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1StrongBlackMan

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134. Well, Yes ...

Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:29 PM

Jun 2015

Conformation Bias would be an appropriate chapter ... for the author, not me.

How does an commentator hope to claim/convince anyone that HRC "lost the campaign", when he clearly is full of crap ... HRC's supporters do not question her "progressive credentials" or "where her loyalties lie" ... Bernie supporters do.

And, I stopped reading because economic injustice is only "the biggest issue today" for those that don't have to concern themselves with the denial of civil rights. And that is the DU Bernie supporters' mantra. I know it by heart ... including the "you're/they're just too F'ing stupid to know" your/their interests part.

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Hillary May Have Just LOST This Campaign [View all] Segami Jun 2015 OP

Hillary will be fine,regardless of the non stop sufrommich Jun 2015 #1

You mean like the bitterness from the PUMA crowd? Kelvin Mace Jun 2015 #12

Yea the bitter thing won't hunt Egnever Jun 2015 #21

Were they ever seems like mostly pretenders...... Historic NY Jun 2015 #181

Many "PUMAs" were BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #224

Still beating that dead horse? ronnykmarshall Jun 2015 #252

Not really but it hasn't stopped the hate from those folks Egnever Jun 2015 #261

Need help once again....whats a 'PUMA"? 7962 Jun 2015 #45

Party Unity, My Ass! Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #49

The PUMAs Segami Jun 2015 #50

Ahhhh, I see! Thanks for both responses 7962 Jun 2015 #54

And they are ready to do the same thing this time around again passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #75

Take out the earplugs. okasha Jun 2015 #84

How about a link to some of those comments, because I seriously have not seen them passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #86

Search is your friend. okasha Jun 2015 #92

ie. there are none. (nt) paleotn Jun 2015 #100

To the rescue. Again. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #109

Of course we will support SOS Clinton.... paleotn Jun 2015 #115

18% of "you" will not. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #120

For the same reasons we voted for Obama in 2012... paleotn Jun 2015 #130

Hillary once claimed that Pakistan was the most dangerous country in the World. This country is the DhhD Jun 2015 #231

46% of Bernie supporters said they would support Hillary if she wins the primaries passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #132

To the best of my knowledge, there isn't one. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #137

well, here you go passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #163

just as I thought passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #167

I just saw this. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #172

Sorry it's late and I'm tired. I'll see if I can find it again passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #173

how is 17% "many" sanders hopemountain Jun 2015 #258

I just resurrected my poll. okasha Jun 2015 #148

okasha, I'd like to see it. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #175

My phone gets pissy with links. okasha Jun 2015 #180

Thanks (n/t) OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #182

I'm quite towards the center, much to the right of regular DUers ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #158

There are dozens, at least, okasha Jun 2015 #110

I'll believe that when I see it..... paleotn Jun 2015 #118

You just did. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #122

Just search out any of my posts. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #226

Because every Hillary supporter laughs at Bernie ybbor Jun 2015 #155

Hardly. okasha Jun 2015 #160

Bullcrap! I love Bernie. juajen Jun 2015 #211

Same here .... ronnykmarshall Jun 2015 #253

I've never laughed at Bernie in my life. juajen Jun 2015 #212

You are wrong, my "friend." eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #227

Do you know where you are? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #95

I bet you thought we were in the Hillary support forum passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #97

I know exactly where I am. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #103

I"m not going to play your games. passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #113

Don't play my "games" then. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #114

I clicked on your link passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #123

You're not "looking" for anything. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #133

I never said "all" Bernie supporters would vote for Hillary in the general passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #140

Pretty much done here. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #150

Hey, I can't prove a negative passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #153

Um... that would, theoretically, be MY job. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #154

This got lost somehow...but here it is again passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #166

Eh wut? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #169

Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #164

Actually I just posted a poll that totally disproves what you just said. passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #165

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #176

Sorry, I am not up to your challenge. I am exhausted and going to bed. passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #195

You are purposefully being obtuse Sheepshank Jun 2015 #240

Well, let me add myself to that list. Amimnoch Jun 2015 #245

OMG, really? Do you think PUMA activism translated to... Beartracks Jun 2015 #209

PUMA is awholenother group this election. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2015 #216

A nasty, nasty slam that people who supported Obama in the primaries used against Hillary supporters Marrah_G Jun 2015 #112

