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73. It's an analysis of why a 1st Amendment argument is a weak one.

Reply to nomorenomore08 (Reply #68)

Sun May 13, 2012, 06:57 PM

May 2012

You're reading too much into it.

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. riderinthestorm May 2012 #1

1+ Neoma May 2012 #35

Isn't ironic that states have reciprocal gun laws, but Fawke Em May 2012 #2

Marriage isn't enshrined in an Amendment. Orsino May 2012 #13

Marriage isn't enshrined in an Amendment. AlbertCat May 2012 #16

Your civil rights in respect of firearms are enshrined in the US Constitution badtoworse May 2012 #21

Your civil rights in respect of firearms are enshrined in the US Constitution AlbertCat May 2012 #28

That is your argument, and a rather weak one at that. badtoworse May 2012 #42

"Just because they don't want the definition changed." nomorenomore08 May 2012 #68

It's an analysis of why a 1st Amendment argument is a weak one. badtoworse May 2012 #73

Okay, fair enough. Maybe I did jump to conclusions a bit. nomorenomore08 May 2012 #77

Your "civil right" to join a state-sponsored militia - what we today call the National Guard - is apocalypsehow May 2012 #38

You are wrong on both points badtoworse May 2012 #39

I am correct on both points. (1) *Loving v. Virginia* is the USSC case pertinent to the constitution apocalypsehow May 2012 #50

I would oppose any SCOTUS nominee that would overturn Heller. badtoworse May 2012 #53

Then you oppose the Democratic nominees last two progressive USSC justices, and will oppose any apocalypsehow May 2012 #54

The national guard is not a militia. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #55

In the current context of the 2nd amendment, the National Guard of 2012 IS the 18th century apocalypsehow May 2012 #56

Eminently tolerant of you. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #60

Yep: I'm not "tolerant" of GOP/NRA talking points, or debating those who spew them. apocalypsehow May 2012 #64

"Spew off, then." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #67

There is only one context for our cvil rights and that is the one the framers intended. badtoworse May 2012 #61

You go "educate" someone else with the NRA talking points and dodges. There is no "civil right" to apocalypsehow May 2012 #63

wow, on this board we discuss and debate, and we respect others opinions. crazyjoe May 2012 #74

Not quite: this is a progressive discussion board, and genuine progressives among us don't "respect" apocalypsehow May 2012 #75

Why should I have to choose between a progressive agenda and my 2nd Amendment rights? badtoworse May 2012 #57

Putting aside your mistaken interpretation of the 2nd amendment for the moment, the answer is simply apocalypsehow May 2012 #59

The right to an effective self-defense is right wing? Who knew! badtoworse May 2012 #62

Peddling nonsense about there being a "civil right" to own a gun is right wing: yep. And, of course, apocalypsehow May 2012 #65

"I think we're done here" - Good. We'll see how long it lasts. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #66

Because you disagree... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #69

Reciprocal gun laws aren't part of the Second Amendment obamanut2012 May 2012 #44

You are correct about reciprocal gun laws badtoworse May 2012 #46

One more progressive Justice on the court, and Heller is GONE. That will happen in a second Obama apocalypsehow May 2012 #51

You've never heard of the 14th Amendment? baldguy May 2012 #43

The NRA spends big $$$ for those reciprocal laws... radhika May 2012 #14

Sad that America values the rights of gun nuts over couples who want to get married. madinmaryland May 2012 #71

a day in our lives. folks just don't know what it's like with us. nt xchrom May 2012 #3

I live in a state which had done what NC did yesterday SoutherDem May 2012 #4

It's happened already gaspee May 2012 #5

They will have hell to pay if they cross MOM HockeyMom May 2012 #27

Just posted in another thread about this. blueamy66 May 2012 #6

Do not vacation in those states malaise May 2012 #7

and make sure u contact the local chamber of commerce to let them know why you're going elsewhere. crazylikafox May 2012 #34

Simple answer. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #8

Not so simple. Duncan Grant May 2012 #9

That's when you go to a judge. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #10

A judge can't help you if the discrimination has been written into law. Duncan Grant May 2012 #19

If you have been given power of attorney by the person in question... YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #30

An increasing number of anti-equality states have rules to prevent that. LeftyMom May 2012 #70

Thank you, HockeyMom. Zorra May 2012 #11

Very good points. MineralMan May 2012 #12

Michigan banned it a few years ago. Kaleva May 2012 #15

I've got a question then..... rbixby May 2012 #17

There's Article IV: Section 1. bornskeptic May 2012 #22

These laws need to be challengated on the basis of that HockeyMom May 2012 #24

I don't know why full faith and credit doesn't apply here. Manifestor_of_Light May 2012 #37

I've always wondered the same. n/t tammywammy May 2012 #40

Not in all cases Kaleva May 2012 #41

This seems like something the court needs to clear up rbixby May 2012 #48

Wow. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #18

What drives me crazy about that is that, as a liberalhistorian May 2012 #31

Vacation in Delaware - we have lovely beaches here LynneSin May 2012 #20

better to vacation in Vermont cali May 2012 #23

my favorite Vermont event druidity33 May 2012 #25

It's a great event cali May 2012 #33

Oh, I LOVE Vermont HockeyMom May 2012 #26

I am in love with this lake! Marrah_G May 2012 #29

South Beach, Lake Willoughby. Fantastic spot cali May 2012 #32

omg I had no idea about the clothing optional beach! Marrah_G May 2012 #36

What is the name of the campground? mumma1010 May 2012 #78

I have no idea what the name of it is. Marrah_G May 2012 #79

A Florida hospital blocked a lesbian from seeing her dying partner csziggy May 2012 #45

k&r, homophobes sure get their jollies in some pretty strange ways ck4829 May 2012 #47

K&R myrna minx May 2012 #49

How about durable power of attorney for health care? sylvi May 2012 #52

Those aren't full-proof either. Lars39 May 2012 #80

If the state in which you live recognizes your marriage... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #58

Yet straight marriages are recognized, no questions asked. alarimer May 2012 #72

The Constitution-lovers have a serious problem with gay marriage jmowreader May 2012 #76