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108. MASH will be studied one day as a contemporary record of the revolution in how women

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are treated. The original episodes were very authentic in depicting attitudes from the 50's and 60's, but by the time the series ended, the attitudes were those of the late 70's. The show lost all authenticity, but I think it was a better show.

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I'm realizing now just how badly Norman Lear's TV shows sucked during the 70's. [View all] Archae Jun 2015 OP

I think they are a lot closer to the opposite of suck myself TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #1

I couldn't agree more... Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 #4

First I ever heard of real estate "red lining" was on All in The Family Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #15

So true. 840high Jun 2015 #54

EXACTLY. Anyone who doesn't get that, doesn't understand what the "barking" was in aid of...! MADem Jun 2015 #130

I never heard of anything until I heard of them on a Norman Lear comedy... Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 #131

I agree! dballance Jun 2015 #12

Your forgetting High Chapparel, Cannon, The ATeam, Mod Squad snagglepuss Jun 2015 #2

Those were some of the worst shows on television...except for Mannix. Atman Jun 2015 #16

Mod Squad was silly ... except for the delectable Peggy Lipton who was my adolescent fantasy. PSPS Jun 2015 #29

Link? NBachers Jun 2015 #77

*SNORT* pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #78

He had such a serious face and I rarely saw him smile or laugh ailsagirl Jun 2015 #129

I liked her too ailsagirl Jun 2015 #126

Why are you realizing this now? House of Roberts Jun 2015 #3

CNN is doing a retrospective (over several shows) about the 70's. Archae Jun 2015 #6

Ah yes. House of Roberts Jun 2015 #26

In between that barking, insulting, and yelling, a lot of important issues Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #5

After a while I would get tired of it. Archae Jun 2015 #8

The message wasn't meant for you if you already understood it. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #64

His shows featured families� who often do bicker. And three of his shows featured KittyWampus Jun 2015 #7

The shows... Archae Jun 2015 #13

Don't forget Barney Miller! Chemisse Jun 2015 #30

Me too. Archae Jun 2015 #35

Mooshy Mooshy Mooshy... SidDithers Jun 2015 #42

Lucky I didnt have coffee in my mouth DiverDave Jun 2015 #100

I think Barney Miller was one of the best 70s show hands down. snagglepuss Jun 2015 #48

Barney Miller to me felt like watching a play. I really liked that. mucifer Jun 2015 #87

One of my all-time favorites!!! ailsagirl Jun 2015 #128

Perfect! cwydro Jun 2015 #92

Best WKRP episode. GGJohn Jun 2015 #109

Redd Foxx was a comedic genius. Drahthaardogs Jun 2015 #136

The MTM stuff was great. The Garry Marshall stuff was... mixed Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #22

Sweet memories for me. 840high Jun 2015 #55

Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman! bananas Jun 2015 #61

Used to come on at 11:30 pm BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #118

MASH didn't age well 6chars Jun 2015 #85

MASH will be studied one day as a contemporary record of the revolution in how women hedgehog Jun 2015 #108

The first episode was just offensive 6chars Jun 2015 #110

And that was considered a family show. As I said, the evolution of MASH is a hedgehog Jun 2015 #115

More importantly, it was first and foremost an Anti-War television show. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #134

It became much more refined over the years ailsagirl Jun 2015 #124

Your young relative doesn't have to worry about the Vietnam Lottery>>>> KittyWampus Jun 2015 #133

I will tell her 6chars Jun 2015 #138

I always thought All in the Family was an insult to working class people. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #9

It was a slam against RW bigotry Mnpaul Jun 2015 #27

It portrayed working class people as cartoon racists. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #34

It exposed the country to the fact that these people do exist Mnpaul Jun 2015 #45

It was shooting at the Nixon supporters, in whatever nook of society they occupied. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #46

It portrayed one man in that fashion Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2015 #58

Saw Norman Lear on many talk shows and found him condescending. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #60

My father too. He didn't get why it was funny. That shit saved my life! nolabear Jun 2015 #63

That's right ailsagirl Jun 2015 #73

Oh no, I loved MTM and Maude! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #10

I have to admit that MTM (the TV show) ailsagirl Jun 2015 #75

I've been watching some reruns of Andy Griffith. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #80

I love that show. nt cwydro Jun 2015 #95

Yeah, I know what you mean. DawgHouse Jun 2015 #101

Sue Ann was good ailsagirl Jun 2015 #122

You have to turn the tv down when "Good Times" is on. bluestateguy Jun 2015 #11

I liked the father on that show but hated the JJ charscter JI7 Jun 2015 #14

Same here ailsagirl Jun 2015 #125

yes.because the actor didn't like how the show was JI7 Jun 2015 #137

A shame-- I stopped watching after that n/t ailsagirl Jun 2015 #144

You accidentally posted this in GD. nt Logical Jun 2015 #17

Why shouldn't it be in GD? cwydro Jun 2015 #96

I just watched that show on CNN. Loved those shows. A lot of depth to that humor. madfloridian Jun 2015 #18

I always felt like those shows helped to change our society for the better. (eom) StevieM Jun 2015 #19

Wow... Is that ever limited thinking. onehandle Jun 2015 #20

I loved the Jeffersons marmar Jun 2015 #21

Yeah,jeez. I hardly watch tv, I always stop on the Jeffersons. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #31