I remember it too well ronnykmarshall Jun 2015 #254

omg the ignorance is astounding. and Bragging about Voting for McCain if HRC isn't on the Ballot! 2banon Jun 2015 #170

It is somewhat surprising, but not shocking. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #279

good point. It's what I say when I feel "gob smacked" by something so ridiculous .. 2banon Jul 2015 #281

This is pointing out policy weakness. It's not bitterness onecaliberal Jun 2015 #31

Most won't take there blinders off to read it. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #41

Hillary will never be fine... Thespian2 Jun 2015 #63

Maybe not, but passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #128

Sorry Thespian2 Jun 2015 #131

You know what? passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #136

When you are right Thespian2 Jun 2015 #179

I'll give you that, but it's not saying a whole lot. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #280

Whistle past the graveyard much? paleotn Jun 2015 #67

Believe she will be tooeyeten Jun 2015 #197

You call it bitterness. I call it concern. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #205

Mrs Clinton won't fly very high without a left wing Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #234

Yup....totally making much out of little Sheepshank Jun 2015 #239

Well said, suf! nt OhZone Jun 2015 #246

tl;dr OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #2

What is tl;dr? calimary Jun 2015 #127

too long didn't read Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #138

Aha! Thanks! That's a new one for me. calimary Jun 2015 #143

Too long; didn't read shenmue Jun 2015 #192

Thanks, shenmue! I learn something new every day! calimary Jun 2015 #242

U welcome shenmue Jun 2015 #243

Wishful thinking. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #3

I'm not sure this Kos Diary has enough exclamation points. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #4

It was edited by Elaine BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #24

OMG Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Snotcicles Jun 2015 #40

You just made an awesome thread (awesome for all the wrong reasons) even better. Number23 Jun 2015 #99

The first of 1000s of OPs to be titled in such manner treestar Jun 2015 #5

I thought that was a rule here passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #90

LOL Spazito Jun 2015 #6

... SidDithers Jun 2015 #7

Hey, you're back. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #35

Unfortunately. L0oniX Jun 2015 #37

Yep. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #43

+1000000 MissDeeds Jun 2015 #203

Hey, you're back!!! Number23 Jun 2015 #98

Thanks... SidDithers Jun 2015 #145

Good call.. some people have a sad that he's back.. Cha Jun 2015 #171

Welcome back, Sid. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #215

Everyone has an opinion, but boy is this one whacked OKNancy Jun 2015 #8

Want to elaborate? paleotn Jun 2015 #102

No, she's just passive aggressive passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #142

There's a lot of that going around here Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #207

Is the Daily Kos still around???? YAAAwwwnnnnnn! politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2015 #9

Wall o' text Fumesucker Jun 2015 #10

Ha! Ha!! Ha!!! Metric System Jun 2015 #11

Take comfort in this, Segami and Kos diarist carolinayellowdog Jun 2015 #13

I welcome their kick... Segami Jun 2015 #15

0% evidence, 0% reasoning, 100% aggressive disdain carolinayellowdog Jun 2015 #56

+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #19

You mean like the ...................oh forget it. George II Jun 2015 #61

Boy did you hit the nail on the head. passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #14

Me too. Hillary may have the political machinary and the Wall Street cash behind her, but, there's one thing she lacks that Bernie has bundles of, and that's genuineness. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #33

She has, over the years morphed into hifiguy Jun 2015 #66

You're right to wonder whether Hillary has any core convictions; I have as well. Highly doubtful. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #71

I believe that throughout her political career, she has assiduously followed the ladjf Jun 2015 #94

So true. Politicians demonstrate true leadership by doing what's right, even when it's not politically expedient, and convincing others to follow their lead... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #206

For instance, the signers of the Declaration of Independance knew full well ladjf Jun 2015 #208

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jun 2015 #263

The Beltway claimed Romney was going to win because of his money too.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #59

No, and the American people can spot a phony a mike's away. Bernie is the genuine article and that too is patently obvious. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #74

Which is why we never had a president Perot or Forbes nt 7962 Jun 2015 #144

Bernie's message resonates with progressives apnu Jun 2015 #269

It's early. Most voters had not heard of Bernie six months ago. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #278

The BOLD OWW ellisonz Jun 2015 #16

Format needed smaller paragraphs. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #17

Started questioning the OP, here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #18

