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H2O Man

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Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:36 PM Jun 2015

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I watched Hillary Clinton’s speech earlier today, and was quite impressed. I thought the content of her message was solid. It is easy to see why so many Democrats are supporting her campaign.

In my opinion, her delivery was good. In fact, I thought it was better than anything from the 2008 Democratic primary. A few years prior to that, I had the opportunity to watch Ms. Clinton deliver an off-the-cuff talk to a very small group of local, grass roots Democrats in the Village of Sidney, New York. Seeing her in person in that small, casual setting -- including the question-and-answer period after her talk -- was extremely impressive.

I do not think she comes across as strongly as a speaker before large, more formal settings. For example, her husband is a more talented public speaker. Yet, I’ve always much preferred her to Bill Clinton. In part, this is because I think that she is further to the left than he is; also, I think that she is more trustworthy than Bill Clinton.

I was struck by the authority that she communicated with today. As I’ve noted on this forum before, there are three types of “authority” in this context: traditional, bureaucratic, and charismatic. “Traditional” is, of course, the way things have always been done. Obviously, as the potential first female President of the United States, she doesn’t represent traditional authority. Indeed, she is prepared to make a basic change in the way that things were always done in the pas.

“Bureaucratic” refers to large systems, dealing with numerous people. It is evident that Hillary Clinton is well-versed in our state and federal systems of government. In order for anyone -- be it her or anyone else -- to institute meaningful reform in our system of government, they absolutely have to have a keen understanding of how it works. It simply cannot be otherwise.

Ms. Clinton does not have the charisma of a John F. Kennedy, a Bill Clinton, or a Barack Obama. That doesn’t mean that she is as ponderous a public presenter as, say, a Lyndon Johnson. Nor, for that matter, is she as slimy as Richard Nixon, as dull as Gerald Ford, as shallow as Ronald Reagan, or as giddy a compulsive liar as George W. Bush. She comes across as competent, well-informed, and experienced.

Although I thought it was an impressive speech, I still understand why many good Democrats and members of the Democratic Left do not support Hillary Clinton. I feel no need to discuss these at this time, as this is simply about my impressions of her speech today. Nor am I intending to join with the cheerleaders.

There is a stark difference between Ms. Clinton and any of the announced or unannounced republican candidates. I do not expect that any of them will attempt to debate the substance of her speech. Rather, they will rely upon the right-wing “press” to attack her for non-issues, such as her hair style or outfit. Considering the pathetic cast of characters their party has to offer, I suppose that is about all they’ve got.

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Hillary Clinton's Hair [View all] H2O Man Jun 2015 OP
I sort of figured the right wing would hit her on the blue pant suit.............. leftofcool Jun 2015 #1
Poor Michelle. H2O Man Jun 2015 #21
That wasn't even Michelle, though. It was leftofcool imaging what Michelle might say. merrily Jun 2015 #52
Yeah, I know that. H2O Man Jun 2015 #55
None of the GOP candidates are intelligent enough to comment on anything Hillary livetohike Jun 2015 #2
Very good! H2O Man Jun 2015 #22
I found her speech absent any policy. it was vague and an appeal to sentiment and emotion cali Jun 2015 #3
You sure are a whiz with that cheap tablet! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #7
appreciate the synopsis. 2banon Jun 2015 #19
I wouldn't expect H2O Man Jun 2015 #25
both Bernie and Martin spoke to specifics. cali Jun 2015 #29
You are right. H2O Man Jun 2015 #37
She said the detailed policies would be coming after this speech... Gloria Jun 2015 #46
Right. H2O Man Jun 2015 #57
The Republican nominee who has to get up on stage okasha Jun 2015 #4
Oh yeah MoonRiver Jun 2015 #17
If Ms. Clinton is H2O Man Jun 2015 #26
oh. so you've already coordinated her. let's see how she does in the democratic primary debates. cali Jun 2015 #33
She'll do beautifully. okasha Jun 2015 #36
Not to be underestimated BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #5
She should win the H2O Man Jun 2015 #28
Her hair is more qualified and sane than any of her Republican opponents' entire heads. spooky3 Jun 2015 #6
True, that. H2O Man Jun 2015 #30
I didn't get to see it... NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #8
I'd vote for her ESPECIALLY if she wore the Zoot! Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #9
I have the shaved head down, but I don't think I could pull off the zoot suit. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #10
Lol - maybe though because of those sweet hats? Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #16
LMAO! leftofcool Jun 2015 #27
Some of my H2O Man Jun 2015 #31
^^^^ ellisonz Jun 2015 #11
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2015 #32
You are welcome. ellisonz Jun 2015 #35
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2015 #38
Your point on speechmaking is important. ellisonz Jun 2015 #44
I agree. H2O Man Jun 2015 #49
I waited until both her live, and the written speech was online... MerryBlooms Jun 2015 #12
Right. H2O Man Jun 2015 #39
hair, eh? MisterP Jun 2015 #13
... BeanMusical Jun 2015 #20
I'm dying to see H2O Man Jun 2015 #41
It was a good kickoff speech JaneyVee Jun 2015 #14
I agree. H2O Man Jun 2015 #42
LOL Iliyah Jun 2015 #15
The faint praise and he is of course not one of those cheerleaders... boston bean Jun 2015 #18
I thought that it was a nice compliment. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #24
I recommend H2O Man Jun 2015 #43
Very Generous H2O Man.. 2banon Jun 2015 #23
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2015 #47
Most excellent title malaise Jun 2015 #34
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2015 #50
k&r... spanone Jun 2015 #40
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2015 #51
always appreciate your well-thought out posts! spanone Jun 2015 #53
It is definitely the formal settings where I see the robotic deliveries JonLP24 Jun 2015 #45
Interesting. H2O Man Jun 2015 #54
I don't know who he was speaking too JonLP24 Jun 2015 #58
And that blue pantsuit... kentuck Jun 2015 #48
Well said. H2O Man Jun 2015 #56
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