrow? TIA. freshwest Jun 2015 #24
Yes. EarlG and I are driving up to New York for it. Skinner Jun 2015 #26
Can you take pictures and make a photo thread like you did for the DNC? That was awesome. TIA. freshwest Jun 2015 #27
Yes. We also might try posting pics to Instagram in real-time Skinner Jun 2015 #29
If one doesn't instagram will they should up there? TIA. HillaryMojo a great site, BTW. I can't see freshwest Jun 2015 #37
Awesome! Thanks!! SunSeeker Jun 2015 #47
Fantastic! Following! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #57
One hell of a video Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #25
K&R!! Politicub Jun 2015 #28
Wow! KNR! JaneyVee Jun 2015 #30
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #31
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #32
Thank you for this. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #33
Oh now you've done it... SidDithers Jun 2015 #34
Testing the alert system, maybe? Just kidding. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #38
LOL. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #40
Since Skinner and EarlG are attending it tomorrow they won't ban themselves. Folks can write Elad! freshwest Jun 2015 #58
Why are you replying to yourself? Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #55
He's a lone sock, his mate was lost in the washing machine! BWAHAHA! Love both of 'em! n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #83
Wow! Rex Jun 2015 #35
It is livestreaming. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #42
Awesome, but we will make it a family get together. Rex Jun 2015 #43
That will be a great fun day then. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #48
I am excited! This is going to be a great day! Rex Jun 2015 #52
I will miss it all in real time. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #81
Have a great weekend! Rex Jun 2015 #87
I love my family... sheshe2 Jun 2015 #89
link OKNancy Jun 2015 #62
Thanks. I will check the website for details. Got an email from Hillary' Team misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #75
Thanks for sharing! Great video! K&R McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #41
DAYUM, that's GOOD!!! MADem Jun 2015 #45
Especially the part in Beijing! Changing the world! n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #85
Yep, that was quite the speech--and it's woven into the video beautifully. nt MADem Jun 2015 #91
I've only seen second hand reports of it... Not the reaction of all those women! A real egalitarian. freshwest Jun 2015 #92
Great video. Shows her riversedge Jun 2015 #53
K&R! Can't wait to watch and see your pictures, too. R B Garr Jun 2015 #59
Great video!!! Beacool Jun 2015 #61
Fantastic video BainsBane Jun 2015 #64
"Once and for all." Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #68
KICK. great white snark Jun 2015 #66
Selling her as a "fighter" only works DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #67
Hillary is a Fighter.. she doesn't need to be sold. Cha Jun 2015 #86
she will fight DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #88
Excellent! Beaverhausen Jun 2015 #69
Good video. kentuck Jun 2015 #78
K&R big time! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #79
A very well-produced video. Ron Green Jun 2015 #80
Brava Hillary~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #82
A great video okasha Jun 2015 #90
Wonderful! K&R!!! lunamagica Jun 2015 #93
Name one policy that she has successfully led and fought for in her entire career. askew Jun 2015 #94
Excellent video to support her history, Skinner, Thank you. Pic of Hillary and Pres Obama when ACA Cha Jun 2015 #95
So when will she fight against TPP? n/t eridani Jun 2015 #96
Great video George II Sep 2015 #102
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