Or the chapter on conformational bias? zeemike Jun 2015 #42

Well, Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #134

Well it is good to know you don't have it but others do. zeemike Jun 2015 #168

What are you talking about? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #228

The animals at Lion Country Safari think they are free too nolabels Jun 2015 #230

Yep, it's all about the $$$ Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #46

Read it again. TM99 Jun 2015 #85

Oh thank you passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #104

I agree ... Blinders and head-phones ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #151

sanders polls way better with women than men shaayecanaan Jun 2015 #221

There are PLENTY of Blacks, LGBT, and Women that support Sanders. stillwaiting Jun 2015 #233

More LGBT support Sanders marym625 Jun 2015 #273

Well said swilton Jun 2015 #147

Come on! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #149

Thank you so much for illustrating my point perfectly. TM99 Jun 2015 #196

Okay, I hear you - but to date I haven't heard Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #177

Sanders has addressed many of these issues over the years TM99 Jun 2015 #183

Thank you for the vids and links :) Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #185

You bet. TM99 Jun 2015 #190

+1 leftofcool Jun 2015 #87

TLDR Egnever Jun 2015 #20

Stop, stop. My sides are hurting. Hekate Jun 2015 #22

Good read. Owl Jun 2015 #23

Yeah I printed it out ronnykmarshall Jun 2015 #255

Bullshit. She can run for nomination without destroying her chance in the general election underpants Jun 2015 #25

Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria! MyNameGoesHere Jun 2015 #26

One can only hope. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #28

Did she even mention the environment or climate change? I did not have glinda Jun 2015 #29

yes, strongly.. even made a joke about Repubs saying "I'm not a scientist" OKNancy Jun 2015 #38

Strongly meaning..... glinda Jun 2015 #53

Why don't you gird your loins, pull up the speech, and listen to it, rather than noodge MADem Jun 2015 #62

Thanks MADem.. Those who want to be spoon fed need to pull themselves up by their Cha Jun 2015 #174

I would not be as rude to you as you are being to me. I have had a glinda Jun 2015 #204

Here is the transcript BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #73

thanks glinda Jul 2015 #275

Didn't quite do it for me... quickesst Jun 2015 #30

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #34

LMFAO L0oniX Jun 2015 #39

Oh lord thats hilarious 7962 Jun 2015 #52

See now, that's just disturbing. n/t Alkene Jun 2015 #60

Wow. I hadn't seen that gif since Breitbart died. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #64

OMG!!!! ROFL!!! Not since breitbart died! There's someone I sure don't miss! calimary Jun 2015 #125

Someone here is carrying a torch for him. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #129

.... appalachiablue Jun 2015 #65

Bwahahahaha!! JoePhilly Jun 2015 #250

Good essay - we need a Presidential candidate who stands for democratic ideals GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #32

K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #36

According to some on DU ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #44

+1 obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2015 #51

I said it at the very beginning, the only person that can win/lose the presidency for HRC Rex Jun 2015 #55

Yep! leftofcool Jun 2015 #88

No Nance passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #146

You're forgetting ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #156

LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #161

Now, you see an example of appropriate placement. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #186

Huh? n/t NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #187

See your own post in Bernie group. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #188

Yeah, how dumb could I be? NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #193

Whoa. I was prepared to say SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #194

Your "tsk-tsk" snark ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #259

Go on !!! ronnykmarshall Jun 2015 #256

Hey, Ronny K!!! NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #260

I've seen that, too. And Bernie is the inevitable winner, too. DFW Jun 2015 #217

K&R MissDeeds Jun 2015 #47

Lol! zappaman Jun 2015 #48

Who are the 60 people who recced this thread so I can put them on ignore? Metric System Jun 2015 #57

And they're off!!!! George II Jun 2015 #58

In 2000, Bush and Gore were similar candidates demwing Jun 2015 #68

Follow up: In 2008 Bush ran hard to the right on every issue demwing Jun 2015 #70

I want to hear her say it's time to change the tax structures so the wealthy pay more passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #69

She said it today. okasha Jun 2015 #91

But it does not/won't matter. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #159

I guess what I really meant was passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #248

The old ladies in the local diner disagree... noel711 Jun 2015 #72

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #76

Right now, Hillary looks "too big to fail" JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #77

