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35. Where did they get the docs?

Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:24 PM

Jun 2015

Snowden averred he didn't have a copy on his computer. Did they hack one of the newspapers?

Would Ellsberg have been a traitor for leaking the Pentagon Papers?

I don't think NSA surveillance could have been challenged in the way that it has without Snowden's actions. He's a hero.

Also the bag of dirty tricks the government pulled out in pursuing Snowden underscored why he had to do things the way he did and will probably promote future "careful" leaking and whistleblowing instead of any "going through channels". The whole affair was glorious theater in corrupt internal politics exposed for all the world to see.

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Not good: REPORT: RUSSIA, CHINA CRACK SNOWDEN DOCS [View all] JaneyVee Jun 2015 OP

There you go. Knew it was coming! onecaliberal Jun 2015 #1

They're never gonna let him back in the US after this. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #3

But he gave everything away to responsible corporations. randome Jun 2015 #2

Its not like this wasn't predicted: JaneyVee Jun 2015 #5

Pay no attention to this article. Aerows Jun 2015 #16

What's to say the documents Snowden leaked Egnever Jun 2015 #20

I doubt seriously Aerows Jun 2015 #23

Why in the world do you think they would need to admit to it? Egnever Jun 2015 #33

Do you honestly think Aerows Jun 2015 #39

Wait so you are concerned about us spying on everyone Egnever Jun 2015 #43

LOL Yeah, there's a total disconnect here Aerows Jun 2015 #44

You will never convince the hang Snowden crowd marym625 Jun 2015 #45

Yes and that couldn't possibly have happened because they cracked snowdens encription. Egnever Jun 2015 #66

If they are still using the same Aerows Jun 2015 #86

His encription? Like they hacked into his computer to know who is hacking into his computer JonLP24 Jun 2015 #92

He's not the hero many believe him to be sub.theory Jun 2015 #69

I think he is a guy who saw something that wasn't right JonLP24 Jun 2015 #91

I don't fear them JonLP24 Jun 2015 #4

snowden needs to be locked up and never let out. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #6

Only if he shares a cell with Dick Cheney and Karl Rove (remember Valerie Plame?). WinkyDink Jun 2015 #9

How absolutely ABSURD that remark is... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #10

It is one thing to expose government wrongdoing Egnever Jun 2015 #24

� which if that was what he did, would be entirely wrong� but it wasn't... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #26

You want me to watch a movie to find out what he did Egnever Jun 2015 #29

No, no, you REALLY want to watch the movie! NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #57

Wow... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #61

It would appear that actual documentation of what happened would help you... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #59

Well if you have some documentation that refutes this stuff feel free Egnever Jun 2015 #60

I'd say the documentary WAS pretty substantial... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #63

So I guess your documentation was the movie Egnever Jun 2015 #64

I follow news as well as you are able to.. print media, too. MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #68

Nah you can just come up with one link Egnever Jun 2015 #85

Adjust your eyeglasses, perhaps... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #89

The film was a pretty on-the-spot during the moment filming JonLP24 Jun 2015 #90

Excellent post marym625 Jun 2015 #48

+1 Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #53

Really? Kelvin Mace Jun 2015 #67

ooohhh...... think Jun 2015 #79

There are plenty of traitors in America, all making tons of money AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #7

Who is the enemy of who? JonLP24 Jun 2015 #12

Let's harp about Snowden Aerows Jun 2015 #8

I still don't believe the ends support the means here, there was a better way other than running to uponit7771 Jun 2015 #13

Did you read the information in that other article I linked to? Aerows Jun 2015 #19

Kind of interesting one comes on the heels of the other no? Egnever Jun 2015 #14

Sure is - the AP report came out last night Aerows Jun 2015 #18

At least you recognize it Egnever Jun 2015 #22

I see the coincidence with the focus on China JonLP24 Jun 2015 #34

Right on� Move on, people� nothing to see here... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #15

I was just thinking of that G_j Jun 2015 #21

No, it can't get much worse... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #25

I hear ya.. G_j Jun 2015 #27

I doubt that story too JonLP24 Jun 2015 #28

+1000. ok, + a gazillion marym625 Jun 2015 #46

Aw shucks! Aerows Jun 2015 #47

Back at ya marym625 Jun 2015 #49

We're supposed to believe another report leaked by western intel agencies LittleBlue Jun 2015 #56

Yep Aerows Jun 2015 #80

Even if half true it's 100% bad, Snowden could've raised attention to this matter in a legal way uponit7771 Jun 2015 #11

Really? How? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #17

No excuse treestar Jun 2015 #42

Are you pre-empting the possibility that the article is BS? Veldrick Jun 2015 #71

The killer of linkbaits (Glenn Greenwald) calls it unsourced and unverified Veldrick Jun 2015 #74

You realize this is incorrect, right, marym625 Jun 2015 #30

?? Egnever Jun 2015 #32

and then there's the truth marym625 Jun 2015 #36

Even the BBC pick up -- BBC is far from accurate JonLP24 Jun 2015 #38

Yeah marym625 Jun 2015 #41

Hate to say I told you all so... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #31

Where did they get the docs? daredtowork Jun 2015 #35

yep marym625 Jun 2015 #37

Hahahaha! Yes. They found them underneath someone's bed. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #40

Or they just hacked them out from under the so-called "journalists" Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #73

You do not know the meaning of haphazard. The journalists he chose was deliberate. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #87

Has Greenwald responded yet? Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #50

Yes Veldrick Jun 2015 #70

LOL at that fucking coward hypocrite Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #72

Actually, he said he would write about it Veldrick Jun 2015 #76

I expected a proper response in the tweet Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #77

Certain heads will explode when Greenwald debunks this in The Intercept Veldrick Jun 2015 #78

Greenwald has never "debunked" anything in his career Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #82

The Snowald cabal said the dragnet was illegal Veldrick Jun 2015 #93

Sorry Greenwald. joshcryer Jun 2015 #84

Always the professional! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #88

Richard Clarke has been saying for a long time that Snowden belongs in prison BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #51

I suspect this is what has really happened Oilwellian Jun 2015 #52

"It was dramatically worse than first acknowledged" Aerows Jun 2015 #58

Oopsie! Yes, that's a more plausible explanation. n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #62

"Funny, Snowden despised leakers & those who put spies' lives at risk until *this* President was Cha Jun 2015 #54

Interesting that all this super sensitive information. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #55

Life will continue on. roamer65 Jun 2015 #65

A leaked report condemning leaked reports. Warren Stupidity Jun 2015 #75

I don't care much for spies anyway. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #81

MI6?? kentuck Jun 2015 #83

I do hope Mr. Snowden enjoys life in Russia alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #94