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BumRushDaShow

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31. However unless some dark horse GOP candidate comes to the fore
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jun 2015

SOME Democrat will hopefully win the general. It's difficult to get 3 terms of one party post-FDR with the term limits imposed in the Constitution by amendment (although Reagan/Bush) achieved it. But it's something that needs to be fought for.

What Bernie has going for him is not unlike what Elizabeth Warren had going for her - he addresses the populace from the perspective of pocketbook issues and income fairness. Particularly in an era when the federal minimum wage hasn't been successfully addressed since 2007 and notably where the last increase of it went into effect in 2009... and the disparity between income brackets that has reached and even exceeded levels not seen since the late-'20s. He has experience in both chambers of Congress, which is important when attempting to move legislation through. He was also born and raised in an urban area and has lived in a mostly rural state.

What Hillary has going for her is the women's vote, which is very strong and will be moreso this time around because of the dynamics of the 2008 primary. She also has a wide-ranging knowledge of both the Executive and Legislative branches through election or appointment (and having been a First Lady in the White House), and has very extensive foreign policy experience. She is a Midwesterner with a long history in the deep south as a First Lady to then-Governor Clinton, but also in the Northeast as a Senator and through family ties. She has a law background (that people forget about) and although not practicing, I expect like Michelle Obama, one does not forget all that knowledge.

What O'Malley has going for him is the "outsider" perspective as a former mayor and governor. But then he also has an "insider" perspective coming from a state that has a large federal population and part of the "beltway" running through his state. MD is also a state that is (theoretically) both "the south" (below the Mason-Dixon Line) and "borderline north" (with a large transplant population from above that line). And because of the federal presence, he has also dealt with a large immigrant population. He was born and raised in an urban area (Washington, D.C.) and is from the "Obama generation" (which is mine too - tail-end boomers). Like Hillary, he is also a lawyer by education, which does help navigate legalese in legislation.

But all 3 will need to look at this nation's diversity as well as it's "regional issues", and then find a platform that covers "all of America" but also builds speeches tailored at specific regions that address their concerns when visiting that region. E.g., the water issue in the west, the environmental issues caused by coal ash or rail tanker spills in the south, the road and bridge infrastructure in the Midwest and Northeast, and the land rights and pipelines in the mountain west.

There are issues that impact Native Americans that don't impact me but are real issues to them. There are issues that impact Hispanics or Asians that often overlap with issues that my demographic has, but they have language and citizenship-discrimination issues that do not impact me but do impact them. There are issues of equality when it comes to gender, gender-identity, and even religion or choice of no religion (and I don't mean the RW nut interpretations of such). There are issues impacting those with disabilities where despite the passage of the ADA and amendments to it, many facilities are still not accessible - and this is critical for many of our Vets who are coming back into the population with missing limbs and prosthetics.

Each of these is a subset of the Democratic "base" and although the loudest push would be those issues that impact "everyone", these other issues cannot be shunted aside and marginalized. That will only guarantee a win for the GOP due to lack of Democratic turnout if they feel marginalized.

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The problem is DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #1
"people would rather have someone strong and wrong than light and right." snagglepuss Jun 2015 #6
KnR. It's gone nuts at DU. Thanks for trying to bring some reason into the discussion.... Hekate Jun 2015 #2
Most of the Bernie supporters I've met in this forum Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #3
+1 Scuba Jun 2015 #7
+1. and to the LP, I would say silvershadow Jun 2015 #11
Right there is a MAJOR problem with the DU: Indydem Jun 2015 #20
Kennedy had entered the primary in March 1968 Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #24
I recall 1968 quite well myself, SheilaT Jun 2015 #27
Did Humphrey or McCarthy ever give a straight-from-the-heart speech like this? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #43
What's that got to do with SheilaT Jun 2015 #49
It's got to do with the post I replied to Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #50
RFK had just won the California primary. Octafish Jun 2015 #32
My friends and I worked for Eugene McCarthy, who entered the race FIRST. Hekate Jun 2015 #33
You are right that not everybody loved RFK, but Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #37
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jun 2015 #38
Disagree. They are mostly anti-Hillary treestar Jun 2015 #53
That's what you want to think Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #54
Congress would be your best chance to effect it treestar Jun 2015 #56
Mother of Four, I truly believe that you are a mother of four. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #4
why did you ban me from the bernie group ? stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #5
I totally believe in supporting one's one BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #8
I used to post against anyone who would not vote D in the general election. I got slammed jwirr Jun 2015 #35
They have their heads BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #41
Back then the arguement was that to vote for less than a perfect candidate is wrong. But to me jwirr Jun 2015 #47
Too true. Good guideline! BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #51
Many of the Hillary supporters from 2008 madokie Jun 2015 #9
You haven't seen the ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #14
NO I haven't madokie Jun 2015 #15
Okay ... But that is a direct quote ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #16
Again NO madokie Jun 2015 #17
Okay. I guess we see, and don't see, what we want/don't want to see. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #21
What. ever. madokie Jun 2015 #22
And get sent to the corner for calling out a DUer? No thanky. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #23
That was easy madokie Jun 2015 #25
Bunk? ... How about entering ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #26
Interestingly enough, there was a poll to this effect BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #28
I voted in that madokie Jun 2015 #30
However unless some dark horse GOP candidate comes to the fore BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #31
Go ahead andut your head in the sand.... Adrahil Jun 2015 #52
It happens very often treestar Jun 2015 #57
See #46 treestar Jun 2015 #58
It's (the lesser of 2 evils meme) been trickling on in GD relentlessly for ages. Unfortunately... Hekate Jun 2015 #34
I will likely vote Bernie in primary, and I will note vote for Hillary. bigwillq Jun 2015 #46
I"m kinda in that boat too madokie Jun 2015 #48
I agree and appreciate your efforts to gain some civility here. brer cat Jun 2015 #10
Can I steal those words of yours madokie Jun 2015 #18
Yep. nt brer cat Jun 2015 #29
Thanks, MoF... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #12
When Hillary lost I was upset. But not enough to turn my back on the Democratic nominee. Laser102 Jun 2015 #13
We are blessed with excellent choices. sofa king Jun 2015 #19
it doesn't really take me that much fanaticism to just vote hfojvt Jun 2015 #36
Great post and I have a proposal... goldent Jun 2015 #39
Thank you for all the responses - Mother Of Four Jun 2015 #40
I don't mind the fighting back and forth, it's when one side uses Right-Wing propaganda B Calm Jun 2015 #42
I agree...debating issues is one thing, bashing is another to me. Sancho Jun 2015 #44
I'm wishy-washy when it comes politicians JonLP24 Jun 2015 #45
This is what democracy is supposed to look like... Orsino Jun 2015 #55
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