Only those with the first "Lionel". brush Jun 2015 #39

I had a crush on the first Lionel Skittles Jun 2015 #49

The reason they had the replacement Lionel is an interesting bit of TV history CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #52

I didn't get your point brush Jun 2015 #57

Then Mike Evans, the guy who originally played Lionel, no longer had a job CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #59

So he came back to the show? nt brush Jun 2015 #65

You must not be remembering the show correctly. CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #81

What, No Fantasy Island? No Love Boat? What about CHIPS? notadmblnd Jun 2015 #23

And BJ And The Bear. Now that was a winner. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #69

you can't go back. most tv shows seem dated and lame after decades Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #24

Banacek! n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #25

Wow, I don't know that I've ever heard anybody say that All in the Family mythology Jun 2015 #28

+1 CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #99

.. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #32

Lou Grant dflprincess Jun 2015 #33

The hands down best TV show of the 70s was The Rockford Files. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #36

James Garner FTW Fumesucker Jun 2015 #38

YES! brush Jun 2015 #40

And the breathtaking Gretchen Corbett Doctor_J Jun 2015 #106

GREAT show. bullwinkle428 Jun 2015 #50

Yep! immoderate Jun 2015 #68

I'll watch Rockford any time. In fact, I often do on Amazon video. NBachers Jun 2015 #79

Thanks, now I have the themem song in my head all american girl Jun 2015 #88

I loved that show.. sendero Jun 2015 #94

You're right. Angel was not to be trusted . . . brush Jun 2015 #112

How could I forget? And my list also left off Monty Python's Flying Circus. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #140

I just saw 'Angel' (Stuart Margolin) in an NCIS rerun today pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #147

Every week All in the Family let us laugh at the rantings of a racist, close-minded jerk pnwmom Jun 2015 #37

Laughs DustyJoe Jun 2015 #41

Another show I just remembered... Archae Jun 2015 #43

As a late Millennial romanic Jun 2015 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #47

I'll never forget how much I laughed about Quark. closeupready Jun 2015 #51

So, nobody remembers or liked Starsky and Hutch? lunamagica Jun 2015 #53

I saw them shoot an outdoor scene near my house once pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #139

Glad to see I'm not! lunamagica Jun 2015 #141

Lear's Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman wasnt like that DJ13 Jun 2015 #56

I will watch Sanford & Son any time it's on TV Recursion Jun 2015 #62

Archie could serve today's NRA perfectly IDemo Jun 2015 #66

wow that's an amazing clip IcyPeas Jun 2015 #76

Is this a joke? choie Jun 2015 #67

That's just it. It was TV, I was sick of what was real. Archae Jun 2015 #71

When I first saw All in the Family, murielm99 Jun 2015 #70

Played by Mary Kay Place. One of my favorites who later got major roles in The Big Chill, Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #98

TV shows from past eras just don't age well, in general. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #72

Considering who was president in the '80s that should tell ya. alp227 Jun 2015 #82

I guess I never put it together with the Reagan era, but, yeah. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #84

WKRP and Taxi were good shows, BTW. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #74

All in the Family, based on Til Death Do Us Part. mwooldri Jun 2015 #83

I am polar opposite...the man was brilliant... joeybee12 Jun 2015 #86

No mention of Columbo? mucifer Jun 2015 #89

+100 narnian60 Jun 2015 #102

" . . . all people did was insult, bark and yell at each other." Vinca Jun 2015 #90

not all of 'em - I loved FERNWOOD 2-NIGHT DrDan Jun 2015 #91

Yep, I agree with you on that: raccoon Jun 2015 #93

I am a big sci-fi and comic fan edhopper Jun 2015 #97

Even Buck Rogers? Archae Jun 2015 #103

Biddy biddy biddy edhopper Jun 2015 #123

Here's Andy Kaufman doing his "imitation" of Archie Bunker: Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #104

Nobody could touch Andy. *sigh* nolabear Jun 2015 #107

Johnny & Andy - TBF Jun 2015 #113

I'm a kid of the seventies too, but I'm struck now by how crude the TV was. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #105

Norman Lear's programs broke so much new ground on many levels - LGBT characters, Maude's abortion kevinbgoode1 Jun 2015 #111

Carroll O'Connor, quite left in his worldview, skewered TBF Jun 2015 #114

All in the Family, Sanford and Son, One Day at a Time, The Jeffersons, Good Times, and Maude aikoaiko Jun 2015 #116

I agree...they all embodied important issues we were facing at the time Oilwellian Jun 2015 #117

And he recommitted to social issue TV with In The Heat of the Night. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #119

I didn't see much of All in the Family JonLP24 Jun 2015 #143

Every sitcom depends on deceit and insults. randome Jun 2015 #120

Why isn't this posted in the DU Lounge? bermudat Jun 2015 #121

gotta question your taste qazplm Jun 2015 #127

You were a kid. They were shows for grownups when most shows were for kids. Warpy Jun 2015 #132

All In The Family grew on me aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #135

I pretty much missed them all JonLP24 Jun 2015 #142

"But most of the time all people did was insult, bark and yell at each other." MoonRiver Jun 2015 #145

Buck Rogers? Battlestar Galactica? Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #146

Edith was treated like crap, that is what comes to mind first. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #148