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DemocratSinceBirth

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92. She isn't a gifted public speaker
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:26 PM
Jun 2015

But neither was LBJ, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Bush Pere, and Geoge Walker Bush and they did just fine..


This is all subjective any way but most communications experts would rate a JFK, a Ronald Reagan and a Barack Obama highly. Their delivery was excellent.

Any way she's not running against herself... The only two good orators on the other side are The Huckster and The Cruz and neither are getting close to the nomination and even if they did their oratory can't compensate for how out of the mainstream they are...


BTW, the OP conflated emapthy with oratory. They are different skills. i thought bill Clinton was charismastic but an ordinary speaker...He was excellent at being empathetic.

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I can honestly say she did a good job today. onehandle Jun 2015 #1
They're fine philosslayer Jun 2015 #2
Welcome to DU Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #3
Bull Shit, she was awesome. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #4
video for you PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #5
maybe bigtree Jun 2015 #6
Agree. He sounded like a privileged frat boy smirking because he knew he FSogol Jun 2015 #14
What you said. cwydro Jun 2015 #117
OFFS nolabear Jun 2015 #7
All those thousands of people in the crowd there disagreed Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #8
Welcome To DU and we get it--you don't like her. No need to play games about the "why" of it all. MADem Jun 2015 #9
MADem fadedrose Jun 2015 #20
He is in ppr heaven now. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #123
Ha! Sur-prize, sur-PRIZE, as Gomer would say! nt MADem Jun 2015 #126
The fact that this is the criticism being delivered. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #10
I thought she did great. femmocrat Jun 2015 #11
She's workmanlike. askew Jun 2015 #12
She was on for several parts of the speech 6chars Jun 2015 #37
She lacks believability. askew Jun 2015 #44
in a way that makes her more believable 6chars Jun 2015 #53
That is why I now support Bernie Sanders. pangaia Jun 2015 #85
Siding with the OP mylye2222 Jun 2015 #13
lolwut? there was no teleprompter. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #31
Sure there was..... Segami Jun 2015 #46
Where's the link for that pic? I saw no tele's and she was reading off paper on podium. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #47
Can you NOT SEE the BEAM SPLITTERS Segami Jun 2015 #49
She was reading off paper on podium. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #54
Then you don't know your business.... Segami Jun 2015 #56
I know, what I'm saying is.... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #65
She is READING from BOTH.... Segami Jun 2015 #86
It's a CONSPIRACY! Marr Jun 2015 #103
Heres the link from today madokie Jun 2015 #115
skills? what skills? fadedrose Jun 2015 #15
"This is constructive criticism." ellisonz Jun 2015 #16
How to win friends and influence people... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #17
Diamondhead, pay no attention fadedrose Jun 2015 #21
she actually did a really good job etherealtruth Jun 2015 #18
THANK YOU diamondhead Jun 2015 #22
I always thought RR was a horrible speaker. pangaia Jun 2015 #87
How do you explain "W' terrible orrator, terrible president etherealtruth Jun 2015 #98
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #100
I really should not comment. fadedrose Jun 2015 #23
LOL. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #29
I am going to support the Dem candidate etherealtruth Jun 2015 #91
No she actually didn't! madokie Jun 2015 #116
She did an excellent job today..... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #19
Superficial bullshit Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #24
Haters gonna hate. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #25
Are you going to pretend that the rest of America is like you? diamondhead Jun 2015 #55
Actually, Al Gore won. suffragette Jun 2015 #71
Orators have the best track record when it comes to Exilednight Jun 2015 #81
Your concern has been noted. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #26
Hillary nailed it. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #27
All her emotional moments seem badly scripted to me LittleBlue Jun 2015 #28
+1 that's a good way of putting it. CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #97
You summed it up perfectly MissDeeds Jun 2015 #108
This gets the TRASH THREAD of the day award. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #30
I thought she did a great job kimbutgar Jun 2015 #32
Is Palin word salad more your speed... Historic NY Jun 2015 #33
Compared to the other potential for the 2016 election, she is in the first one or two speech givers. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #34
I think HRC is just trying too hard to be an earthy, down home type person. She never has been that. LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #35
