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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton's Hair [View all]JonLP24
(29,934 posts)or where most of these quotes from late 40s to early 60s but remember reading when Truman proposed the civil rights legislation both JFK sand LBJ were against it (though JFK changed his mind before he did where LBJ opposed every legislation until he was his VP) but LBJ was very vocal in his opposition against it -- don't know if this was Senate or House floor (can't remember but he was the D party leader) or the press or in front of a crowd people. To me its just quotes but I associated this the claim from somebody somewhere he was known for great speeches or something like knowing what to say, at the right moments, exploiting an opportunity to use rhetoric, whatever necessary to advance himself.
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In the 1948 elections, Johnson again ran for the Senate and won in a highly controversial result. In a three-way Democratic Party primary Johnson faced a well-known former governor, Coke Stevenson, and a third candidate. Johnson drew crowds to fairgrounds with his rented helicopter dubbed "The Johnson City Windmill". He raised money to flood the state with campaign circulars and won over conservatives by voting for the Taft-Hartley act (curbing union power) as well as by criticizing unions. Stevenson came in first but lacked a majority, so a runoff was held; Johnson campaigned even harder, while Stevenson's efforts slumped.
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Johnson was appointed to the Senate Armed Services Committee, and later in 1950, he helped create the Preparedness Investigating Subcommittee. Johnson became its chairman and conducted investigations of defense costs and efficiency. These investigations revealed old investigations and demanded actions that were already being taken in part by the Truman Administration, although it can be said that the committee's investigations reinforced the need for changes. Johnson's brilliant handling of the press, the efficiency with which his committee issued new reports, and the fact that he ensured every report was endorsed unanimously by the committee all brought him headlines and national attention. Johnson used his political influence in the Senate to receive broadcast licenses from the Federal Communications Commission in his wife's name.[30][3
Central to Johnson's control was "The Treatment",[35] described by two journalists:
The Treatment could last ten minutes or four hours. It came, enveloping its target, at the Johnson Ranch swimming pool, in one of Johnson's offices, in the Senate cloakroom, on the floor of the Senate itself wherever Johnson might find a fellow Senator within his reach.
Its tone could be supplication, accusation, cajolery, exuberance, scorn, tears, complaint, and the hint of threat. It was all of these together. It ran the gamut of human emotions. Its velocity was breathtaking, and it was all in one direction. Interjections from the target were rare. Johnson anticipated them before they could be spoken. He moved in close, his face a scant millimeter from his target, his eyes widening and narrowing, his eyebrows rising and falling. From his pockets poured clippings, memos, statistics. Mimicry, humor, and the genius of analogy made The Treatment an almost hypnotic experience and rendered the target stunned and helpless.[36]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson
This was the kind of thing I meant though not sure where I read he was known or something about above average speeches. Personally, I can't remember more hearing more than a clip of him speaking to the TV from the Office making a statement on Vietnam on pieces covering the era.
I'll have to look more in Hillary Clinton's Senate career. The only things I remember was the Iraq war though there wasn't a huge focus on her at-the-time. I mostly remember Byrd, Daschle, I'm not sure what else but don't remember it being notable part of the dialogue though there weren't any controversies that brought attention to the ones I remember well. The other thing I remember from her Senate career is Grand Theft Auto so I'll have to check it out.
LBJ I view him as unconcerned on issues or convictions, just took what positions that were beneficial to take at the times he took them. Toward the end of his administration it was revealed he had COINTELPRO type of programs on lefty groups not to mention foreign policy issues you point but I respect his political skill though don't know if he was genuine as he came across as he seemed to use what works at the moment like pushing gun control after 3 notable assassinations as I'm sure there was rise in demand for it from the elctorate "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost middle America"