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In reply to the discussion: Disney parks price out the middle class [View all]azurnoir
(45,850 posts)30. Really from the link you provided
Walt was accused of keeping company with rabidly antisemitic people. The German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl is the prime example. Her documentaries (primarily Nazi propaganda films) in the mid-30s had helped to glorify the Nazis. Despite the obvious nature of her work and associations. Mr. Disney did have a face to face meeting with her prior to WWII. How much time did he spend with her? How close was Walt to Riefenstahl? Long after his death she was quoted as follows-
after Kristallnacht [1938], she approached every studio in Hollywood looking for work. No studio head would even screen her movies except Walt Disney. He told her he admired her work but if it became known that he was considering hiring her, it would damage his reputation.
There were other damning accusations about Walt Disney. He was accused by senior animator Art Babbitt of a relationship with Fritz Kuhn leader of the German American Bund. Babbitt was at Disney studios from 1933-1951. Mr. Babbitt notably created one of Disneys most enduring characters Goofy. He claimed that Disney had outright sympathy for Kuhn. Babbitt made other accusations about Disney and Disneys lawyer. He claimed that they attended several German American Bund meetings. Mr Babbitt specifically stated that he had seen Walt and his attorney attend a meeting.
In the immediate years before we entered the War there was a small, but fiercely loyal, I suppose legal, following of the Nazi party . . . There were open meetings, anybody could attend and I wanted to see what was going on myself. On more than one occasion I observed Walt Disney and [Disneys lawyer] Gunther Lessing there, along with a lot of prominent Nazi-afflicted Hollywood personalities. Disney was going to meetings all the time.
Walt also had a well documented association with a known anti-Semitic group the MPAPI. Mr. Disney was a member of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals until the 1950s. The MPAPAI was an anti-communist, anti-fascist, and Anti-Semitic organization.
after Kristallnacht [1938], she approached every studio in Hollywood looking for work. No studio head would even screen her movies except Walt Disney. He told her he admired her work but if it became known that he was considering hiring her, it would damage his reputation.
There were other damning accusations about Walt Disney. He was accused by senior animator Art Babbitt of a relationship with Fritz Kuhn leader of the German American Bund. Babbitt was at Disney studios from 1933-1951. Mr. Babbitt notably created one of Disneys most enduring characters Goofy. He claimed that Disney had outright sympathy for Kuhn. Babbitt made other accusations about Disney and Disneys lawyer. He claimed that they attended several German American Bund meetings. Mr Babbitt specifically stated that he had seen Walt and his attorney attend a meeting.
In the immediate years before we entered the War there was a small, but fiercely loyal, I suppose legal, following of the Nazi party . . . There were open meetings, anybody could attend and I wanted to see what was going on myself. On more than one occasion I observed Walt Disney and [Disneys lawyer] Gunther Lessing there, along with a lot of prominent Nazi-afflicted Hollywood personalities. Disney was going to meetings all the time.
Walt also had a well documented association with a known anti-Semitic group the MPAPI. Mr. Disney was a member of the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals until the 1950s. The MPAPAI was an anti-communist, anti-fascist, and Anti-Semitic organization.
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As I recall. Can't you buy a season ticket to Universal for about a two day pass?
alphafemale
Jun 2015
#67
Haha! I spend the entirety of Rip Ride Rocket trying to keep my composure :)
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#96
My daughter got up early one morning and got there when the park opened
Baitball Blogger
Jun 2015
#103
Nobody said it wasn't packed. DL/DW aren't being packed by the Middle-Class, was the argument.
WinkyDink
Jun 2015
#161
So the 19 million visitors to Disney World and 16 million visitors to Disneyland
onenote
Jun 2015
#167
It's not affordable for the average family. They've priced themselves out of that market.
MADem
Jun 2015
#105
We really enjoyed ourselves there--had a lovely, relaxing time wandering around.
MADem
Jun 2015
#142
The "average" family is just trying to pay for rent/mortgage, food, insurance, taxes, car, etc.
Arugula Latte
Jun 2015
#145
There are still families that just can't imagine spending that kind of scratch on a vacation.
MADem
Jun 2015
#141
From some accounts I've read Unkkie Walt was a Nazi sympathizer and antisemite who welcomed
azurnoir
Jun 2015
#22
Yes I did, but defend if you wish but personally the membership in MPAPI is enough
azurnoir
Jun 2015
#33
In the late 70s my little brother & friends tried to get jobs there, but the hiring policy was
appalachiablue
Jun 2015
#97
I can see how that would be the case in the entertainment industry even going back to
appalachiablue
Jun 2015
#143
Well, it;s been open for sixty or so of those years--so you were just a little whippersnapper when
MADem
Jun 2015
#106
Disney World was the key catalyst for the sprawl that devoured Central Florida.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jun 2015
#124
The family across the street went in the early part of May. (mom, dad, 2 children)
BlueJazz
Jun 2015
#56
I read where there are various websites that post places to get high in Disney.
GoneOffShore
Jun 2015
#42
If you do you homework in advance and search around Disney on the internet it can be affordable...
Historic NY
Jun 2015
#36
1) Have you been to Disneyland before and 2) Have you priced downtown hotels in major cities?
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2015
#81
We spent over 400 bucks a night at Great Wolf Lodge in Cincinnati and I thought
B Calm
Jun 2015
#149
Yes and the hotel at Disney is just for the hotel -you still have to pay park admission
gollygee
Jun 2015
#151
100 bucks a day for one person/one theme park entrance is too high! At least Great Wolf Lodge
B Calm
Jun 2015
#164
Generally, Universal and Busch Gardens (especially late in the summer) offer locals incredible deals
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2015
#83
All I know is that there were plenty of middle class people there when I visited...
brooklynite
Jun 2015
#85
When I was a kid, I whined endlessly wanting to go to Six Flags Over Texas.
Manifestor_of_Light
Jun 2015
#86
Can't wait to take my kids next year for the first time! We are middle class and are going to
cbdo2007
Jun 2015
#125
teen boys aren't exactly the Disney demographic (unless they're Star Wars or Marvel fanboys)
pstokely
Jun 2015
#150
did they have access to a car or did you drop them off at the park for a day?
pstokely
Jun 2015
#186
I don't find Disney to be higher priced than most other vacation destinations.
Ace Rothstein
Jun 2015
#132
Recently went to Universal studios, SHOCKED at the gate price, whatever it was
randys1
Jun 2015
#152
When we went last year (our first and last time with the kids), we did a lot to cut costs.
Butterbean
Jun 2015
#156
“They're going to set their prices at the top 10 percent of family incomes...." says it all.
WinkyDink
Jun 2015
#160