and she will never see a friendlier crowd Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #36
She will never see a friendlier crowd? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #40
I thought she did great today. DanTex Jun 2015 #38
She spoke eloquently and brilliantly. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #39
So do you speak elequently and brilliantly fadedrose Jun 2015 #41
I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but you can tell when somebody you are ignoring replies.. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #45
Didn't know that... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #50
My gawd, MrMickeysMom!... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #61
You know what that little guy's stretchy legs REALLY are? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #69
Well now... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #73
I don't care aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #42
Clearly you didn't listen to the whole speech before you posted this nonsense Sheepshank Jun 2015 #43
Exactly what I was going to say. Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #90
Honestly, I think she spoke from the heart. Lisa D Jun 2015 #48
I support Sanders first and looked at her speech with an open-mind Quixote1818 Jun 2015 #51
I didn't watch the speech JonLP24 Jun 2015 #52
Some people aren't use to hearing a woman giving a political speech in front of thousands boston bean Jun 2015 #57
+1 Lisa D Jun 2015 #58
I wouldn't say her being a woman has anything at all to do with it diamondhead Jun 2015 #60
Yup. bettyellen Jun 2015 #75
Strange, I always thought she was a good speaker. n/t Marrah_G Jun 2015 #59
Best damn speech I've heard in a very long time.... Little Star Jun 2015 #62
"This is why people voted for George W. Bush over Al Gore" brooklynite Jun 2015 #63
I didn't say MORE people voted for Bush diamondhead Jun 2015 #66
You're suggesting George Bush had oratory skills? aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #68
Monkeyturd served two terms. Kinda ruins your little thesis, there, sport. MADem Jun 2015 #78
Bush was a lousy orator... Blanks Jun 2015 #94
No, she's not the best speech-giver Scootaloo Jun 2015 #64
Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. Hekate Jun 2015 #67
Check. Check. Check. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #76
american politics can be so tiresome mooseprime Jun 2015 #70
"I'm saying that's how she COMES OFF" Joe Turner Jun 2015 #72
And how many days madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 #74
Al Gore WON the popular vote, and of course the whole election which was stolen for Bush. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #77
Oftentimes people are wrong about stuff here. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #79
Baloney! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #80
Gore won. Bush stole it. roody Jun 2015 #82
what a bullshit post rurallib Jun 2015 #83
She's no Obama for sure... Phentex Jun 2015 #84
Be honest? She's not the best. She's not the worst. winter is coming Jun 2015 #88
very few people are paying attention right now qazplm Jun 2015 #89
But, wasn't today conceived and implemented to change that? HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #93
She isn't a gifted public speaker DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #92
Welcome to DU, Diamondhead PADemD Jun 2015 #95
You think Bernie's an orator? LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #96
Until they're not. Cha Jun 2015 #99
... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #102
I thought Hillary gave a very good speech today. kentuck Jun 2015 #101
It might be a problem if her presumptive Republicant opponent was charismatic. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #104
I don't think any of the Republicans can even come close to Hillary... kentuck Jun 2015 #105
I hope you're right./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #106
She sounds fake like a robot. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #107
you're not going to get any passion or spontaneity from hrc. She will read the poll tested Doctor_J Jun 2015 #109
She isn't any Bill Clinton that's for sure n/t doc03 Jun 2015 #110
I Agree With You ...... global1 Jun 2015 #111
She is not a talented speaker BlindTiresias Jun 2015 #112
every breath was timed ...every hand gesture was practiced ... quadrature Jun 2015 #113
Phoney and superficial. Rah-rah. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #114
Another day, another Hillary Clinton Whipping Post thread. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #118
. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #120
diamondhead has been shown the door. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #119
Good. Andy823 Jun 2015 #121
Obvious troll was obvious. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #122
She is ok Veldrick Jun 2015 #124
Precisely what made this commerical so effective 8 years ago rocktivity Jun 2015 #125
your opinion is your opinion. not mine. honest. spanone Jun 2015 #127
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