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In reply to the discussion: The new gun safety study that gun nuts don’t want you to hear about [View all]etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)31. We need more research that identifies the risks to self and others associated with gun ownership or
conversely the benefits. No one should be standing in the way of this. Knowledge is power.
Sadly, this seems to be a big right wing issue: squashing the research. one has to wonder if gun ownership is such a good thing, why would one try to "kill" the discussion and research?
We should all be embracing national research
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2015/01/14/why-the-cdc-still-isnt-researching-gun-violence-despite-the-ban-being-lifted-two-years-ago/
Congress has continued to block dedicated funding. Obama requested $10 million for the CDCs gun violence research in his last two budgets. Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) have introduced bills supporting the funding. Both times the Republican-controlled House of Representatives said no. Maloney recently said she planned to reintroduce her bill this year, but she wasnt hopeful.
http://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2013/02/gun-violence.aspx
In 1993, the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) published an article by Arthur Kellerman and colleagues, Gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in the home, which presented the results of research funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The study found that keeping a gun in the home was strongly and independently associated with an increased risk of homicide. The article concluded that rather than confer protection, guns kept in the home are associated with an increase in the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance. Kellerman was affiliated at the time with the department of internal medicine at the University of Tennessee. He went on to positions at Emory University, and he currently holds the Paul ONeill Alcoa Chair in Policy Analysis at the RAND Corporation.
The 1993 NEJM article received considerable media attention, and the National Rifle Association (NRA) responded by campaigning for the elimination of the center that had funded the study, the CDCs National Center for Injury Prevention. The center itself survived, but Congress included language in the 1996 Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Bill (PDF, 2.4MB) for Fiscal Year 1997 that none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may be used to advocate or promote gun control. Referred to as the Dickey amendment after its author, former U.S. House Representative Jay Dickey (R-AR), this language did not explicitly ban research on gun violence. However, Congress also took $2.6 million from the CDCs budget the amount the CDC had invested in firearm injury research the previous year and earmarked the funds for prevention of traumatic brain injury. Dr. Kellerman stated in a December 2012 article in the Journal of the American Medical Association, Precisely what was or was not permitted under the clause was unclear. But no federal employee was willing to risk his or her career or the agency's funding to find out. Extramural support for firearm injury prevention research quickly dried up.
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The new gun safety study that gun nuts don’t want you to hear about [View all]
SecularMotion
Jun 2015
OP
But the point is that owning and operating these are not a Contitutionally protected right,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#85
A cetificate is not a license, it's just a piece of paper saying you passed a safety course.
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#114
Hrm...I can't seem to find where the First Amendment only applies to individuals
jeff47
Jun 2015
#115
The 1A is a restriction on govt to restrict free speech, which would apply to individuals and groups
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#118
And Duck Hunter is arguing the opposite. Might wanna take that up with him. (nt)
jeff47
Jun 2015
#121
You mean a perfect analog for getting a DUI and having your license taken away?
jeff47
Jun 2015
#158
What you fail to realize is that none of those are Constitutionally protected rights.
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#73
Why do I have to register to vote and prove my ID to exercise a Constitutional right?
csziggy
Jun 2015
#129
I'm opposed to these restrictions on voting, they're designed to restrict the poor, minorities,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#135
The problem is, gun control is like climate change in that opponents aren't basing their opinions
DanTex
Jun 2015
#3
No one has "the right to be safe", they don't even have the right to police protection:
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#187
If you want to argue "legal language" then take it up with the legal scholars...
Sancho
Jun 2015
#190
The social science research (like the Connecticut study) shows some of these work...
Sancho
Jun 2015
#197
This reads like the same bill of goods used to sell the Patriot Act. Sorry, no can do
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#199
"I suppose the license could also screen to see if you were on a terrorist watch list."
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#202
" You can prevent shooting by making easy access to guns harder for dangerous people."
beevul
Jun 2015
#212
To start with, fund the ATF properly and get them prosecuting illegal buyers
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#201
"The license would make it more (difficult) to possess guns." FTFY
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#233
The Boulware attack on Dallas police might be the poster child for any/some gun
Dustlawyer
Jun 2015
#6
Yes, part of being a gun owner is being responsible, especially around children.
SheilaT
Jun 2015
#214
"we need to be licensed to drive cars, their are sanctions if we do so badly"
Duckhunter935
Jun 2015
#37
Kudos to CT and other states who pass meaningful gun control laws.
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#15
At the time of my posting this, it says there are 17 replies. I see only 6. That means
valerief
Jun 2015
#19
We need more research that identifies the risks to self and others associated with gun ownership or
etherealtruth
Jun 2015
#31
It says 39 replies. I see only 13. That means most of the posters to this thread I have
valerief
Jun 2015
#41
Not really into baseball. Basketball, soccer, tennis, are my favorite sports to watch.
DanTex
Jun 2015
#58
You can't talk sense to people who need a gun in their pants to walk down the street, or a closet
Hoyt
Jun 2015
#157
Guns have nuts?? I never noticed any on mine! I've had some Walnut stocks/grips before though...
Ghost in the Machine
Jun 2015
#204
Yeah, and we've had more than a few stolen from POLICE CARS around here the past few years...
Ghost in the Machine
Jun 2015
#229
Some people DO *need* guns to live in our society. People like me, who HUNT to supplement the
Ghost in the Machine
Jun 2015
#231