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NanceGreggs

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Sun Jun 14, 2015, 02:55 AM
Jun 2015

Our exchange begins at Reply #13 in http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026819265#, where you describe the Clintons’ speaking fees as “take home” pay.

At Reply #34, I ask you to provide links showing that HRC’s speaking fees were not donated. You never do.

At Reply #56, you claim to be “fascinated by the absurd claim that the Clintons gave their entire income to charity!”- despite the fact that no one claimed that the Clintons (plural) donated their “entire income” to charity – well, no one other than you.

No one in that thread – or elsewhere – ever claimed that the Clintons “gave their entire income to charity”. That was YOUR assertion – no one else’s.

Reply #62 stated: “Perhaps if you had something to say that people would pay to hear, you could show us all the proper way to handle that good fortune!”. Your response at Reply #65 was, “So you also claim that the Clintons give all payments from speaking fees to charity?” A fascinating non-sequitar, given that the reply you responded to said nothing about “claiming the Clintons give all speaking fees to charity”.

In Reply #106, you deliver your “theory” about “private income”. Apparently you have come up with an idea that the IRS itself has never heard of. “Her (HRC’s) speaking fees were private income. Not ‘charity’ ”.

As anyone who has ever filed an income tax return can tell you, ALL income must be declared as income, regardless of where it winds up. Charitable donation credits are assessed – and credits given as a result thereof – which result in a reduction of taxes owing. There is no such animal as “private income”.

At Reply #111 you claim that “THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, ANYWHERE, THAT HILLARY CLINTON DONATED ALL HER INCOME FROM SPEAKING FEES TO CHARITY.” (In all CAPS, no less!)

I suppose the IRS’s acceptance of HRC’s charitable donations aren’t enough evidence for you.

I again urge you to contact the media and spill the beans about the blatant LIE that Hillary’s speaking fees were never donated to charity – and she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for any claims that she did so.

Why waste valuable time posting on DU, when you have the “proof” that she duped the IRS – along with millions of voters – into believing she “donated” speaking fees that she actually didn’t?

I’ll be watching the Sunday news media tomorrow for your “late breaking story” – it’s going to be HUGH!!! I’m series!!!

I can play this game all night long, sweetums. If Hillary has falsely claimed to have donated her speaking fees to charity, the "librul media" would be all over her ass - as would the IRS. Apparently they are waiting for a concerned citizen such as yourself to come forward with "the truth" - so give it 'em. And don't forget to post those links to her malfeasance - ya know, the ones you couldn't "find" to post here.

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Her Charity Corporation. orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #1
Charity being the Clinton Global Initiative or whatever... Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #3
Can you prove that she gave all her speaking fees to the Clinton Foundation? delrem Jun 2015 #6
no. here cali Jun 2015 #9
I don't know what that means and don't consider it an answer. delrem Jun 2015 #4
LOL treestar Jun 2015 #65
no, she didn't. I posted a Vox piece about recent speeches she made for a cali Jun 2015 #2
That answer won't satisfy NanceGreggs. delrem Jun 2015 #5
no amount of proof would satisfy her, but here is the link about Hillary's fat pay days cali Jun 2015 #8
I think everyone knows about the fat pay days. delrem Jun 2015 #12
but all you have to do to blow that out of the water cali Jun 2015 #13
Yah well - did you scan the thread? delrem Jun 2015 #15
that makes no sense. when her speaking fees are for the foundation they go directly to it cali Jun 2015 #17
That's what I believe, and I think any normal person would believe. delrem Jun 2015 #18
it's bullshit and just kind of sad that anyone needs to deceive herself like that cali Jun 2015 #21
Do you have a link ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #29
Not conflating Bill and Hillary BainsBane Jun 2015 #32
That wasn't part of my question. I asked about Hillary's personal income only. delrem Jun 2015 #39
No problem. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #46
Let's reduce this to the issue in my OP. The question I asked. delrem Jun 2015 #47
You tell it, brother! NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #48
Are you going to provide a link to back your assertion about the IRS? peacebird Jun 2015 #63
Nope. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #73
In other words you assert something as FACT with no proof to back your words. Guess I don't need peacebird Jun 2015 #74
I didn't "assert" that HRC donates her speaking fees. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #75
Got nothing? Protip: you can use fewer words the next time you have no suitable response. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #71
No. Your claim was about Hillary's speaking fees. delrem Jun 2015 #52
Okay. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #50
Yes, I made a mistake on that particular. delrem Jun 2015 #51
Clinton herself waving $100 bills in front of Nance shouting "It's MINE all MINE!!" jeff47 Jun 2015 #69
.. Purveyor Jun 2015 #7
So a negative means a positive??? Gman Jun 2015 #10
Here you go. She made a lot of speeches for personal profit cali Jun 2015 #11
Your link ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #59
She declared it as income! delrem Jun 2015 #14
Money earned has to be declared okasha Jun 2015 #16
So you, too, claim that Hillary Clinton donated all her speaking fees to charity? delrem Jun 2015 #19
I don't claim anything beyond knowledge of the IRS rule. okasha Jun 2015 #20
Really. Then reread my OP, please, so you'll know what the issue is. delrem Jun 2015 #23
The OP you're responding to ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #33
I gathered as much. okasha Jun 2015 #36
I agree with you okasha. That form Hillary filed is almost identical to the one politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2015 #34
You do know that her tax returns are online, correct? leftofcool Jun 2015 #62
You can bet the the repukes will have a 'full accounting' if and when she becomes the nominee. Purveyor Jun 2015 #28
They look like fools Gman Jun 2015 #35
This isn't about the Clinton Foundation. delrem Jun 2015 #40
Why? Does it matter? Gman Jun 2015 #41
Yes. delrem Jun 2015 #49
I'm sure you'll find Gman Jun 2015 #68
Why would she? RB TexLa Jun 2015 #22
That wasn't the question either. delrem Jun 2015 #24
If you cared about that BainsBane Jun 2015 #31
Still no proof of the assertion. delrem Jun 2015 #37
My irony meter just flipped off its scale! leftofcool Jun 2015 #61
To those that say: "Well, it's her money!", here is my response. Bonobo Jun 2015 #25
So long as you realize that "it's her money" doesn't address the issue raised. nt delrem Jun 2015 #26
It is perceived as a defense. I am pointing out that it is no defense in my book. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #27
The Clintons are worth billions? okasha Jun 2015 #44
You're right! It's ONLY 50 million. I was far off. Bonobo Jun 2015 #45
The poster just lost her husband BainsBane Jun 2015 #30
That doesn't repond to my question. delrem Jun 2015 #38
I can't believe she played that card. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #42
I thank you heartily for that reply, BB. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #43
Please provide a link ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #53
I already did. But you don't bother reading. delrem Jun 2015 #54
Uh, nice try. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #56
Bye. delrem Jun 2015 #57
Oh, no! NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #58
She does not donate the money, the money was never hers to donate. Exilednight Jun 2015 #60
Except she declared the income from those speeches. jeff47 Jun 2015 #70
Then it's still a donation. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #76
... lamp_shade Jun 2015 #55
Doesn't matter what she did with it treestar Jun 2015 #64
Yes, she gave it all to charity. She amassed her fortune working at a Chipotle. Scuba Jun 2015 #66
+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #67
I'm no fan of either Hillary or giving speeches, but . . . Vinca Jun 2015 #72
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