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In reply to the discussion: The new gun safety study that gun nuts don’t want you to hear about [View all]Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)7. Already posted and discussed here with some facts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172168824
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/
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http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/
Gun deaths dropped more on average in the US than they did in Connecticut. By your correlation automatically equals causation logic, we would have been better off not passing the law since the law caused gun deaths to fall slower than the national average.
Another reply in that thread
But who should be surprised? Typically The Controllers point to "gun control" measure X, adopted some time post 1993, and then point to the dramatic drop in gun violence that occurred following the adoption of measure X. Of course they don't tell the readership that gun violence started dropping dramatically nationally around '93 --- leading readers to believe that there is an "obvious" cause and effect relationship between the new measure and the crime rate. Hence the title of the Pew article linked in post #7 which includes the words 'public unaware'.
Well no kidding people are unaware of the dramatic nationwide drop in all violent crime --- The Controllers have treated them like mushrooms.*
* Kept them in the dark and fed them sh*t
Well no kidding people are unaware of the dramatic nationwide drop in all violent crime --- The Controllers have treated them like mushrooms.*
* Kept them in the dark and fed them sh*t
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The new gun safety study that gun nuts don’t want you to hear about [View all]
SecularMotion
Jun 2015
OP
But the point is that owning and operating these are not a Contitutionally protected right,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#85
A cetificate is not a license, it's just a piece of paper saying you passed a safety course.
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#114
Hrm...I can't seem to find where the First Amendment only applies to individuals
jeff47
Jun 2015
#115
The 1A is a restriction on govt to restrict free speech, which would apply to individuals and groups
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#118
And Duck Hunter is arguing the opposite. Might wanna take that up with him. (nt)
jeff47
Jun 2015
#121
You mean a perfect analog for getting a DUI and having your license taken away?
jeff47
Jun 2015
#158
What you fail to realize is that none of those are Constitutionally protected rights.
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#73
Why do I have to register to vote and prove my ID to exercise a Constitutional right?
csziggy
Jun 2015
#129
I'm opposed to these restrictions on voting, they're designed to restrict the poor, minorities,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#135
The problem is, gun control is like climate change in that opponents aren't basing their opinions
DanTex
Jun 2015
#3
No one has "the right to be safe", they don't even have the right to police protection:
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#187
If you want to argue "legal language" then take it up with the legal scholars...
Sancho
Jun 2015
#190
The social science research (like the Connecticut study) shows some of these work...
Sancho
Jun 2015
#197
This reads like the same bill of goods used to sell the Patriot Act. Sorry, no can do
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#199
"I suppose the license could also screen to see if you were on a terrorist watch list."
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#202
" You can prevent shooting by making easy access to guns harder for dangerous people."
beevul
Jun 2015
#212
To start with, fund the ATF properly and get them prosecuting illegal buyers
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#201
"The license would make it more (difficult) to possess guns." FTFY
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#233
The Boulware attack on Dallas police might be the poster child for any/some gun
Dustlawyer
Jun 2015
#6
Yes, part of being a gun owner is being responsible, especially around children.
SheilaT
Jun 2015
#214
"we need to be licensed to drive cars, their are sanctions if we do so badly"
Duckhunter935
Jun 2015
#37
Kudos to CT and other states who pass meaningful gun control laws.
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#15
At the time of my posting this, it says there are 17 replies. I see only 6. That means
valerief
Jun 2015
#19
We need more research that identifies the risks to self and others associated with gun ownership or
etherealtruth
Jun 2015
#31
It says 39 replies. I see only 13. That means most of the posters to this thread I have
valerief
Jun 2015
#41
Not really into baseball. Basketball, soccer, tennis, are my favorite sports to watch.
DanTex
Jun 2015
#58
You can't talk sense to people who need a gun in their pants to walk down the street, or a closet
Hoyt
Jun 2015
#157
Guns have nuts?? I never noticed any on mine! I've had some Walnut stocks/grips before though...
Ghost in the Machine
Jun 2015
#204
Yeah, and we've had more than a few stolen from POLICE CARS around here the past few years...
Ghost in the Machine
Jun 2015
#229
Some people DO *need* guns to live in our society. People like me, who HUNT to supplement the
Ghost in the Machine
Jun 2015
#231