Boldfacing does not substitute for paragraphs. MineralMan Jun 2015 #78

* L0oniX Jun 2015 #81

OK. Thanks. MineralMan Jun 2015 #105

Somebody alerted on that? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #111

Hillary may have just WON this campaign wyldwolf Jun 2015 #79

OMG! That was funny! leftofcool Jun 2015 #89

Regardless of one's position, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #106

It's all Greeked to me. MineralMan Jun 2015 #107

he found Molly . . . ucrdem Jun 2015 #121

Okay, that really did make me laugh out loud... Spazito Jun 2015 #139

Couldn't have said it better myself. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #152

Perfect... SidDithers Jun 2015 #199

Consectetur adipiscing elit, festivus, iocosus, jocosus, lenunculus, ridicularius!!! JoePhilly Jun 2015 #251

She like Mitt is having an esoteric conversation with orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #80

Concern noted nt MrScorpio Jun 2015 #82

KOS the once and future Republican strikes again! LMAO! leftofcool Jun 2015 #83

This is the main reason that I support Bernie. PatrickforO Jun 2015 #93

Including women, LGBT's, okasha Jun 2015 #116

That's just not true. TM99 Jun 2015 #198

Gay for Bernie here! m-lekktor Jun 2015 #202

Very doubtful. TPP is her ticket to ride and she took it yesterday... ucrdem Jun 2015 #101

oh give it up already... chillfactor Jun 2015 #108

I wonder how long ago this was written, okasha Jun 2015 #117

^This^ GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #119

I predict the TPP will have zero impact on whether Hillary is elected or not. DCBob Jun 2015 #124

I think it might just tip the scale. ucrdem Jun 2015 #126

Yeah.. good point but I meant in reference to Hillary's opinion about it. DCBob Jun 2015 #135

Ah the OP ... didn't realize it had a point. ucrdem Jun 2015 #141

It's about Sanders authenticity about solving problems vs.Hillary's charisma, and nothing changing YOHABLO Jun 2015 #157

Yup. zappaman Jun 2015 #162

she. Will do just fine Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #178

Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #184

Um, wishful thinking. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #189

You are 100% correct. davidn3600 Jun 2015 #214

To me that's like saying the Golden State Warriors lovemydog Jun 2015 #191

Any polling data to indicate TPP is the number one issue for most voters? BainsBane Jun 2015 #200

It is for labor activists and environmentalists eridani Jun 2015 #213

In my experience BainsBane Jun 2015 #223

And all of them are aware of TPP, and most all of them disapprove n/t eridani Jun 2015 #262

My, it must be amazing to be so omnicient BainsBane Jun 2015 #264

I have yet to meet a local Democrat who does canvassing that is in favor ot TPP eridani Jun 2015 #266

You live in one district BainsBane Jun 2015 #267

It isn't about just one speech. Clinton has supported "free" trade in the past eridani Jun 2015 #272

I'd be interested in knowing. I certainly know my voice is in the minority. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #225

I love how you confirm my view BainsBane Jun 2015 #237

Project much? raouldukelives Jun 2015 #270

Here is the point BainsBane Jun 2015 #271

Hey Bain, sorry for being rude to you. Yesterday was tough all around. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #274

kick yurbud Jun 2015 #201

"most every one of her supporters will acknowledge..." Gman Jun 2015 #210

Seems a bit hyperbolic. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #218

and what could have been a discussion of substance DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #219

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #220

Hillary May Have Just LOST This Campaign ericthered1975 Jun 2015 #222

. stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #229

Another day, another Hillary Clinton Whipping Post thread. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #232

Where Is She? colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #235

Right, I want a woman president too... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Jun 2015 #241

It doesn't matter what she says or does to many ultra-progressives. olegramps Jun 2015 #236

Last time I voted for the 3rd party, subject Jun 2015 #238

the absolutely best post of this thread LynneSin Jun 2015 #244

DailyKos' concern is duly noted. Beacool Jun 2015 #247

So I can stop paying attention? sofa king Jun 2015 #249

Remember when Rahm was gonna lose to Chuy, everyone? alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #257

I bet she'll lose sleep over THIS. 6000eliot Jun 2015 #265

Wishful thinking. Orsino Jun 2015 #268

FANtastic post. Best ever on the Hillary/Sanders contest. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #276

Thank goodness these Ad nauseam bashing HRC posts are now part of the GD Primaries group still_one Jul 2015 #277